Dialogues with Moderators — Suggestions and improvements.

Zybr

3/6/2009 9:39 AM UTC

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I won't argue with you guys anymore:)
Everything didn't fit in the deletion message, so I'll write it in a separate post.

I apologize to the respected offline players for the content of the previous post. I won't write anything in my defense - I was wrong, and therefore I ask for forgiveness.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

In reply to SEM_56

Oelm

3/6/2009 9:47 AM UTC

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Now, regarding the bans... I want to point out that they weren't banned because they displeased the administration or just for the sake of it, but 99% of the time it was due to personal attacks and/or insults.

However, I have the impression that it's the opposite. People need to have some self-respect. You say they lifted the ban on someone and apologized to them? Did they give him, and everyone else, a guarantee that it won't happen again? Due to the actions of the "Hacker," the forum has indeed started to give off a bad vibe, and I can feel it. If he allows himself to do something like that again, he'll be banned for a long time, along with all his coordinator-like tendencies.

I never thought it would come to this on the World forum. The saying about a herd really applies here.

P.S. In light of the previous post, I'm hoping for the best.

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Wlk777

3/6/2009 12:03 PM UTC

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Alex_R

- they just took away the ability to post on the forum for 10 days... they can still browse, and I'm sure they continue to do so.

They can't. With my average user skills (although many of my acquaintances think I'm really good with computers, I can easily repair and configure them), when I was banned, I couldn't access the forum without reinstalling Windows (I didn't do that). Although, maybe I could have figured something out with the browsers, but is it worth it? Next, regarding the rest. What insults did they ban Loy for (I don't know anything about Sticky)? For calling a cheater a cheater? :confused: Isn't it an insult from the cheater when they are 100% exposed with their brazen... face... and they keep treating everyone like "idiots," not admitting anything and not apologizing? In my opinion, that's definitely an insult, and if not for the cheating, then they should be banned for that. This isn't a gathering of 10-year-old kids bragging to each other about who has more cheats, you know. The attitude from the forum administration needs to change, with less respect for cheaters, especially those who are so brazen. IMHO

Ta Kotoraya...

3/6/2009 4:27 PM UTC

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but I'm sure Loi doesn't even care about it.

Actually, I think it's the opposite! He completely removes the in-game aspect, and I think he's in a very depressed state... As soon as I saw all this, I asked the hacker to stop... IMHO, this is completely unacceptable!

Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...

Kyle

3/6/2009 6:53 PM UTC

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invisible

Please ban me from this forum permanently.

Comrades, what are you even starting to do?
Yes, I understand that nerves are on edge, but we still need to approach what happened more calmly.
I won't argue, Хакер was hasty and in some ways wrong. But he was driven by a desire to stop the scandal until all the details were clarified. He needed to cool hot heads not with a ban, but by closing the thread (which, thank God, vbn did).

And what's happening now? Because of one player (a cheater), the portal is starting to fall apart, where before (according to many other players) a normal atmosphere reigned. Even during the tournament of three portals (Bay, HP, HW), the atmosphere on our portal was not so tense.

It seems everything has been resolved, the offender has been publicly exposed (and I hope banned). The guys from the ban (if I'm not mistaken) will be released tomorrow (still, they should have been a bit more restrained in their words).

Why continue to argue? We are all human and we all make mistakes...

Good luck.
Everything said above is IMHO and does not claim to be the absolute Truth.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров

Kyle

3/6/2009 7:12 PM UTC

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Here's a great post by Nagan-4 on the same topic.

Let's all calm down and, as Wlk777 said:

Wlk777

Forget about all these arguments, cheaters, and those who break the rules – ban them; let someone write to 442018688, and we can play SoD for 4-6 minutes.

After all, we are all here not to argue… ;)

Good luck.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров

Wlk777

3/6/2009 7:37 PM UTC

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I'd like to share my thoughts on the recent events. I think we need to calm down first and then draw conclusions from them. So, what I suggest is to use the experience of moderation systems from much more popular internet forums. For example, a simple system: each section is moderated by 2-3 people (on average). These positions are elective; usually, they appoint people who are well-known and respected, and their activities are rarely interfered with by the admins, often simply because there is no need for it. Practice shows that this kind of management is quite effective and useful, and conflicts and complaints rarely arise. I suggest introducing something similar here, at least in one of the sections (let's say, Heroes 3) and at least as an experiment. IMHO.

SEM_56

3/6/2009 7:51 PM UTC

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I support the idea of VLK777; it's quite constructive! 2. I ask Serega to calm down a bit; everyone knows his passion, and I've experienced it myself... But if everyone starts acting like this, then indeed, no one will be left, and we can forget about the heroes altogether... Our portal is probably the only one left where games, tournaments, and discussions are held daily... Let's preserve what we have because there is no other!

Ушел с героев, пока пряники)

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Smoke_mk

3/6/2009 7:54 PM UTC

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Well, given the situation, please allow me to say goodbye as well. I will stop playing for an indefinite period, and I request that my name be removed from the tournament list. The atmosphere on the forum has been completely ruined, and no matter how much I would like to believe otherwise, it is beyond repair... Good luck to everyone, let's hope for the best...

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kcfgogbfalgfl

3/6/2009 8:04 PM UTC

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What needed to be proven. Because of one person (I’m not talking about the Cheater right now), such conflicts are blown out of proportion. This isn’t the first flame war started by him. You destroyed the idyll in the "All About Everything" section; that wasn’t enough for you, so you moved to the online section.
What have you achieved?
-You’ve completely ruined the atmosphere of HeroesWorld.
-Many online players want to leave for other portals or stop playing altogether.
Thank you.

P.S. I completely agree. HeroesWorld can’t get back that "homey atmosphere" — even if you glue a broken cup back together, the cracks will remain.

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - Эмилия -

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Vlad

3/6/2009 8:36 PM UTC

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I have been waiting for this conflict to develop for a long time, and I think it has finally reached a logical conclusion.

Let's start in order.
1) I had to intervene in the conflict because you, esteemed users, stopped observing the boundaries of decency and respect.
2) I have been on the forum since its inception and have read 90% of all posts on this forum, so there is no need to tell me about my incompetence.
3) I respect all of you, but as long as you don't start respecting the opinions of those in charge, in this case, vbn, I have nothing to talk to you about.

If you still don't understand the reasons, I'm very sorry.
In any case, the decision regarding the conflict with any player who has violated the rules should be made by the person in charge, and turning the forum into a pub and arguing is low and stupid. Your meaningless chatter won't change anything. It will only result in those whose posts were deleted feeling offended.

What bothers me most is your audacity, with which you all behave. If your post is deleted, it is by no means a sign of disrespect.

I see that you still can't calm down (it's very nice to call this justice, Maggot), well, I asked to be removed from my position.
I think it will be easier for everyone now. Please do not bother me anymore. And don't pick apart my bones in your chatter.

I left once, but they asked me to return, now don't ask.

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Smoke_mk

3/6/2009 8:58 PM UTC

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Xaker

I see that you still can't calm down, well, I asked to be removed from my position.
I think it will be easier for everyone now. Please do not bother me anymore.

The only right decision...

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invisible

3/6/2009 9:21 PM UTC

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1) I had to intervene in the conflict because you, esteemed users, stopped observing the boundaries of decency and dignity.

I repeat once again that there are competent moderators there.

2) I have been on the forum since its foundation and have read 90% of all posts on this forum, so you don't need to tell me about my incompetence.

By competence, I meant the game nuances in Might and Magic III Online, which you don't play!

3) I respect all of you, but until you start respecting the opinion of those in charge, in this case, vbn, I have nothing to talk to you about.

The whole point is that vbn would have sorted it out himself. By the way, you didn't even know that vbn is the lead organizer of this tournament, and yet you talk about competence.