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My rank isn't active because I haven't assigned it to anyone yet, as the voting for the nomination – a walkthrough description – is very weak. Why inflate my idea into something unclear? Why make things more complicated for myself and other users?:confused: Imagine a newcomer who becomes interested in our site but, after studying all its intricacies in an overly complex style, might simply leave forever!:( And we can't allow that! Everything should be simple and tasteful!; ) And still unique, with a system unlike any other, accurately reflecting reality. Now, specifically: What else don't you like about the PLAYER RATING AND RANK SYSTEM for participants in the 5th Heroes tournament?:confused: Because, in reality, everything is simple: RATING - only points earned in the tournament, depending on placement, calculated according to the table. RANK - Calculated based on the total sum: Tournament placement (points) + Skill score placement + Placement by amount of Mercury + Map description placement. The RATING and RANK will accumulate from tournament to tournament. Separate information for each tournament will be available in a separate topic closed for discussion. And also: Note 6 - ADMIN or moderators reserve the right to award POINTS (GULDENS) only to those users who have made significant contributions to improving and enhancing our website, within reasonable limits!!! (Perhaps it would be necessary to introduce a third rank for this purpose, so that tournament achievements are not combined with website-related ones, and come up with a name for them, for example, SITEANS!). In this same table! This is where you should have suggested an idea that would actually work and reflect the efforts of users whose work would be recognized by these very SITEANS!!! Which could become our currency, which could be used to buy anything offered by Supreme, IronAxe, AlexeyPank, and others. So let's discuss ONLY SITEANS (GULDENS, etc.) which will be the third line under the AVATAR, and will have the meaning I outlined above, which can be bought, sold, etc. But if someone doesn't like the RANK and RATING system for some reason, then let's discuss it in a specific topic created for this!!! Everyone is silent... In the topic – ranking system for tournaments on our forum, or rather the table that I introduced, practically everyone was satisfied with all points, and naturally I made all the corrections proposed by the users. SEE ALL OF THIS IN THE FINISHED TABLE! /topic/at/19416/ Everything is simple there. P.S. Supreme's idea "on how to spend money earned from tournaments and active participation in the life of the forum" really appealed to me, but it needs to be refined and brought to perfection. (I will express my opinion about its pros and cons later). Everyone interested should offer their ideas based on this example! And not just say, "I don't like this," "I don't like that," without justifying their answer.:mad: With great respect, VDV_forever
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I would like to express my sincere gratitude to our users, who have repeatedly demonstrated their concern for the future of our website, its growth, and its prospects! They care about its fate!

Suprene, IronAxe, Fanat, AlexeyPank, Night, and many others who have taken and continue to take an active part in the life of our website!

Thank you all!!!

With great respect, VDV_forever
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Ta Kotoraya...;20883
Well, you know... if the 2-3 strongest players on the forum challenge EVERYONE to a duel in turn, they'll grab all the land... not very fair, right? ;)

To avoid this, you could limit the number of duels a player can have for the purpose of capturing land (or something like that). Or, you could prevent players with different ranks from dueling. But everything needs to be carefully considered.
In general, I like the idea of a caste system, even though it means I might end up as a wandering, landless Necromancer :(
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As I understand it, the decision of whether or not to purchase the proposed plots of land will depend solely on the participant's desire, and those who don't have a plot to begin with won't lose much, so if the purchase of plots is indeed implemented, I, for example, won't acquire any.
Overall, I agree with VDV_FOREVER; things need to be simpler. Perhaps special artifacts could be introduced, providing another way to spend money.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

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First, I want to talk about Tournaments. I'm not against the main tournaments happening every 2-3 months (preferably every 3), and a Super Tournament, but I would like it so that any forum member could organize tournaments. Second, regarding special artifacts... Well, I don’t really want them, but okay, let them be in 3 of the tournaments, but not in the final one. That will work. Regarding lands. It was supposed to be that each player has ONE land plot; its income, as well as its defense, depend on the level of the City (Cities), which in turn depends on the Title (although the Title only allows you to have a certain level, but you still need to build it – for Ashans, of course :) ). Regarding capturing lands, it was assumed that lands WOULD NOT be captured. After the war, the winner simply receives part of the loser's Ashans. Regarding offline wars. IronAxe, please explain to me in detail the mechanism of an offline battle between landowners, taking into account city levels, hired armies, and players' mercenaries??? Regarding Peasants, let every Новичок be a peasant and have a land plot with a Level 1 City. About numbers. If Ashans are calculated this way /topic/at/21503/, then I propose such a system for money: The land produces 100 * SUM OF CITY LEVELS / month of Ashans. City Level Upgrade: 250 Ashans. If there are artifacts after all, then IronAxe’s system is acceptable (offensive, defensive, and espionage, although I would remove the last one...), if the active majority agrees with the proposed economic system, I suggest you, IronAxe, review the prices of artifacts; perhaps they need to be adjusted slightly. I roughly based them on your price ranges, but maybe adjustments are needed?
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Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

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I don't understand what prices for artwork could be discussed when we don't even have a currency yet.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

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Yes, some users don't want any tournaments! And they don't like contests! What's the point? Those who want to can play. But why make it so large-scale and post it on the forum?
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fanat;21554
I don't understand what prices for artwork could be discussed when we don't even have a currency yet.

First, we need to invent the wheel, and then the bicycle.
УШЁЛ НАВСЕГДА ОТ ВАС КРИТИНОВ....ГЕРОИ ГОВНО ВЛАСТЕЛИН КОЛЕЦ ФОРЕВА
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Pearl;21556
Yes, some users don't want any tournaments! And they don't like contests! What's the point? Those who want to can play. But why make it so large-scale and bring it to the forum?
No one is forcing them to play...
Tigrenok! You're right!
Supreme
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Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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Then let's get down to inventing the wheel. I proposed a currency – AshWans (Auchan + Van Cunningham = HW). AshWans are awarded for:
1 - Participating in tournaments
2 - Contributing to the portal
3 - Income from lands.
Thus, everyone has the opportunity to earn AshWans, depending on what they prefer. If newcomers also have land plots, they can earn AshWans from them and use them as they see fit. Everyone can spend them on what they want (on special avatars, on titles, on lands, or on profile decorations (crowns, swords, etc.)). Everyone will get what they want.
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I agree, let's take it slow. Regarding money, titles, etc.: maybe we shouldn't introduce land plots after all; is it really that interesting? Let's do what Supreme suggested: each user has a city, and we simply increase its level. This would reduce problems and make things much clearer; a newcomer could easily get the hang of it. As for titles, we can come up with something, for example, as I already suggested, they could be purchased, like in Fable, but to buy a Knight title, for example, you would need a certain rank in addition to the money, and we can come up with similar restrictions for other titles. As for the name of the currency, I don't care what it's called, as long as it's something simple (Guilders or Ashvans are quite suitable).
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

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It's perfectly possible to do without land plots. Cities that can be upgraded are practically the same thing. It's necessary to decide what the money will be needed for, and then think further. Either it will be for upgrades, or special artifacts, or decorations for the user profile, or all together. It is necessary to know the opinion of the portal administration, what they want. Then it will be possible to conduct a discussion already having a basis.
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It is quite possible to do without land plots. Cities that can be upgraded are practically the same thing. It is necessary to determine what the money will be needed for, and then think further. Either it will be upgrades, or special items, or decorations for the user profile, or all together. It is necessary to know the opinion of the portal administration, what they want. Then it will be possible to conduct a discussion already having a basis.
The advantage of cities is that they are the easiest to understand, at least the essence of the idea is clear, while land plots offer some kind of infighting, I don't understand why this is needed.
Money will be needed to upgrade cities, buy titles and artifacts. As for decorating the profile, I suggest developing a system of city levels and their appearance, and replacing the icons of the faction cities with the user's city, in accordance with its level.
Of course, the opinion of the administration is necessary, otherwise we are all writing here, but we don't know if we are going in the right direction.:cool:
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I completely agree that the opinion of the administration is necessary. And spending money on decorating a profile was intended in the following way – giving each other gifts (like flowers, decorations, swords, etc.). And simply decorating your avatar. And the dependence on the city level can be expressed with an additional image (so as not to cancel the change in appearance based on the number of posts). Create some kind of icon under the avatar – the city level. And place the decorations there as well.
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If the idea is fully developed, clear, and will actually make our site more convenient, attractive to new users, and also generate great interest among most of the existing users, then I think that our Esteemed ADMIN will be all for it!!! Personally, I really like the idea! And I think that it definitely has a place on our website in its full form (but only after being carefully considered and made accessible to everyone)! A completely ready idea should be very well described and presented for public viewing so that it can be adjusted and relevant improvements can be made. After all of our revisions together, we will put it up for a general vote, where, I think, it will find its final place on the site! But for now, in order to determine which specific idea to start with, you need to cast your vote in two topics kindly created by AlexeyPank: 1. Where to spend money? /topic/686/ 2. Which currency to choose? /topic/685/ Sincerely, VDV_forever

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