Light for the Necromancer. — Necropolis

LordViRuS

2/10/2009 4:56 PM UTC

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Chaos is actually better than light for Necromancers, as it provides a lot of magic.
And if you focus 100% on being a warrior, light won't help you much. I've tested it; if you develop warfare, you don't get much magic, and the spells last for only 2-3 turns and don't help much. But, for example, darkness can be very useful in 3 turns, even with low magic, and summoning is simply a great ability. You can create hordes of neutral creatures with minimal magic and troops, so light is a magic that I personally would develop last.

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Alex_R

2/10/2009 6:52 PM UTC

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The longer the game lasts, the more effective light magic is for a Necromancer. Dark magic is also more suitable for medium to long games, while Summoning is the most effective for a quick battle with an opponent, followed by Chaos. In both cases, it's good to have machines and defense. It's illogical that light magic such as blessing, stone skin, and punishing strike affects a Necromancer, but it becomes effective with a large army.

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VaRvArHawk

2/11/2009 3:27 AM UTC

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LordViRuS

Chaos is actually better than light for Necromancers, as it provides a lot of spells.
And if you focus 100% on being a warrior, light won't help you much. I've tested it; if you develop warfare, you don't get many spells, and the spells last for only 2-3 turns and don't help much. But, for example, darkness can be very useful in 3 turns, even with low spell power, and summoning is simply a great thing. You can place hordes of neutral creatures with minimal spell power, and the troops will be effective. So, light is a magic that I would personally develop last.

Necromancers have decent spell power, but the amount of mana is not very high, and you won't have enough for many chaos spells, while light, even if it lasts for 3 turns, is still effective. In three turns, blessed troops can deal significant damage to the enemy.
However, I agree that the effect of light magic on Necromancers is illogical.

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Wistrit

2/11/2009 3:30 AM UTC

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With necromantic magic, light will last until the next battle. It is effective, of course, if it exists on its own. I mean, as a spell.

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Except the ones we've made

KonServator

2/11/2009 9:29 AM UTC

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Light is a good choice when other schools of magic are not effective, for example, when playing against another Necromancer, as darkness loses some of its usefulness in that situation. Otherwise, I would prefer Chaos.

LordViRuS

2/11/2009 6:02 PM UTC

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Necromancers have little mana, but they can easily replenish it in battle, and they also have various artifacts. If they also acquire education, they will have enough mana to cast spells. Dark Elves also have little mana. Therefore, light magic is not needed by necromancers.

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Если ты спориш с идиотом проверь не делает ли он то же самого
Пунктация и орфография авторские, критике не подлежат.

Мы не жалели времени и силы,
Земля дрожала под ногами тьмы,
И род людской, беспомощный и хилый,
Рабами стал закрывшейся тюрьмы.

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Alex_R

2/11/2009 6:46 PM UTC

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LordViRuS

Necromancers have little mana, but they can easily replenish it in battle, and they have various artifacts. If they also get an education, they'll have enough mana to cast spells. Dark Elves also have little mana. The point is that light magic is not needed by necromancers.

Do you understand what you wrote?
1) Necromancers have little mana, it's easy to replenish, they have various artifacts, get an education... and? :confused: ... enough to cast spells for Dark Elves!? :D
2) How did you come to the conclusion that "light magic is not needed by necromancers" from what you wrote above?

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Kitsune

2/11/2009 10:31 PM UTC

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LordViRuS

Necromancers have little mana, but they can easily replenish it in battle, and they also have various artifacts. If they also get an education, they will have enough mana to cast spells. Dark Elves also have little mana. The point is that light magic is not needed by necromancers.

I completely agree with Alex_R that only the conclusion of this reasoning is clear... that light magic is not needed by the undead.
Please write in such a way that the reasoning itself is also clear.

KonServator

2/11/2009 10:39 PM UTC

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The point is that light is a type of magic that necromancers don't need.

lol)))

I completely agree with Alex_R that only the conclusion of this reasoning is clear... that light magic is not needed by the undead.

But I don't understand the conclusion at all. :confused: Maybe I'm just a complete noob and I don't understand anything from what was written above?

Lord Vampire

2/11/2009 11:38 PM UTC

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The bottom line is this: take mass Stone Skin and mass Haste from the defense and attack branches. There's no need to spend on light, neither Holy Word nor Resurrection (Raise Dead is enough) for the Necropolis. Darkness and Summoning will overwhelm anyone. Spending a skill point on light is foolish.

Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Wistrit

2/12/2009 12:22 AM UTC

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What about retribution or evasion? Blessing is the same. Antimagic, revenge. With billions of Necromancers, revenge is more terrifying than ever.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

KonServator

2/12/2009 12:39 AM UTC

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Again, I'll start by talking about light magic when playing Undead against Undead. Revenge is always satisfying. Also, here's another tactical option: cast Antimagic on a large group of your own units (for example, zombies, as there are usually many left by the end of the battle), and then let your opponent cast spells until they run out of mana.

Boris K

2/12/2009 7:13 PM UTC

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What about spells that inflict penalties or grant evasion? Bless is the same. Antimagic, Vengeance.

The same can be said about excellent spells from other schools. But you can't level up all 4 schools of magic.

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LordViRuS

2/12/2009 8:11 PM UTC

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Alex_R

Do you even understand what you wrote?
1) Necromancers have little mana, it's easy to replenish, there are different artifacts, you can get an education... and? :confused: ... enough casting spells on dark elves!? :D
2) How did you come to the conclusion that "light is not needed for necromancers" from what was written above?

I always understand what I write.
1) I just have a small problem with punctuation; there should be a comma, and I wrote that dark creatures also have little mana, but nevertheless, they still cast spells well.
2) This is a response to a barbarian's message; we were arguing about whether light or chaos is better.

Divine and holy magic is good, of course, but if you're playing against a mage who isn't going to attack, or an orc with a lot of blood and magic resistance, then light won't even have time to help. The only advantage of light is antimagic, and that's too rare.
So, I repeat, of all the magics, light is the least useful for necromancers.

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Если ты спориш с идиотом проверь не делает ли он то же самого
Пунктация и орфография авторские, критике не подлежат.

Мы не жалели времени и силы,
Земля дрожала под ногами тьмы,
И род людской, беспомощный и хилый,
Рабами стал закрывшейся тюрьмы.

VaRvArHawk

2/13/2009 3:35 AM UTC

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In a battle against a mage or another light hero, light itself won't help, but, for example, against another necromancer, orc, or demon (provided you have a ring), a holy word will be much more effective than the same berserk.

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