Posts from Dialogues with Moderators

I ask that I be banned from this forum for life.

I decided to stop playing.

I am stopping playing indefinitely.

Bravo to Hacker! You have to admit, not everyone [coz of ban] can single-handedly destroy the most peaceful and pleasant atmosphere among all the forums dedicated to Might and Magic 3! :smile54: :smile54: :smile54:

But seriously, if this continued, I would have left anyway. Hacker is a rare [coz of ban], and since his [coz of ban] [coz of ban] started appearing in the Might and Magic 3 community, I had a premonition that something was wrong. I hope he really won't hold the position of Coordinator anymore, because in that case, World would occupy a worthy place in [coz of ban].

I can only hope that the series of departures from World will stop with Smoke.

Peace to everyone, and try to have less to do with such [coz of ban] as Hacker.

I personally want to stand up for Hacker. People are attacking him for simply doing his job, and he isn't even getting paid for it; he's doing it voluntarily! We should respect other people's work! Perhaps the bans at that time were the only right decision to somehow de-escalate the situation. But they should have banned him for a maximum of 24 hours, and everything would have been fine. ;)

I personally want to stand up for Hacker. People are attacking him for simply doing his job, and he's not even getting paid for it; he's doing it voluntarily! We need to respect other people's work! Perhaps the bans at that time were the only right decision to somehow de-escalate the situation. But they should have banned him for a maximum of 24 hours, and everything would have been okay. ;)

I agree!
All moderators and coordinators work voluntarily. I haven't seen any lines of players eager to take on the burden of responsibility and work as moderators. It takes time and responsibility, plus integrity. It's a difficult and sometimes thankless job.
By the way, what's next? Will everything now fall on the shoulders of the second coordinator, Luchik?? That's right! What a great gift for her on March 8th! Now she'll be working for two.

We all came to the site and read the rules, so we need to follow them.
And the right decision in the conflict was to temporarily freeze everything to cool things down and resolve the conflicts.
If, for example, a player is caught red-handed, and there is evidence of his violations (and cheating), he should be punished – up to and including a ban on that player participating in future tournaments.
But mutual insults never lead to anything good.

It's very painful and difficult to watch all this... We were playing peacefully in our own little world, building houses and castles, and we put a lot of effort into creating this Eden... And then someone came along and trampled all over it... There is clearly an abuse of power here... There are Rules for the portal and Rules for moderators. The system of violations and automatic blocking was created precisely to minimize the likelihood of moderator errors. Some people also interpret the phrase "The first pancake always comes out lumpy" as a veiled form of profanity. All people can make mistakes. According to the rules, "coordinators and moderators simply record user violations, also following the established list of violations." The rules do not mention any "preventive bans." "Every action taken by a moderator that is related to user violations that fall under the current system of violations must be recorded in the moderator's system violation control panel." This was not done. "The HeroesWorld administration has the right to change the portal rules. New rules become relevant and effective from the moment they are published by the administration." No other rules have been published. Therefore, these rules should be in effect at the moment. And how is this a correct decision if the situation has escalated to the limit precisely because of these bans? The situation should have been defused in a different way. And to prevent this from happening again, we need to adjust our rules for online games. I hope we will discuss this soon in the appropriate thread. Okay. What happens next? Should we all give up and scatter? Should we all be offended with the whole world? Maybe we should look each other in the eye and try to understand that our relationships haven't changed... That we still care about each other, rejoice, and get upset... And the departure of any of us will only make things worse for ourselves...

People, I don't get you! Why are you all jumping on Hacker?! He is very important to HeroesWorld, just like Lu4ik (though he's a bit more important, hehe). Without him, everything will only get worse!
First of all, why take offense at someone for doing their job.
Secondly, you won't find anyone better than him! The forum is already dying, and without him you might as well shoot yourselves (for those who didn't get it, that's figurative!)
So stop picking on Hacker, or I'll kill you, damn it!
Sincerely, Neira Drake.

People, I don't understand you! Why are you attacking Hacker?! He is very important for Hv, just like Luchik (although he is more important, a little bit))). Without him, everything will only get worse!
Firstly, why get offended because someone is fulfilling their duties.
Secondly, you won't find anyone better than him! The forum is already dying, and without him, it will be even worse (for those who don't understand, this is figurative!).
So stop picking on Hacker, or I'll kill you!
Sincerely, Neira Drake.

I have nothing against hackers:D... But when they start "mischief" in our "Heroes3 online" sandbox:smile13:... If you like Mr. Hacker so much, ask him to stay somewhere in your "5": I suspect that he is more competent there... His "understanding" of the spirit of fair play in ranked games is already evident in a number of his posts in the "Unconfirmed Reports" thread: apparently, he himself has not been in such an unpleasant situation, when you submit a winning report, but there is no confirmation after an hour, a day, or a month - personally, when a player on the Portal did not confirm my win for a week, I felt like a complete idiot, almost like a cheater - how can you leave such, even if it's not systematic, rudeness and disrespect unpunished with the Administration's response "Just don't play with him anymore" (as if, let others play and again receive silent non-confirmations from him). Everything has already been said about bans and the rest. And I don't want to offend anyone, but we don't need "elephants in a china shop" - if the Coordinator fully satisfies the respected forum members from other sections, then I will personally stand up for him, just so that he doesn't come to us anymore with his 5 KOPPEYKI:) .

Yeah, it turns out we have a lot of offended people. I'll say that this tactic is known to everyone since birth: when trying to get their way or just to be heard, children start screaming or doing something nasty until they get the desired result.
ADULTS usually know how to resolve ALL issues in a more adequate way.
Invisible, being hot-headed is one thing, but why resort to childish behavior? Surely you're not new here and don't know how the administration is structured, how the forum works, etc.
First of all, it's clear that it takes time from the moment a conflict arises to the acceptance, and especially the implementation of a decision, because this isn't real life where you say something and it's done... you still need to take into account the costs of communication over the internet.
Sticky was banned for only 2-3 days, and that was specifically for swearing and insults (although he wrote to me in IC that it was "for bullying" - but the person came back and unleashed a new barrage of insults on the forum. It's perfectly justified if he gets banned for another term!
Lebron, some consider him a strong player, but does he have the right to swear and, moreover, insult other players without reason?
And it doesn't matter whether he is useful or not to the community... take Paladin as an example.
Loi doesn't need to be defended either - with a reasonable approach, he could have had his ban lifted right now, but no one has tried to do that; everyone is just writing: "Why was he banned - the administration sucks."
First, they should have found out the reason and then either written a collective letter to the Creator or simply "pulled some strings and resolved the issue through the administration representatives."
The fact that Loi is deleting everyone from his contact list only confirms that the person is NOT OK right now.
Pit, don't nitpick the forum rules - it's clear that they are not ideal, just like the Coordinators (including Hacker). It was simply impossible to avoid these problems, as we don't have a responsible person in the most active section (Heroes 3 online). I'm not talking about vbn now - he simply can't handle all of this physically, and he didn't have such responsibilities anyway - thankfully, he's already doing a huge amount of work related to this section and others.
And Hacker, due to his responsibilities, had to intervene in this incident and did what he could (right or wrong).
As someone rightly wrote above, they are all doing this completely free of charge, and what? Is there no freedom of speech? ... but no one notices that the coordinators, for example, don't allow themselves to unleash a torrent of insults on the forum, while ordinary users can and do, and some are not stopped by violation points or preventive bans... and in such situations, it is necessary to ban them immediately (even bypassing the forum rules).
You need to be able to sense psychologically when a person is at their limit or when they have personal problems, so both bans are justified for now... and if Invisible is banned not at his request, but because he threatens to do something and will do it, then that will also be fair.
By the way, Hacker makes a significant contribution to the forum's work by providing technical support for HeroesWorld - who will do this now?
Have you found a replacement before forcing the person to leave?
This is where the blatant pursuit of personal interests is revealed, without thinking about the consequences.
Many may disagree with something I wrote here, including the administration, but such a post will never be deleted, because this "freedom of speech" was written at least with the basic rules of the forum in mind.

Thank you, Kyle; Qwerty; Dirty_Player; wolf64; Neyra Drake

I can't stand it anymore – I'll speak my mind:
1) I'm disappointed with this turn of events – just yesterday, I signed the Invisible petition to the Creator, which spoke about the abuse of power by Hacker in the section dedicated to Might and Magic III online. Of course, one can delve into the motives behind the actions – unfair removal of posts, including mine – but I'm ashamed, not so much before Hacker, but before everyone who knows me. My name can no longer be removed from there, but it's not too late to apologize.
2) Those players who decided to leave "in an English manner" probably cannot be persuaded to stay, and I think it's useless. Let them leave – well, go ahead, we will miss you.
3) As everyone has noticed, we are completely unprepared for conflict situations – 3 bans, several people are leaving... But perhaps this was inevitable – until the rooster pecks :D – let's just prepare for the next similar situation – there should be 1 or more competent people who will make decisions on these issues.
4) There's no need to talk about the destroyed atmosphere – we create this atmosphere ourselves. Does it make sense to restore it? I think it does – because it's simply unthinkable – because of 1 cheater, there's so much noise, scandals, and people leaving... Did such a simple situation change everything so seriously? Ehh...
In general, I've said everything. Although, no – I apologize to Hacker, I apologize to everyone.
There's more.
Loi, you've done a lot for the development of online on our portal – can you really just give up so easily?
In short – okay, I've said my piece.

If we avoid personal attacks and speak in general terms, the correct approach is as follows: If, during a game or tournament, one of the players forms the opinion (or has a suspicion) that someone is playing unfairly (e.g., cheating), then: 1. They can act like an ostrich (burying their head in the sand) – add the suspected player to their blacklist and never play with them again. 2. Gather evidence of the alleged unfair play or rule violation, and, *without public accusations or swearing*, in the thread, contact the tournament organizer, section moderator, or coordinator (whichever they choose) to investigate the alleged rule violation by the player. The site has many strong, competent players who can provide a balanced and informed opinion (due to their skill) on whether there were any violations (or cheating). After this, an official statement is made in the thread that the player violated the rules and that appropriate sanctions will be applied. P.S. – We must not forget about the presumption of innocence. Even if you are 100% sure that a player has violated the rules, the verdict must still be officially issued by the site's officials after an investigation. Otherwise, if you publicly insult someone and call them a cheater, and then it turns out that you were wrong, it will be very embarrassing, and you will have to publicly apologize.

It turns out Stickky was only banned for 2-3 days, and specifically for swearing and insults (although in a private message, he told me it was "for bullying" - but then he came back and posted a new barrage of insults on the forum.

I wasn't swearing before the ban, and where in my post-ban message did you see even one swear word? And by the way, it was Luchik who banned me, and specifically for "bullying."

Many may disagree with something I wrote here, including the administration, but such a post will never be deleted, as this "freedom of speech" was written while at least adhering to the basic rules of the forum.

Did you even watch the argument about Jedi? Did you see what messages Hacker was deleting? After what he did in that thread, I realized that there is no freedom of speech on HW either (this does not apply to the deletion of my posts). And the Administration will give you a kiss on the cheek for your post, lol.

Oh, for goodness sake! Please stop bickering with each other.
If you have something to say, take it to private messages or ICQ – vent your emotions there.

There’s no need to turn every topic into a chat where you air your grievances...

Alex R said it very well, good job!
Indeed, it's very easy now to get offended with everyone and leave! Invisible, Loy, Smok, who else wants to leave? Several people will leave, and then they will blame Hacker, saying that he ruined everything. But in reality, those who leave are the ones ruining everything! If you look at it objectively, nothing really criminal happened.
And if you get offended because you were banned for swearing and insults, then I'm sorry. Personally, I find it disgusting to read posts that contain profanity, even if it's veiled.

I didn’t swear until I was banned, and where in my post-ban message did you see even a single curse word?

I didn't see it, because it was cut out
[coz of ban]

Were you even watching the argument about Jedi? Did you see what messages Hacker was deleting? After what he did in that thread, I realized that even on HeroesWorld there’s no freedom of speech (this doesn’t apply to the deletion of my posts). And as for you, the Administration will kiss you on the forehead for your post, lol.

I was watching. I already wrote that Hacker should have intervened.
But how he did it – that’s a separate conversation.
And there’s no need to get smart about who the administration is kissing.
Although the fact that another VDV coordinator approved my post – while Lebron replied with swear words – says something.
And only such people are now trying to sow panic and write that the forum’s atmosphere has deteriorated.
P.S. Even if someone wants to leave the forum – don’t try to pull a knight’s move – it’ll still end up being a feint with your ears

It’s not about cheating at all. I’ll say that there have already been incidents with this person, who was previously an authorized user, and it’s precisely because of his attitude. As Inviz rightly said, you can find off-topic content in almost every post, albeit a little, but it’s there, and editing a post is even worse than deleting it (by the way, I’ve already talked about this somewhere). I’ve been on this forum for almost a year and a half (not much, of course, but still) and I want to say that before (before Hacker started such active activity), there were no such conflicts.
Time will tell, but I still hope for the best.

I didn't think I would have to post here again. Previously, this wasn't the case because people were a little kinder and more respectful of others (and I'm not talking about myself or other moderators). The topic clearly raised the issue of violating game rules. And there is no doubt that if the fact of the violation was confirmed, measures would be taken. Since harassment of a user began, the moderators had to intervene. Two moderators asked you to refrain from further comments and wait for an official statement from vbn. Please see Lu4ik; mine was deleted, but you all saw it. You ignored them, which shows your dismissive attitude. After that, you say that someone doesn't respect you? The topic was created to resolve various issues that require discussion (in this case, discussion would have been needed if vbn had provided confirmation). That is why posts were being deleted instead of closing the topic. Regarding bans: there was no other choice, as a person who refuses to admit he is wrong deliberately started trolling on the forum. This is not an isolated incident, and it is not my fault. There was a warning, but you ignored it, and then you demand something... That's how it is... As for my departure, yes, I submitted a request to relinquish my powers. This is not cowardice, and I am not running away from anything. Everyone has their limits, and mine has been reached. I got tired of constantly cleaning up after your "sandbox games." Most people lack morality and ethics, and all the dirt they poured on me here isn't worth staying around for. It's very unfortunate that things turned out this way; I feel incredibly sorry for those who will stay and continue to clean up this mess. I also feel sorry for the Creator and other people with whom I spent more than three years. I hope you don't repeat my mistake; you won't get any gratitude anyway, only insults and blame.