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Clan Wars: online (Autumn 2008)

Inter-clan tournaments. Closed Topic
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Offline Nagan-4
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Dear friends, on behalf of the leader and warriors of the "Many in One" clan, I am authorized to submit an application for hosting the second team Clan War for HoMM3 online. You can read about the first, spring, Clan War here: /topic/4274/ and here: /topic/4308/. So, some introductory information. 1. The team tournament is held to popularize our beloved game, attract new players, consolidate clans, and identify the strongest among them. In addition to registered clans, two teams have the right to participate in the Clan War – the “Union of Independent Clans” team and the Uran and Dudj team, “Iron Crocodiles”. 2. The team tournament will be played on versions 3.2 and 4.0 of the SoD expansion pack for HoMM3. 3. The tournament is played according to the rules of online games for HoMM3 /topic/3515/. 4. The team consists of three people who are members of the same clan. If a clan registers more than three online players, it has the right to make substitutions during the tournament, notifying its opponent in advance. Also, the clan has the right to make changes to the roster and add new clan players during the tournament. If there are not three players in the clan, the clan can field two fighters, but no fewer: the situation where one person plays for the entire team should not happen again. *For example, if there are two players in a clan, they may take one mercenary as a third player; taking two or more mercenaries is not allowed.* Note: A mercenary is a player registered on the forum but not belonging to any registered clans. 5. Tournament schedule. Each team must play one round per week, according to the schedule. *For example, if one of the teams fields only one player for a round, while the other fields three as required, then the first team will receive two losses for absence, and the second will lead in the match 2-0. However, the captain of the team must inform the referee about the absent players of the opposing team in advance. For example, both teams fielded only one player for a round. In this case, the match between the teams will end with a score of 1-0 instead of the expected 2-1 or 3-0.* 6. The tournament uses a round-robin system; each team plays against every other team. The winner is determined by a simple majority of points scored. The clan whose players treat the tournament most conscientiously will win. We ask clan leaders and online fighters to submit applications for the tournament here. The tentative start date of the tournament is October 11th. May the strongest win!
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Offline General ZeT
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Why is it listed in the application from the Union of Independent Clans?

Which clan team are you referring to? Knights don't participate separately from the Union of Independent Clans. And as far as I know, Smock is a good player. You've been taken on as a reserve player for now. If you want to get into the main team, talk to kdj1313 and do it quickly.
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Offline Nagan-4
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As for a clear definition of the roster, that's a sensible idea on one hand... But there will definitely be teams that only field three players, and in the middle of the tournament, someone might not be able to play, and then there's nothing you can do, and the standings will show technical defeats... Is that right?

The main problem for teams is that the players in the main roster are, for the most part, also the only players on the team.
Let's look at the rosters, even based on the submitted applications...
1. Witches - 3 players in the application.
2. СНК - 3 players.
3. Homo Homini - 3 players.
4. If the Crocodiles field a team, it will also be 3 players.
5. Only the "Many in One" team will field 3 players and 3 substitutes. Well, there are a lot of us, what can you do.

So, if something happens to someone during the tournament in real life, the team will be left with two players. Since we agreed that one player cannot play two matches per round, that means the team is guaranteed to lose one match in each remaining round. Will it be interesting to play against such a team? And what if there are two or even three of these incomplete teams?

We called the tournament a clan war, so let's rely on clan strength. But having three players who are simultaneously decent and active online in a clan is currently the maximum that most clans can manage. In that case, one mercenary, a good player, and a decent person wouldn't hurt. It would strengthen the clan individually and strengthen the tournament as a whole. And you don't need to put in maximum effort to find them. If I had a problem finding worthy players, I would first turn to players like Loy, Decontaminator, Pavel Dubrovin, Invisible, Javdet, Pit, and I could continue the list for quite a while...
There are no problems with finding players, as there were in the spring; our Community has grown stronger, and there are many online players on the forum.
Guys, let's all get along!

This is our strength and advantage.

And finally. I ask the remaining teams that want to play in the clan war but haven't submitted their applications yet to hurry up. On Friday at 10:00 PM, the application period ends, and on Saturday, the schedule of rounds will be ready, and we will begin. Otherwise, people will get tired of waiting.
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An interesting situation is unfolding...
I am SEM_56, the captain of the team from the CLAN "KNIGHTS OF THE APOCALYPSE", and I want to register my team and participate in the tournament. But it seems the guys are in too much of a hurry and only think about their own interests, and their words mean little...
I've been gathering a team for about a week, looking for good players, and then this happens. Smoke is already in another team, and as mentioned above, two players don't make a difference...
If my clan members treat the matter like this, is it even worth pursuing...
I am very upset by the events and the attitude. Thank you for your attention.
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SEM_56;199538
Smoke is already on another team, and as mentioned above, two players don't decide much...
But what if Smoke can't decide anything on his own??? Let him speak up, and that's it. Why start arguments?

2Nagan-4
I ask the remaining teams that want to play in the clan war, but haven't submitted their applications yet, to hurry up.
Yegor, why don't you set a good example and announce the EPU lineup?
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Offline Nagan-4
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SEM_56
An interesting situation is unfolding...

Read what was written above. Look at the composition of the Stronghold. The team has no substitutes at all. It seems that at least 6 teams will participate in the clan war, which means 5 rounds, 15 matches per team. I think you could divide the playing time among four players.
Definitely, no one will win from the conflict, but together you have a chance to compete with the strongest clans on the forum. IMHO.
Yegor, why don't you set a good example and announce the composition of the Eastern Promise Union?

P.S. The list of players, by number, will be written by the clan leader, Ta Kotoraya... You won't be wrong if you assume that the team will consist only of clan members - Mizrael, Kamikaze, Neoandy, Dreamcather, Ta Kotoraya, Nagan-4.
You understand, it's difficult to arrange such "hawks" (and one "swallow") in numerical order.
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to Nagan
I think it's not that difficult...
Kamikaze - immediately to the reserves, let him train
TaKotoraya - the same, but for a different reason
Nagan4 - he's with them... it's hard to be on two sides at once ;)
as you can see, three Titans remain, I think there will be enough for everyone :D

Best regards, Kamikaze!

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Overall, this situation is terrible – first and foremost, the clans should prioritize building their own teams... the organization of the Clan War shouldn't interfere with this and take strong players away from the clans...

How can there be any "development of inter-clan relations" if several excellent clans have merged into a single, bland, gray mass that doesn't inform its members...

I wish all teams success and a favorable draw...


- Информация... -вступление...

Твой друг назвал меня принцессой,
А ты сказал, скрывая страх:
Таких принцесс в старинных пьесах,
В конце, сжигали на кострах...
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I don't understand anything! My clan leader messaged me on ICQ, asking on behalf of the general if I could play for Fortress. I replied that I could try, but only if I could also play for the clan at the same time. They said I could. Then I thought about it and realized that this is nonsense! What if, for example, we are in the same group as Fortress? Would I be a double agent? I think, I'm not sure if the same situation applies to Smok! So, please, can someone explain something to me? :)
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
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Okay, let's get this sorted out:
smoke_mk (18:47):
Hey, I have no idea who added me to a team from the Schism, you guys figure it out.

As the team captain, I confirm that Smoke or any other member of my clan cannot be added to another team without my knowledge.
Therefore:
1. The team is almost complete; we just need to accept SLAVCHEG's application...
2. I'll write the team roster, name, and participation in the tournament tomorrow...
3. I hope this kind of situation doesn't happen again. Best regards, SEM_56!!!
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It seems I'm in a similar situation! The only thing is, I'm not entirely sure if our clan can field a full team... We're kind of gathering, but it's taking a while. And is it possible to play both here and there? Please advise and help resolve the issue... General, would you also chime in? It's not looking good otherwise...
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
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Offline Nagan-4
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Let's recall the first Clan War. Three clans participated in it, which are now part of the SNC – "The Half-Dead's Alliance", "Lost Heroes," and "Vampires."
I want to say right away that I am grateful to the leaders of these clans; we communicated on ICQ, and they made every effort to put together teams. But it turned out that there were few players who regularly played online in the clans... So, let's look at how they performed in the table.
/topic/4308/

Clan "The Half-Dead's Alliance". They assembled a team and played with great difficulty; only Denminator played all three matches in the group out of the three players.

Clan «Lost Heroes». Only one person played for the team – mercenary Rhox, and he even managed to win matches.

Clan "Vampires"
Only one person, Blackpoint, played for the entire team; he played actively, playing 7 matches, well done. But he was alone.

And what is the result? There are only 4 players in total for 3 teams. It seems to me that the idea of putting forward a combined SNC team is quite reasonable; then you can definitely gather enough players. The alternative to this is that conflicts and disputes will begin a couple of days before the start; the result will be unregistered teams or applications with unverified people, when they will only be listed on the team.

It is up to the clan leaders to decide which application they will submit – I will record it as such, but as a judge and organizer, I would very much like all teams to be sufficiently staffed and all matches to be played.
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Offline General ZeT
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I spoke with the leaders of the Knights and the Deadly Alliance, and we discussed the issue of finding players for this tournament. These individuals will represent the Allied Clans. I was unaware that the Knights and the Deadly Alliance wanted to participate separately in the clan war, and I hadn't heard anything about it. Furthermore, if these clans want to utilize mercenaries, I don't understand why they need the Allied Clans, as we created the Alliance specifically for such tournaments, where there are few players, and only together can we participate and win. I am extremely disappointed with this situation. I will be contacting the leaders of the Allied Clans.
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You spoke with the Clan Leaders, but not with the players themselves. They are unaware of their participation in the SНК team. Therefore, look for a replacement for Smoke, as he plays for my team...
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Offline Nagan-4
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I spoke with the leaders of the Knights and the Necropolis faction and we discussed the issue of finding players for this Tournament, and these people will represent the SCN. I didn't know and haven't heard that the Knights and the Necropolis faction want to participate separately in the Clan Wars.
You spoke with the leaders of the Clans, but not with the players themselves. They are not aware of their participation in the SCN team. Therefore, look for a replacement for Smoke, he plays for my team...

If you allow, I will express my opinion. The issue is easily resolved. I will base my reasoning on what has been written.
1. There is an established team - Sam and Smoke constantly play together, they have formed a team synergy, I don't know about the third player on their team, I would like them to find someone who knows how to play online and has already participated in battles on our forum. Then this is a fully formed team, capable of playing in the Clan Wars.
2. There is a very useful structure - the SCN, I cannot assess its overall forum activity, but the consolidation of Clans with a small number of players into a single entity appeals to me. As I wrote above, in the first Clan War, there were complaints about the teams of Spiritta and Blackpoint, but what could be done if there were desperately few players in these teams?
At the same time, united into a single entity, they form the core of a team, which, reinforced by, say, one mercenary (a good mercenary, I can talk to strong players who are not part of the Clans), will allow creating a team that is also capable of playing in the Clan Wars.
Moreover, unlike Sam and Smoke, as I understand it, these two players are already veterans of the Clans, that is, it is more appropriate for them to represent the Union of Clans.

In the end, everyone wins. The Tournament gets two formed teams, Sam and Smoke's team gets the opportunity to play in the Clan Wars (if they simply leave the Clan, we won't include them in the Tournament, that's clear), and the SCN gets a team of veterans, reinforced by one ace, plus in the future - finding common ground with Sam and Smoke and getting another promising team of online players for future Tournaments. Was it worth attracting players if they were to be lost immediately?

The main thing is to remember that no one ever wins from scandals, everyone only loses.
Sincerely.

P.S. The teams can be called SCN-1 and SCN-2 so that no one is offended, both represent the organization.
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You spoke with the Clan Leaders, but not with the players themselves. They are unaware of their participation in the SНК team. Therefore, look for a replacement for Smokey; he is playing for my team...

That's what leaders are for – to inform people in the clan. As I understand it, the Knights are competing separately from the SНК. We will look for a replacement for Smokey.

We will try to find a 3rd player for Nagan-4.
P.S. The teams can be named SНК-1 and SНК-2 so that no one feels offended; both represent the organization.

It's not worth doing that. Since the Knights have players, let them compete under their clan's banner.
The main thing is to remember that no one ever wins from scandals; everyone only loses.
Sincerely.

No one is planning to create any scandals. I just didn't know about the Knights' intentions. I apologize for any inconvenience. Sincerely, General.
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