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I disagree with you. Take any vampire movie, they have their own world, their own clan, and they are far from being mindless creatures who only need blood...
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A Lich is a warlock; being a noble warlock is possible, but not necessary. A vampire, on the other hand, is the pinnacle of undead "evolution." Their minds are free, and their bodies are strong and graceful. If I'm not mistaken, a classic vampire isn't even afraid of the sun; it's just that in daylight, it doesn't possess its special abilities and looks almost like an ordinary person.
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And in the ranks of my army, I already had vampires. They are very well done. They attack with a sword, hitting the enemy in the stomach, but when they die, they disintegrate like ash. In general, the current implementation is much better than, for example, Nargul:
So, it's a good idea.
Can I Play With Madness ?...
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They made it so that it uses a sword, let it use a sword, but then the question is, how does it restore its own life through the sword?
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A Lich is a spellcaster; being a noble spellcaster is possible, but not necessary. A Vampire, on the other hand, represents the pinnacle of undead "evolution." Their minds are free, their bodies are strong and graceful. If I'm not mistaken, a classic vampire isn't even afraid of the sun; it's just that in daylight, they don't possess their special abilities and look almost like ordinary people.
:eek: Vampire - the pinnacle of evolution?:confused: In Might and Magic 8, they had immunity to mind effects, while Liches have immunity to both mind and body effects, and also resistance to elements 20.
All vampires are afraid of the sun!:mad: That's why they are vampires. Play The Elder Scrolls III. They take damage from it, or in Might and Magic 8, the Necromancer's Guild invented amulets for vampires, and the head of the guild isn't Sandro, but some vampire who gave a quest to go to the Temple and find something that places darkness over the territory. Or Korbu, in the quest, it is said that unlike other vampires, he has awakened... a CONSCIENCE, which is not typical for vampires! A vampire is not a human; play The Elder Scrolls III, where they are hated, and you can distinguish them from humans by the shape of their head and their eyes. And if anyone should be considered the pinnacle of undead evolution, it's the Bone Dragon
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Magnus
:eek: A vampire is the pinnacle of evolution?:confused: In Might and Magic 8, they had immunity to mind control, while liches have immunity to both mind and body control, and also have 20 resistance to elements.
All vampires are afraid of the sun!:mad: That's why they are vampires. Play The Elder Scrolls III. They take damage from it, or in Might and Magic 8, the Necromancer's Guild invented amulets for vampires, and the head of the guild is not Sandro, but some vampire who gave a quest to go to the Temple of the Sun and find something that puts darkness over the territory. Or Korbu, in the quest it is said that unlike other vampires, he has awakened... CONSCIENCE, which is not typical for vampires! A vampire is not a human, play The Elder Scrolls III, they are hated there and can be distinguished from humans by the shape of their head and eyes. And if anyone can be considered the pinnacle of undead evolution, it is the bone dragon.
I must disagree, because you are only reasoning about vampires based on two game worlds, and as you know, there are many of them. The main one, as it seems to me, is the world of AD&D by Gary Gygax. Firstly, it appeared earlier and is based exclusively on mythological creatures. Secondly, it is the most detailed and has been edited three (already three and a half:D) times. So, there, vampires appear before us as noble persons, hating daylight, which is fatal for them. They are indifferent to garlic and silver, which cannot be said about holy water. By the way, I advise you to watch "Interview with the Vampire." This film best conveys their true (if one can express it that way:D) essence. And the image of them as monsters is all the machinations of Hollywood, to scare people:)
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:eek: A vampire is the pinnacle of evolution?:confused: In Might and Magic 8, they had immunity to mind control, while liches have immunity to both mind and body control, and also have 20 resistance to elements.
All vampires are afraid of the sun!:mad: That's why they are vampires. Play The Elder Scrolls III. They take damage from it, or in Might and Magic 8, the Necromancer's Guild invented amulets for vampires, and the head of the guild is not Sandro, but some vampire who gave a quest to go to the Temple of the Sun and find something that puts darkness over the territory. Or Corvus, in the quest it is said that unlike other vampires, he has awakened... a CONSCIENCE, which is not characteristic of vampires! A vampire is not a human, play The Elder Scrolls III, they are hated there and can be distinguished from humans by the shape of their head and eyes. And if anyone can be considered the pinnacle of undead evolution, it is the Bone Dragon.
I am not relying on game worlds, which are created however one wishes, but on mythology, from which it is clear that a vampire is a noble undead with free will. And sunlight does not kill vampires, but simply negates their superpowers. That is why they don't like it. As for the Bone Dragon, being big doesn't mean being the best; otherwise, in our world, whales would be considered the pinnacle of evolution.:D
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I must disagree, as you are only considering vampires based on two game worlds, and as we know, there are many. The most important one, in my opinion, is the AD&D world of Harry Gigax. Firstly, it appeared earlier and is based exclusively on mythological creatures. Secondly, it is the most detailed and has been edited three (already three and a half :D) times. So, in this world, vampires are presented as noble beings who hate daylight, which is fatal to them. They are indifferent to garlic and silver, but this cannot be said about holy water. By the way, I recommend watching "Interview with the Vampire." This film best conveys their true (if one can express it that way :D) essence. And the depiction of them as monsters is all the work of Hollywood, to scare people :)
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In the lower mythology of the peoples of Europe, a dead person who rises from the grave at night or appears in the form of a bat, sucking the blood of sleeping people, and causing nightmares. Vampires were "unclean" corpses - suicides, those who died prematurely, and those who died from vampire bites. It was believed that their bodies did not decompose in the graves, and their evil deeds could be stopped by driving an aspen stake into the vampire's body, beheading it, etc. Garlic, iron, bell ringing, and other things also served as protection against vampires
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Opinions differ on this issue. It's a shame that the fans haven't decided what they want. I voted for option 3, with teeth and a sword. But they'll only change it in the add-on, and there's still a long time until then...
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Magnus
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In the lower mythology of the peoples of Europe
Please explain, I didn't quite understand what this is:confused:
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Please explain, because I didn't quite understand what it is:confused:
In the lower mythology of the peoples of Europe, i.e., a kind of superstition in Medieval Europe.
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:eek: A vampire is the pinnacle of evolution?:confused: In Might and Magic 8, they had immunity to mind effects, while liches have immunity to both mind and body effects, and also have 20 resistance to elements.
All vampires are afraid of the sun!:mad: That's why they are vampires. Play The Elder Scrolls III. They take damage from it, or in Might and Magic 8, the Necromancer's Guild invented amulets for vampires, and the head of the guild is not Sandro, but some vampire who gave a quest to go to the Temple of the Sun and find something that puts darkness over the territory. Or Korbu, in the quest it is said that unlike other vampires, he has awakened... a CONSCIENCE, which is not typical for vampires! A vampire is not a human, play The Elder Scrolls III, they are hated there, and you can distinguish them from humans by the shape of their head and eyes. And if anyone should be considered the pinnacle of undead evolution, it is the Bone Dragon.
Bone Dragon?! This was a big mistake by Nival to put him in the game; a Nazgûl on a snake looks much better than a Bone Dragon (stupid, fragile creatures, their place is on levels 2-3, but not on level 4)....
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Regarding the vampire with a sword—IMHO—it's a perfectly normal option... I recently watched "Underworld 2" and they fought quite well with swords there... As for realism... for example, let's give him a fang attack.... say he bites a hydra... and let's assume he kills it... then according to "medieval legends of the peoples of Europe," after a couple of turns, the hydra carcass sprawled across 4 cells should rise from the ground with fangs and sharp ears and go start biting its former comrades.... in the end, the balance will be completely lost :)
Let him swing his sword!!! it's a battle!!! and then he can drink blood in his free time away from the "scrap"... we aren't saying that demons should bring a vat of tar to the battlefield, are we???:)))... or that druids should walk around with a bag of fly agarics and seeds of Uzbekistani grass....:)))
IMHO—the sword—and that's it!!!!
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it’s still better to launch two attacks at once.
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Actually, you could experiment with combining these attacks. For example, it attacks with a sword, and when a unit is destroyed, it drinks blood and replenishes its losses. Such a feature would fundamentally change the combat tactics of vampires. Otherwise, they are already too powerful.
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