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I still don't understand what criteria will be used to select the AC. The voting is ongoing, people are earning points, but what happens next?
Next, the AC members must be approved so that the AC can function. Pit has already written about it, and I have also posted a few times. The forum, as it was, say, a year and a half ago, and as it is now, is completely different: more players, the level of tournaments has increased. Are the players satisfied with the current situation? Judging by how this topic has grown and the voting has gone, no.
The AC can and should resolve issues. 1. Speed up the completion of all ongoing tournaments. 2. Approve priority, main tournaments, on which concentrated efforts will be focused. For example, a well-organized individual tournament, as large as possible, involving the best organizers, promoting all the best players, and posting an announcement on the website. Let's say a tournament called "HeroesWorld Forum Championship," because we haven't had a tournament since Adelaide where all the best players participated. Of course, we will invite guests. What's wrong with determining the forum champion and rewarding them? We have grown out of our infancy. 3. Hold a clan war. Clans are the keepers of the forum's traditions; half of the players are in clans. Clans like "Man to Man," "Order of the Phoenix," "Many in One," "Witches," "Riders of the Apocalypse," and SNC are successfully participating in clan wars, and there is an opportunity to further increase clan representation. Even one new clan is a victory. This is a unique online tournament that other forums don't have. Does the clan war deserve to become a notable event on our forum? Absolutely, yes. There are probably other interesting tournament projects in the works, and there's nothing wrong with them being organized and the organizers receiving effective support. 4. And resolving disputes. I'm tired of this arguing, who shouts louder and who has more friends. There will be a body that makes decisions.
2. How many people should be in the AC? For example, I want 5, many want 7. Will the number of people in the AC be determined by a simple majority? For example, 20 people voted for a 7-member AC, and 10 people voted for a 5-member AC, so there will be 7. Am I understanding this correctly? 3. How will "against" votes be taken into account? For example, one candidate has 7 votes against him and 18 for him out of 25 votes. The second candidate has 12 "for" and no votes against. Who is more preferable? In my opinion, 12-0 is more preferable than 18-7, because the one with many "against" votes is not respected by a sufficient number of people. I repeat, IMHO. 4. I initially thought that I should vote for someone from the 7 initial candidates. Can I change my mind now? Sorry if the answers were here before, I think I scrolled through everything, but I might have missed a lot.
Friends, there is a term - "to resolve the issue." When the moment comes when the mood is not in your favor and a decision that you don't like will be made, then quite legitimate actions begin, leading to inaction, to torpedoing the problem. For example, so that I can write about the AC. 1. Why are there 120 players, but only 30-something voted, where is the legitimacy, a clear and blatant arbitrariness? 2. Why is Lebron on the list? He lives on the Portal; how will he protect us if there is a conflict with the Portal? 3. So, is it 5 or 7 people who are chosen? WHERE IS IT CLEARLY WRITTEN THAT IT'S 7, and not 5? This is very important, that it is exactly 7, and not 5, because (then I give effective arguments, while remembering Horatio, Churchill, the world crisis, and my grandfather - a war hero). 4. Why did this list appear, where did the names come from...?
In general, with due diligence, the AC can be dismantled. Cancel the vote and start a new one, although no, first set deadlines when everyone can think about it and submit an application, create a committee to review applications, reject a couple along the way, arguing, then put it to a vote, say in a month... But who will vote? The issue is interesting to people as long as it is hot, as long as people, when they come home from work, immediately go to the topic about the AC. In a month, or even in a week, the interest will disappear, and no one will need any AC vote. Even if they politely vote at the request of the organizers, there will be no respect for this body, why respect clowns?
Therefore, I will say directly, the issue arose spontaneously, while it is hot, it needs to be brought to a conclusion. Approve the AC, give it powers, and let it work. Re-elections in six months. It is impossible to give less time; the guys simply won't have time to do anything; they are the first team; they need to figure out what to do and where to start.
In six months - re-elections, a month before the re-elections, you can announce the start of accepting applications for the second council and hold a full, completely legitimate vote there.
Alternative 1. Cancel everything and restart the slow, pseudo-peaceful life on the forum. There are no new ideas; a new AC, with mass involvement of players, is impossible - since Pit didn't succeed. In general, neither fish nor meat, there are no ideas, nothing needs to be changed, this is the first stage of degradation; I have already experienced this on Wings and on the League.
Alternative 2. AC War. I thought for a moment, what would I do if I wanted to fight, for various reasons. Probably, I would identify strong personalities who were not included or did not support the idea of the AC. Dirty_Player, a person who has done a lot for the forum, should definitely be told that the AC includes personalities who have done much less than him for the forum. Is this true? Yes. Look for invisible, a person with a conscience, direct, emotional, freedom-loving. Ask if he wants to return to the forum in 1937, otherwise, what is the AC for? Talk to Wicc. He is also a freedom-loving person; ask if he needs an AC. He wrote that not really. Look for weaknesses in the AC, be sure to remind about Alex R, a person who is also direct, tells the truth, is reckless, and is probably not liked by everyone. Go through the players; I would recruit about 5 people. Involve new players, tell them that they will be oppressed. Create a broad coalition. Then I would smile broadly. You can fight successfully and productively.
But there is only one question. Would we come to such a forum where there are wars and squabbles, undercurrents? At one time, I asked old and new players of the forum - Eugene, Alex R, vbn, Tanya, Decontaminator, Dreamcatcher, Mizrael, Scorp, Dirty, Pit, Javdet, and everyone else? I think not, it's not for us. Those who want to fight should go with their ideas somewhere else; there are plenty of places.
I urge all players who love our (or even not our own, but just like it) resource to unite, stop the squabbles, and calmly discuss how to get out of the crisis. My proposals. 1. Include Dirty_Player; he is leading in the additional list. Definitely, such a person should be in the AC. Then the degree of discontent will decrease; he is an obvious leader in the additional list and has support, as he received 11 votes. What will happen if there is a tie in the votes in the AC with 8 participants, 4-4? This is a very rare case, hardly. It is difficult to imagine that the AC members will deliberately play with votes; they are not children; we will re-elect them. 2. Get a promise from Dirty_Player and Alex R that, being decent people, they will rise above personal dislike and work for the good of the forum.
Sorry for such a post; usually, such things are written in private messages; it's just somehow unpleasant to read the squabbles on our forum.
Enter Dirty_Player, he is leading in the additional list.
Yes, that's fair. I ask everyone who is interested to "re-vote". Remember that you can vote both FOR and AGAINST. I suggest extending the voting period by 2 days. I will inform those who voted for me via ICQ about this change.
Thanks, Nagan, for not writing in private... if someone else had written it, they wouldn't have listened as much... You don't need to take my words literally; my personal dislike of Dirty_Player is limited only to the absence of any communication with him. I voted “for” his candidacy in the AK because I believe he can analyze any game from saves quite well (because first and foremost, he is a very good offline player), and everything else doesn’t matter here.KobRa_RR
1). Alex_R - (I don't like people who want to win at all costs)
Could you elaborate on this line? It's easy to shout something without explanation under the guise of noise. I can't even imagine what kind of behavior I supposedly demonstrated, since we played only once. I don't think it was because of the report that you refuted in the unified ranking, explaining that we didn't agree to post the game from the team tournament on the rating. If tournament games aren't included there, then what will the rating reflect, and why is it needed?
In general, I'm tired of all these squabbles; I don't feel like doing or writing anything other than reports for now... I am withdrawing my candidacy for the AK indefinitely, but not only because of the negativity, but primarily for another reason: I am submitting the first project for consideration by the AK, which I authored myself, so it wouldn't be entirely appropriate for me to be part of the commission. You can view the project in "the old online thread" At the same time, let's see how the commission copes and how the mood vectors of the overall forum community and individual "interest groups" will change. And if something happens, how moderation and administration will work.
The words "commission" and "committee" make me uneasy. Usually, this means there is a fact of mutual cover-up, and no one is responsible for anything. And it also has a very bureaucratic feel... it's almost sickening. I suggest changing at least the name, because I have no doubt that in our heroic world, people will always be able to make the right decision. In general, for now, I only disagree with the name, and we'll take a break from the regulations for now). As an option, I don't know... all the names seem too cliché - not a magistrate, not a magistrate... Council of Jedi - not relevant and even worse...)) We need to come up with something.
So far, 35 people have voted: bRitvo4kA, Pit for LM, He3Hauka, Dirty_Player, Дубровин Павел, Sem 56, SpiriTT, <аноним1>, Hermit, еwgeniy, LeBron, OUTLAW, Деконтаминатор, Psyche_7, КостяN, Alex_R, redwhait, Captain, Nagan-4, vbn, Kash, Ta Kotoraya..., Mizrael, Wlk777, Oelm, Wicc, RAPER, invisible, Neoandy, Alone, Javdet, scorp, Aldegir, KobRa_RR, Revan (vote not yet counted). Dear Revan, I don't play on the rating much now, so I don't know all the players. Please provide a link to any of your HOMM3 game reports so that your vote carries weight (I couldn't quite wade through the den of debauchery in your messages and I didn't find you in the rating; maybe I wasn't looking carefully, apologies). From the voting rules:Pit for LM
1. Anyone can vote. But only votes from registered HeroesWorld users who are also HOMM3 online players will be counted. I.e., the voter must have at least one played game with a report on HeroesWorld.
Added later: Dear Revan has clarified the situation with his nickname, and his vote will be counted in the next tally.
Preliminary results (first number - FOR, second - AGAINST): 1. Alex_R - 20-9 2. Mizrael - 20-0 3. LeBron - 22-3 4. Pit for LM - 32-0 5. scorp - 22-1 6. vbn - 28-0 7. Дубровин Павел - 25-2
For the "additional list": Dirty_Player - +15, Nagan-4 - +7, invisible - +7-1, Javdet - +5. I remind you that the voting period has been extended by 2 days. You can "supplement your vote" for the additional candidate Dirty_Player, who was added to the list yesterday. You can also make corrections to your vote. It is these changes of opinion that have caused some discrepancies in today's and yesterday's results.
During the secret ballot, the reasons for voting AGAINST are sometimes explained to me. For example, some don't like that a candidate for the AC plays poker. Several votes against Alex_R were an obvious result of recent discussions. Let's stop provoking each other into squabbles! It seemed like a good cause was conceived. We should see it through to the end... Alex_R
I am withdrawing my candidacy for the AC for an indefinite period
I understand such a reaction, but I cannot accept it. I know that this candidate will work. It is not at all necessary for him to handle contentious situations in matters where his bias and personal relationships might come into play. Let's remember that Alex_R is not the only one being elected to the AC... And we won't find a more suitable candidate for the role of Prosecutor in handling the most serious cases of cheating
The words "commission" and "committee" make me very uneasy. Usually, this means that there is a fact of mutual cover-up, and no one is responsible for anything. And it also has a very bureaucratic feel... it's almost sickening. I suggest changing at least the name, because I have no doubt that in our heroic world, people will always be able to make the right decision. In general, for now, I only disagree with the name, and we'll take a break from the regulations for now). As an option, I don't know... all the names are somehow overused - magistrate or not a magistrate... Council of Jedi - not on topic and even worse...)) We need to come up with something.
The Holy Inquisition :)
Added 2 minutes ago Pit for LM
But for the role of Prosecutor in investigating the most serious cases of cheating, we won't find a more suitable candidate.
There is no dispute about the Prosecutor or Advocate. The qualities are quite appropriate. The main thing is not to put him in the role of Judge.
There's no arguing about the Prosecutor or Lawyer – their qualities are quite fitting. The main thing is that they shouldn't be in the role of Judge.
+100. We need to remember that the Arbitration Committee (or whatever it will be called) will likely be deciding the fates of forum members – and that's a serious matter. Therefore, its members should be objective, impartial, and professional. In my opinion, it's very important that Nagan-4, given his profession in real life (a lawyer), is included in the committee. It's crucial to clearly understand what "following the letter of the law" means. It's one thing when a decision has to be made against a newcomer, for example, as in the recent case. And it's quite another if a long-time forum member, with whom you have a friendly relationship, comes under suspicion – in the legal field, in such cases, judges are obliged to recuse themselves, and the defendant must request recusal (if the relationship is personally unfriendly, etc.), justifying it (Pete, this point should be clarified – I think we won't be able to avoid it). In legal practice, such recusals are usually considered by the chairman of the relevant or higher court. This is all ideal, but our possibilities are limited, so on the one hand, I would recommend Alex for the "prosecution department," where they should bring the maximum charges to ensure nothing is overlooked, and the court will separate the wheat from the chaff and make a balanced and wise decision. But on the other hand, there are no resources for this (since there will indeed be more generals than soldiers), so considering the collegial nature (5-7 members) of the Arbitration Committee, I don't think having a "prosecutor" in it will be critical. Don't forget about the right to defense either. The accused must have the right to provide explanations on all points of the accusation, and perhaps even raise a specific issue for discussion in some cases – in general, the rights need to be defined.
And probably, something like an oath of the Arbitration Committee itself is necessary, and there should be the strictest measures for violating it, up to and including a ban :smile42:. And perhaps most importantly: establish that the Arbitration Committee's decision can be appealed in certain cases (for example, a ban for cheating, if the accused disagrees – and there can be judicial errors) through a "referendum." The option of a jury trial is also interesting (from a professional point of view, it's the best model for the forum), where the Arbitration Committee is the jury, whose composition is elected by the forum based on the personal qualities of the participants, but the final decision should still be made by professionals (a judicial panel, say, of 3 people). So that the Arbitration Committee doesn't end up like in the beginning of Mikhalkov's film – 12 Angry Men – where everyone quickly agreed with the arguments of the "prosecutor."
I've outlined my thoughts, and you can extract the rational ideas for yourselves. And there should be no rush in such an important matter – its relevance will not fade if the problem is truly pressing, and not just one of the new TOP topics that will be replaced by another in a week. At least think, search, and discuss until the end of May – give birth to the truth.
In my opinion, it is very important that Nagan-4, due to his profession (lawyer), be included in the team. It is necessary to clearly understand what "following the letter of the law" means.
Colleague, you are clearly exaggerating my capabilities.
And perhaps the most important thing: to establish that the AK's decision in certain cases (for example, a ban for cheating, in case of disagreement from the accused - and there are also judicial errors) could be appealed in a "referendum".
I don't know, there are about 127 of us players, but how many are active? Approximately the same as those who voted, i.e., at most about forty. Even if everyone votes unanimously, that's 30 percent, formally 50% + 1 vote is needed, which is 64 people. No, we won't get that many. Let the AK decide, it's faster.
Also, the option of a jury trial (from a professional point of view, the best model for the forum) is interesting, where the AK is the jury, the composition of which is elected by the forum based on the personal qualities of the participants, and the final decision should still be made by professionals (a judicial panel, say, of 3 people). So that there is no AK like in the beginning of Mikhalkov's film - 12 (twelve), when everyone quickly agreed with the arguments of the "prosecutor".
Oh, it seems clear about the AK, they are chosen, they decide the issue, and that's the end of it. If it's different, there is a risk that we will drown in committees and subcommittees that will have to monitor each other. In my opinion, only the AK needs to be created, as one structure is enough for us. If they need help, there are Ta Kotoraya..., Javdet, ewgeniy, Nagan-4, etc. who can be called in for help. And that's enough, in my opinion.
At least until the end of May, think, search, discuss - give birth to the truth.
Yes, it's already the end of May. I hope that by June: 1. The players' council will urge the organizers to speed up the deadlines for the end of the Tournaments. 2. It will begin to develop a schedule of Tournaments for the rest of the year. 3. It will help me in recruiting a team for the educational project "Rookie Course", to attract new players. 4. It will conduct explanatory work on the forum that it is time for fair play online.
One of the most respected players in the Heroes world, Antal from St. Petersburg, said a very good phrase, literally: "No one has yet come up with another way to catch cheaters with saves. Checking with saves is quite sufficient and correct. I don't even think that we need to come up with anything else." I agree with that.
Already voted for Dirty Player and voting again!!! (Pete, pay closer attention to the posts :smile12: )
Dirty Player already has one plus from you. Do you think another one is needed?:D I checked again - I found a mistake:( I counted Scorp's vote for himself. I apologize. 5. scorp - 21-1 I just don't include in the preliminary voting results those who voted for themselves 1-2 times. If there is interest, I have nothing to hide. Ta Kotoraya... - +4-4 Loi - +2 ewgeniy - +2 Oelm - +1 Dreamcatcher - +3 Wicc - +1 Uran - +1
I don't know many people on the forum well enough to vote objectively, but I will: Alex_R - for Pit for LM - for vbn - for Dubrovin Pavel - for
to Alex_R, I'm sorry that some people misunderstood you. I believe that there should be a place in the AK for both Kilgor's fury and Phoenix's sunny warmth.
Voting continues until 24 hours on May 26, 2009. However, activity has noticeably dropped. Almost everyone who was interested has already voted. I am expecting a few more opinions. Therefore, I will not be updating the lists today or tomorrow. On Wednesday, I will finalize the results.
There is time to move forward. I have reread everything again. If I missed something, please don't be angry—forgive me, correct me, supplement, and discuss.
I found questions that I didn't answer. Alex_R
it is unclear to me why among those who voted there are people who aren't even registered on the ХВ forum.
It seems everyone is registered. If you mean <аноним1>, I can guarantee that he is a respected user of ХВ and a player of HOMM3 online. He voted secretly and requested that I not write his nickname on the forum.Alex_R
how "local" should a candidate for membership in the АК be... and to what extent should the votes of players who do not consider ХВ their "home resource" be taken into account
The answer is in the voting rules:Pit for LM
I don't know how to divide people into "ours" and "others" based on resource affiliation, nor will I.
I will also not develop criteria for such a division. Nor do I intend to introduce correction coefficients for the votes. Regarding candidates: I believe that the respect and trust of the forum are paramount when voting.
I have systematized the proposals and questions that it is time to start solving.
Tournament Committee (ТК)
- organizational commission (ОК): issues of planning, organization, and conducting tournaments, HOMM3 history. ewgeniy, Ta Kotoraya..., vbn, Nagan-4, Javdet, Dirty_Player, RAPER.
- communication commission (КК): issues of communication and coordination with the administration - vbn, ewgeniy, Ta Kotoraya...; with friendly resources - Neoandy (HeroesPortal), Wicc (heroes.by); inter-portal tournaments - Nagan-4.
- noob commission (НК) - working with beginners ewgeniy, КостяN, Kash, SEM_56.
- appeals commission (АК): resolution of disputed situations, fighting unfair play, monitoring compliance with tournament rules and deadlines, and player codes of conduct. Composition is currently being formed. Candidates: Alex_R, Dirty_Player, Mizrael, LeBron, Pit for LM, scorp, vbn, Дубровин Павел.
Question 1. The name. Please speak up more actively. Otherwise, I will leave these names; they suit me and it seems clear who does what, which is the main criterion for me. By the way, I think it would be good if the comrades included in each commission came up with their own names.
Proposals were made: Instead of ТК - HOMM3 Players Council, magistrate, Jedi Council... Instead of АК - Expert Council, Holy Inquisition, НКЧД...
Question 2.To ewgeniy. It is no secret that navigating such a large forum can be quite difficult. I have a bookmark for the Heroes 3 Tournaments - ONLINE. I rarely visit other sections. I would like the Tournament Committee's information to be accessible and easier to find, rather than everything being thrown into one pile.
Here is our thread: HeroesWorld Forum > All about Heroes 3 - Heroes of Might and Magic 3 - Information, Discussions, Tournaments, Download -> Heroes 3 Tournament - Heroes 3 Tournaments - ONLINE
and then there are three sections: Online tournament "Seasons of year" - "Времена года" History of ONLINE Heroes 3 tournaments on HW Old threads
and below that, the threads of the Heroes 3 Tournament - Heroes 3 Tournaments - ONLINE section
Is it possible to create another section (where "Seasons of year" is): "Tournament Committee" with threads for each commission (each commission would create these threads as needed)? We just need to decide on a general name... Now that we are finishing the general rules and elections, it's time to get to work.
Questions and tasks for the Organizational Commission (ОК).
Proposals from Nagan-4: 1. Develop a tournament schedule for the rest of the year - suggest approximate dates, themes, regulations... 2. Nagan-4
systematization of tournaments. We need a main tournament that would be the forum's signature label, one that would be extremely honorable to win...
3. Determine official, priority, and main tournaments Nagan-4
Approve them in our gaming environment and coordinate their status with the administration. Yes, so that announcements for this tournament, results of preliminary stages, and finals are on the First page of the HeroesWorld site. This will be requested not by one organizer, but by an entire gaming community... Let's say the "HeroesWorld Forum Championship" tournament
4.Nagan-4
Conducting a clan war.
There is already an Organizer for this. In a couple of days, the first АК will be formed; we are always happy to help respected Ta Kotoraya... with judging. I looked at the composition of the АК - I am the only one who doesn't belong to any clan :smile44: (maybe create a "Non-Aligned" clan?). That would be a reason to get acquainted;). 5. Organization of a historical section. ProjectNagan-4
...there will be a historical one, interviews with the most wonderful people of the heroes' world; they will remember old battles, tell their view on past events and current hero life, imho it will be interesting.
6. By the way, before the New Year, vbn conducted a very beautiful contest for the best report. I would also like to make this traditional and announce it in advance so that those interested can think about their participation throughout the year under inspiration.
These questions are for everyone, but I ask respected Dirty_Player to be active.
6. Rules for awarding points for tournaments into the rating - this is for respected vbn. (so there are no disputes about whether to include a report in the rating, how much, for whom...)
7. Avern
I visited a company today that does advertising and also makes various business cards, pennants, badges, and cups.... I would order them and hand them over to the administration
How does the ОК feel about this proposal? I spoke with RAPER, he is ready to help as much as possible (he's currently doing his diploma).
Questions and tasks for the Communication Commission (КК)
1. Organization and conduct of Inter-Portal Tournaments (МП). Development of rules. This hasn't even been started yet.Nagan-4
I can help in the development. I insist on a point about literal interpretation of the rules: break them - get zero.
2. From the Rules under discussion: "To protect other forum users (both our NMM3 online players and users of other site sections) from dishonest players, the following types of punishment are applied: ..... ban, highlighting the nickname of a dishonest player in another color, creating an indelible signature under this user's messages on the forum..." To vbn, ewgeniy, Ta Kotoraya... - please find out from the administration what measures we can apply.
3. To Wicc, He3Hauka and Neoandy. Can you inform our ОК and Nagan-4 about the plans of friendly resources regarding upcoming МП?
4. Qwerty
By the way, since we are talking about the League ... There is a lot that I could say on this matter with arguments, links, and perhaps screenshots. Not for now.
Mysterious. People didn't understand and are asking me in private what it means. I ask respected Qwerty to convey his thoughts to the masses. Qwerty
If we are talking about connections with friendly resources, then we must include our dear friends from the League!, because the League is our friend! PS. By the way, Dust is a highly competent representative of the heroes' League, enjoying deserved authority and respect on leading sites, including ours.
The friendliness and readiness to develop ties with HeroesPortal and heroes.by resources are confirmed by past and current Inter-Portal tournaments and the activity of players from there on our forum. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the League, I am not registered there, and I have a poor idea of what is being discussed. Therefore, I haven't included the League and Dust in the КК yet. I would like to see respected Dust in our thread with concrete proposals for friendship and cooperation. I think it will be mutually beneficial. And I have no right to include a person in the composition of the КК without their consent.
Questions and tasks for the Noob Commission (НК).
1. Nagan-4
I am now preparing a project that revives the "Young Fighter's Course" from five years ago on a much larger scale, working with simple hero amateurs and attracting them to our ranks; the help of the new council will be very necessary.
I don't know what this is about, but I am sure it is interesting and necessary. As I understand it, Nagan needsNagan-4
...help in assembling a team for the educational project "Young Fighter's Course", for attracting new players...
2. I suggest thinking through a list of recommendations for beginners and placing it on the forum (once Zhenya answers my question regarding the section for the Tournament Committee (once we decide on the name). Then it can be placed there, and questions from beginners can be answered there.
3. In my view, game culture is very important. And first and foremost, this concerns the ability to make daily saves. This needs to be conveyed to beginners. A thread for analyzing interesting saves could also be organized, inviting strong players for analysis. Let's also not forget that without saves, it is impossible to resolve a disputed game situation.
4.Avern
Maybe create a tournament for beginners to boost the forum? .... I don't offer myself as a judge; my experience here is definitely zero. Maybe Pit for LM can help me.
I spoke with respected Avern. He has many ideas, but he has neither authority on the forum nor experience. I ask the НК to contact him, think about such a tournament, and come forward with proposals to the ОК and the forum. Our forum members are asking many questions here: - criteria for defining a "beginner"; - Dirty_Player
A beginners' tournament has one serious downside: Beginners have a tendency to disappear without a trace...
This isn't even a downside; it's the scourge of most of our tournaments... - judging. Pit for LM can help, and no one from the currently elected АК will refuse. - goalsAvern
after all, the goal of the tournament is: to introduce the beginner to the forum and community, give an idea of how to agree on a meeting, how to submit a report, mark races, how to behave with opponents and colleagues.
I disagree here - one should enter a tournament already possessing these elementary skills; otherwise, the tournament simply won't happen... - prizesAvern
give a special prize to players who played the longest and most grueling game of the season
I also disagree - this is an encouragement of inability to play, since one of the tasks for a good player in a game is as rapid development as possible (we read in reports of strong players - made it so as not to lose pace...) I can suggest another "prize" for the winner of such a tournament - several games with players from the ХВ national team. Even if they lose all games, they will gain huge experience, and if they manage to win... (personally, I received such a "baptism by fire" two months after joining the forum, when in a team tournament I happened to play against Dream, Uran, Mizrael, Vitalik, Invisible, Дубровин Павел - the score was 1-5 not in my favor. But after such a thrashing, I managed to win a 2-1 match with Lesgor in the summer Inter-Portal tournament with HP...) Nagan-4
Otherwise, the idea is great; maybe make the title "best HW beginner of 200... year" prestigious
And if such a tournament is made traditional, then winners of previous tournaments should not be accepted.
So, I think I've tasked everyone (meaning - handed out assignments).
Now for the most difficult ones:Questions and tasks for the Appeals Commission (АК).
There are two sides here. First, everything concerning the organization of the АК (how many people, for what term, powers, how a decision is made, cases of re-election...). The АК has not yet been elected. We will discuss this issue later. There are many proposals. I will systematize them tomorrow or the day after.
Second, and most importantly - development of Rules for resolving disputed situations. /Why do I insist so much on developing Rules? In a year of online games, I participated in more than 20 tournaments. Not without disputed situations. If the situation was regulated by the Rules, no problems arose during its resolution. But if no suitable rule was found, which happened a couple of times, it was necessary to seek the truth from a third party. This third party is often either unknown, unavailable for contact, not fully competent, or cannot take full responsibility. The matter can drag on for an indefinite period, and that costs nerves and time. Therefore, I am sure that if we classify our problems, clearly define the algorithm of players' actions, ways to solve problems, and in separate cases, punishments, then these problems will become significantly fewer. Do we need disputes about insults, avoiding finishing a game, extortion of one's turn (авто), non-confirmation of reports, etc.?/ That is: 1. Need to clearly identify the issues that the АК will resolve. 2. Determine the algorithm of players' actions and the information necessary for making a decision. 3. Possible punishments. 4. Statute of limitations. There are also many proposals on this matter; I have made some sketches. In a couple of days, I will refine them and post them for discussion, supplementation, and corrections.
So, I open the second round of discussing Tournament Rules:smile16: