Inferno tactics. — Tactics

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5/16/2008 1:00 PM UTC

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I just realized what nonsense I wrote. 35 pikemen couldn't have arrived. The maximum is 20. I played the map a long time ago, so I don't remember what was there. Maybe the hero came from the dungeon, maybe there was some other hidden spot. But there definitely wasn't a second castle. I'll check now, and if I can, I'll upload the save file.

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5/16/2008 1:41 PM UTC

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Dirty player
Was that game with 66 demons played online or offline?

Спортсменом можешь ты не быть, но пыль в глаза пустить обязан!

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5/16/2008 3:35 PM UTC

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Dirty player
Was that game with 66 demons online or offline?

Of course, it was online. I just played against the computer. It turned out to be something like an offline game on a random map. I had to reload a couple of times. The save and the map from which it started are in the archive. If anyone is interested, there are also daily saves :D
Result: on days 1-2-5, I had 63 demons. I killed them all. I could have also killed the Pit Lords, but I didn't. They gave me a second Inferno castle as well. I didn't develop the castles and exchanged all the resources for gold to buy everything at once. I wouldn't do that online, of course; I would build prefectures and Efreet, and I would kill the demons in weeks 3 or 4. The map isn't very rich.

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5/16/2008 3:52 PM UTC

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Ah, a minimum Dragon Utopia ... Then that's clear. 10 demons from spearmen. You had 21 dogs. That's another 15 demons. Now imps. 61 + some amount with the hero. Let's say together it will be 105. That's another 3 demons. So far that's 28. Gogs. You have 33 of them + possibly whoever came with heroes. From this, you can make 12 demons. Well, 14 let's say.
In total, it comes to 42 demons. I counted the external dwellings of gogs and dogs, as you can see. Fine, probably not all 66 were slaughtered. Probably bought another 8 pieces. Well, in general, it almost worked out ...

A ring or a red potion could throw all these calculations into trash... It will turn out with some to spare. In general, the elixir of life and its individual components are wonderfully good for Inferno

Истинно говорю вам: 21 декабря 2012 года Земля налетит на небесную ось!

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A ring or a red vial can completely mess up all the calculations... It will result in an even larger surplus. In general, the elixir of life and its individual components are incredibly useful for Inferno.

EXACTLY!!! I remembered. In that game, the ring was available from the start :D. And in this one, I put a mercury bonus :mad:.

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5/17/2008 11:31 AM UTC

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Demons under a shield – a powerful attack force. The rest are just cannon fodder. After the battle, a few demons remained. My goal was simply to capture the Utopia. Then I just left the game.

A similar situation happened to me, but I was playing as Necropolis. They took all my castles and killed half of my skeletons. In desperation, I went into the Utopia with 200 skeletons and 20+ spearmen. It turned out to be the minimum requirement. I came out with 60-70 skeletons. The stats were around 15-8 attack/defense, expert in attack and defense, expert in shield, stone skin, and advanced bloodlust. I lost that game, but I captured the Utopia on principle. I also remember that I received a bag of gold for my feat in the Utopia. :(

No. Utopia: 7 green, 5 red, 2 gold, 1 black.

If I remember correctly, the minimum Utopia consists of: 8 green, 6 red, 2 gold, and 1 black dragons.

Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:

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If my memory serves me right, the minimum Dragon Utopia consists of: 8 green, 6 red, 2 gold and 1 black dragons.Strange as it may seem, your memory is failing you, and mine too :D
There are 8 green and 5 red. ;)

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9/11/2008 6:54 AM UTC

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Capturing Utopia and playing for 1-2 weeks are mentioned in different sentences :) People who just like to argue subconsciously distort the meaning of another person's words (even for themselves).

One great Heroes player, Stinger, captured three Utopias in the first week.
Last year, during training for the Heroes Bay vs. Heroes Community match, which ended 5-1 in our favor.

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2Forrest: Is it possible to view the save files or reports for this match? I tried to access the link provided by Gynnara, but it was blocked.

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2Forrest:
Or maybe we could look at the save files from this match?
I tried to access the link from Gynnara, but it was blocked.

Here is the thread about the match. It contains everything, including the save files. There are also save files on Heroescumunity, but the posts are in English.
http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?t=529

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Thanks!
By the way, Dragon Utopia units were taken for dungeons on 1, and one of them was for 3 blacks.

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2/9/2009 1:09 PM UTC

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Relying on Ifrits and Armageddon is questionable. Black dragons, gold dragons, phoenixes, and even basic units are significantly stronger than Ifrits and are immune to Armageddon. Besides other drawbacks, the city is too expensive. Archdevils with 200 hit points are not worth 4,500 coins (more expensive than stronger dragons and even two phoenixes). Their dwelling costs 35,000 (compared to 30,000 for Titans and Dragons), which is also not justified.

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2/9/2009 7:35 PM UTC

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Archdevils with 200 hit points are definitely not worth 4,500 coins (more expensive than stronger dragons and two phoenixes). Their dwelling costs 35,000 (compared to 30,000 for titans and dragons), which also seems excessive.

The game balance is off... the game balance.
Make the devils cheaper, and Inferno will dominate :D

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Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - Эмилия -

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Of course, focusing solely on Armageddon doesn't make sense; Inferno has many other advantages. One of them is the low cost of construction, requiring almost no resources (except for the Imps, which are rarely built in the early game).