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2 Wlk777.
/topic/4720/ - here is where all the moderators were appointed (by the way, it's a neighboring section).

/topic/3912/
And this is where the main discussions took place.
After being banned for no reason, one might feel inclined to write something like this. Why "for no reason"? Because many people who are knowledgeable about this issue said so. So, this isn't my opinion.
I can also tell you that the ban was justified; many people who are knowledgeable about this issue said so;
However, he very much tries to "convince" others with his personal opinion by awarding points for nothing and issuing bans.
He awarded fewer points than any other moderator. And Hacker wasn't the only one issuing bans;
For example, I bought a hero at the beginning of the game and left him in a mine (or just let him wander around), and then brought him out at the end of the game. Let's compare him to a support hero purchased midway through the game, who has already collected some obelisks. Also, a level 1 hero can pick up an important pile of gold just as well as a level 40 hero.
Exactly, not worse, but not better either. Any task that a level 1 hero can perform, a level 40 hero can also perform, but not vice versa;)


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Kyle
There's a box in the lower right corner, labeled "Moderators," which shows who is moderating this section.
It's also written on the fence :D. The point is that moderators should moderate the section, and higher-level admins should only intervene in extreme cases, such as when moderators are absent and personal arguments with profanity arise in the thread. This isn't my opinion; it's a moderation practice that has proven very successful and stable when applied, tested over time on forums with a very large number of participants (by the way, someone here asked me why I'm here if there are more popular forums – well, it's obvious that people don't play Heroes of Might and Magic there; there are different interests here, and different interests there).
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Wlk777
I searched and checked but didn't find any topic like "Moderator election for the Heroes 3 section."
You didn't search well:
Link one.
Link two.
Link three.
Link four.
Wlk777
He should at least understand the game enough to recognize a cheater when there is 100% proof, and punish him (her), not normal people who have suffered by wasting their time.
At that time, 100% guilt had not yet been proven.
It was suggested to wait for a game with Smoke_mk. But even after that, the arguing continued. To stop it, a preventive ban was applied (and I must note that he had already been warned several times about the possibility of this).
I don't deny that Hacker is wrong in some ways. But there are no perfect people... Let's treat each other more calmly.

Good luck.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Kyle
You didn't search properly:
My bad :(
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Wlk777
The whole point is that moderators should moderate the section, and higher-level admins should only intervene in extreme cases, such as when moderators are absent and personal arguments with profanity begin in a thread.
That's exactly what happened in this thread – it turned into an argument with profanity and harassment of another player. The fact that this player turned out to be a cheater was just luck. But what if he hadn't been cheating? Such unwarranted harassment isn't good.
Besides, someone already mentioned that we are all adults now and therefore should behave accordingly.
If the discussion had taken place in a more polite manner, nothing like this would have happened.
For example, recently a cheater was caught in Might & Magic IV. But here's the paradox: no one was banned after he was caught. Why? Because everyone behaved appropriately. Here's a thread about that incident.

Good luck.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Wlk777
It's also written on the fence :D
Still, this is a themed forum, not a fence. Therefore, you shouldn't write those three-letter words here. ;)

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Guys, do you even read what we write to you? Apparently not. This is disrespectful to fellow forum users! I protest!!! You should be banned...
The fact that this player turned out to be a cheater was just luck. But what if he wasn't? Such harassment without a reason is not good.
By the time the so-called "bullying" started, everything had already been proven.
If the discussion had been more polite, nothing like this would have happened.
Even the most harmless posts were being deleted.
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Kyle
That's how the argument started, with swearing and harassment of another player...
Hold on, hold on, other suspects (some with green nicknames) claim that there was no swearing and that the posts were deleted for no reason, and they even had to be restored. And that player (IMO) brought it on themselves; they shouldn't have denied the obvious with innocent eyes when caught cheating (treating everyone like fools, sorry).
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StickyFingaz
Even the most harmless posts were deleted.
Wlk777
Hold on, other users (some with green names) claim that there was no profanity and the posts were deleted for no reason, and they even had to be restored.
Did I say that everything was done perfectly?
(only vbn did a perfect job, and I have great respect for him for that)
After all:
Kyle
I'm not arguing, Hacker was too hasty and was wrong in some ways.
Kyle
I'm not arguing, Hacker was wrong in some ways. But there are no perfect people...
I've already said this twice.


However, you don't want to see your own fault in what happened. But it was there. How many warnings were given? Did you listen to them?

Summary: As strange as it may seem, everyone is to blame for what happened. We have already analyzed the situation in the administration section, and I hope that in the future, we will behave more appropriately in controversial cases. But we also hope that you, in turn, will behave more correctly.
I hope for your understanding.

Good luck.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Kyle
. How many warnings were issued? Did you listen to them?
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I won't speak for others, but I'll say this about myself: if I'm having a proper dialogue and not committing any serious violations, and then some people suddenly start issuing warnings, I'll at least ignore them, and at most (if I'm in a bad mood), I might easily tell them to go away. Fact :cool:
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Wouldn't it be reasonable, with the growing understanding of the former coordinator's lack of competence, to nullify all the points he awarded to innocent users?
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Wouldn't it be reasonable, with the growing understanding of the former coordinator's lack of competence, to annul all the points he awarded to innocent users?
I agree :)

Read about why the points were awarded; it's nonsense.
And there's also talk about some kind of heroic atmosphere...
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