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2 **VDV** & **vbn**: VK8 starts on Monday, and if there are no final results of the voting, changes to the rules, or any comments by the end of today, then VK8 will be held under the same rules as VK3! The poll was closed on the 15th, and now it's the 19th - both vbn and vdv have appeared on the forum repeatedly during these 4 days! I understand that everyone is busy, but don't regret later that VK is running on a pure SoD version, without any patches!
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2 VDV & vbn:
VK8 starts on Monday, and if the voting results are not summarized, the rules are not changed, or there are no comments at all during today, then VK8 will be held according to the same rules as VK3!
The poll was closed on the 15th, and now it's the 19th - during these 4 days, both vbn and vdv have appeared on the forum repeatedly!
Of course, I understand that you are busy and everything happens, but then you shouldn't regret that VK is running on a pure SoD, without any patches!

Come on, start it already on a pure, unmodified version. And I will participate fully...
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Кто сильнее или шаблон для сравнения городов по силе.
Различие офф-лайна в Heroes II и Heroes III.
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What kind of results are expected? Can’t you see the progress?
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Since 10/19/2008, the following changes and additions are made to the General Rules for Offline Tournaments in Heroes III:

1.2. Tournaments are held on Russian versions of Might and Magic III:
The Shadow of Death
(Version 3.2) and Complete Collection [Platinum Edition] (Version 4.0) with the installed patch LMPatch (Version 4.1.1.1).


The patch eliminates this possibility, making the battle map constant,
and the order in which morale, luck, and creature special abilities appear is strictly fixed.',SHADOW, true, TITLE, 'Brief description of the patch', PADDING,9)">What does the patch do? >>


What happens after installing the patch? >>


The topic with information and discussion about the patch can be found here.
In case the patch is not used during the tournament, the participant plays and sends the save at their own risk that, as a result of completing or checking his save, the organizer may determine that the battle was conducted without using the patch, or request a complete (turn-by-turn) description of any battle that the tournament participant conducted from the organizer, which the organizer will not be able to repeat on the patch.
Reference: usually, only the following are subject to verification by the organizer:
• difficult battles;
• battles in which morale, luck, special abilities of creatures (blindness, petrification, deadly gaze, etc.) play an essential role for winning (or exiting the battle with minimal losses);
• final battles.
If the organizer becomes convinced that the participant completed the tournament without using the patch, he has the right not to count the results of this player.

It is allowed to participate in tournaments on English versions of Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Shadow of Death (Version 3.2) and Heroes of Might and Magic III Complete (Version 4.0) with the installed patch LMPatch (Version 4.1.1.1), but participants do so at their own risk that as a result of completing or checking saves, some previously unknown moments may be discovered in which the gameplay mechanics differ between the English version and the Russian version (for reference: no differences have been noticed to date, and presumably there are none). Participating in offline tournaments on other versions of the game, such as Armageddon's Blade or In the Wake of Gods, is prohibited (unless otherwise specified as an exception by the rules of the tournament itself).

1.4.12. It is forbidden to use the assembled artifact "Admiral's Hat" (it can be used disassembled). Reference: multiple boarding and disembarking from a boat while using the "Admiral's Hat" artifact allows you to gain navigation bonuses. At his discretion, the organizer may allow the use of the assembled "Admiral's Hat" artifact by specifying this in the rules of a specific tournament as a separate item. In this case, the organizer must also indicate whether it is permissible to use this artifact without restrictions, or only in certain cases (for example, allowing its use only when the main goal is to cross a water barrier necessary for performing specific actions by the player, rather than gaining navigation bonuses on land).
1.4.14. It is allowed to use "Neutral Unit Carry-Over".
Reference: if a hero stands on a swamp, having a neutral unit (sniper, nomad, troll, etc.) and a hydra (native troop of the swamp) in their army. If a neutral unit (sniper) is placed to the left of the native unit (hydra) in the slots for arranging troops, then the hero will move across the swamp terrain without penalty, as if all creatures in the army were native; if the neutral unit is placed to the right, then the hero will move across the swamp terrain with a penalty.
1.4.15. It is forbidden to leave a hero without troops through any manipulations. Exception: it is allowed to leave a hero without troops only if they were given to complete a quest.
1.4.16. It is allowed to dismiss heroes located in a castle through the "Kingdom Overview" menu -> "Show Cities".
1.5.6. Victory criteria.
As a rule, the winner of tournaments on HeroesWorld is determined using 3 victory criteria.
A request to tournament organizers when forming victory criteria to take this nuance into account. Reference: probably, on some tournament maps, 3 or more victory criteria will be superfluous and should not be introduced. For example, in a tournament to collect the maximum number of skeletons in 3 weeks, with the second decisive criterion being the amount of gold in the treasury, the third criterion here is obviously redundant, since the probability of repeating the result (the same number of skeletons and gold) for two participants in this case is negligible. Perhaps, one criterion is enough here (number of skeletons).
1.5.7. As a rule, the calculation of the sum of primary parameters of the main hero in the final save on HeroesWorld is carried out after the final battle, taking into account the artifacts worn by the hero and the experience gained after the battle. Reference: after the same final battle, a hero can gain a different amount of experience, and accordingly, the number of levels raised by the hero after the battle may differ, and therefore the final parameters of the hero may also differ. Thus, a player could have one set of hero parameters after the battle, while conducting the battle by the organizer would result in other parameters. The following situations are known when a hero can receive a different amount of experience in the same battle: a battle with troops that contain creatures of evil (the amount of experience depends on the number of summoned and killed demons) and a mismatch in the moment when the enemy hero flees from the battle. If such moments occur (which happens extremely rarely), you can use as confirmation an attached screenshot of the screen after the battle, a description of the battle by the player, etc.
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Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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Hey, what if the tournament is for experience points? Is the experience also tallied afterward?
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Monza;201452
Hey, what if the tournament is for experience? Is the experience also calculated afterward?
Absolutely! After all, the final battle in such tournaments can be very important, even the most important, as a kind of grand finale, and exceed the amount of experience gained in all previous battles (although usually, completing a tournament for experience ends with visiting a "Pool of Knowledge," if any are provided on the map).
Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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vbn;201456
posted by Monza
Hey, what if the tournament is for experience? Is the experience also counted afterward?
Absolutely! After all, the final battle in such tournaments can be very important, even the most important, as a kind of grand finale, and it can exceed the amount of experience gained in all previous battles (although usually, completing an experience-based tournament ends with visiting a "Pool of Knowledge," if any are provided on the map).
What are we talking about, gentlemen? In experience-based tournaments, the final save is made after the final battle (if there is one). So, vbn, don't mislead people.

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Kamikaze;201483
What are we talking about, gentlemen? In experience-based tournaments, the final save is made after the final battle (if there is one). So, vbn, don't mislead people.
Well, purely hypothetically :) a situation might arise where, when playing for experience, a map is completed earlier than planned. Naturally, it is impossible to make a save after the final battle. In this case, the question remains relevant, and the final battle must also be taken into account in some way.
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What are you talking about, gentlemen? In experience tournaments, the final save is made after the final battle (if there is one). So, vbn, do not mislead people.
Vitalya, it is you who are misleading. Experience can be a secondary victory criterion, as for example in ВК8 ;)

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Kamikaze
Look more carefully, we are talking about experience tournaments.
Another example! I am level 24, there is 1 enemy hero left, sitting in a castle, killing whom I will reach level 25, but I will not be able to save because it will be a victory.... Well!
vbn
Vitaliy probably wants all the details to be spelled out. But that's too much... The rules are already bloated). Create an F.A.Q. on interpreting the rules of Offline Tournaments?
IMHO, it is possible, or rather NECESSARY, to create an FAQ for beginners "How to participate in offline tournaments on HeroesWorld"! We could also make an extended offline FAQ, which would discuss the rules, how to participate, and other organizational matters.

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