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We, namely Warmonger and Primus, decided to organize a duel tournament in 2008 called "Between Light and Darkness." The winners of the tournament will receive: $50 for first place, $30 for second place, $20 for third place, and a consolation prize in the form of a King's Bounty: The Legend disc, or something else of the same value (approximately 300-350 rubles) for fourth place!!! 1. Tournament Idea To create a fast and very interesting tournament in which victory requires not only skill in playing with certain heroes, but also a good strategy. 2. Tournament Motto "Between light and darkness, stay true to yourself." 3. Tournament Rules Games are played on the latest official version of the game. Currently, this is Heroes of Might and Magic 5: Tribes to the East 3.0. By default, the game is played on the Ubi server. By agreement, the game can be played through the Hamachi program. The "Onslaught!" and "Abyss" maps are prohibited for selection! Tournament judges: Warmonger, Primus. The winner of each battle must обязательно make a replay and send it to H5HomoHomini@mail.ru. Group stage: Each player plays 4 games against each opponent in the group. One player creates two games, and the other player creates two games. The player highlighted in red in the table creates the first game. The player who created the game chooses the map on which the game will be played, then the second player chooses a hero (from their list of allowed heroes), then the first player chooses a hero (from their list of allowed heroes), and the game begins. In the next game, the roles are reversed. In the next game, the heroes who played in the previous games (within the same match) do not participate, meaning that any hero can be used only once during the entire match against an opponent. Based on the results of the match (4 games), the player receives 2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 0 points for a loss. A topic for reports will be created in a separate thread. After all games in the group have been played, the places are determined by the total number of points. The top four players advance to the final stage. In case of a tie in points, the places are determined by: a) the results of head-to-head duels; b) the highest number of wins; c) the best difference between wins and losses in all duels; d) the coefficient; e) the date of the last match. 1/8 finals Before the start, each participant crosses out 16 heroes that the opponent cannot play. The game is played until 3 wins. Hero selection is from the opponent's list of allowed heroes. The player who placed higher in their group creates the first game. The first player chooses the map, then the second player chooses a hero, then the first player chooses a hero, and the game begins. In the next game, the roles are reversed, and so on. In the next game, the heroes who played in the previous games do not participate. In the 5th game, the winner of the previous battle creates the game. Quarterfinals: Before the start, each participant indicates 14 heroes that the opponent cannot play. The game is played until 3 wins. Hero selection is from the opponent's list of allowed heroes. The player who placed higher in their group creates the first game. The first player chooses the map, then the second player chooses a hero, then the first player chooses a hero, and the game begins. In the next game, the roles are reversed, and so on. In the next game, the heroes who played in the previous games do not participate. In the 5th game, the winner of the previous battle creates the game. Semifinals: Before the start, each participant indicates 12 heroes that the opponent cannot play. The game is played until 4 wins. Hero selection is from the opponent's list of allowed heroes. The player who placed higher in their group creates the first game. The first player chooses the map, then the second player chooses a hero, then the first player chooses a hero, and the game begins. In the next game, the roles are reversed, and so on. In the next game, the heroes who played in the previous games do not participate. In the 7th game, the winner of the previous battle creates the game. Final: Before the start, each participant indicates 11 heroes that the opponent cannot play. The game is played until 5 wins. Hero selection is from the opponent's list of allowed heroes. The player who placed higher in their group creates the first game. The first player chooses the map, then the second player chooses a hero, then the first player chooses a hero, and the game begins. In the next game, the roles are reversed, and so on. In the next game, the heroes who played in the previous games do not participate. In the 9th game, the winner of the previous game creates the game. 3. Tournament Registration To participate in this tournament, you need to register on www.heroesworld.ru and leave an application in the following format: Nickname on HeroesWorld Nickname on Ubi ICQ number Approximate time available on the ubi.com server (specify hours and days of the week) Example: Player Play-er 000-000-000 Playing time is almost any, but you need to agree in advance. 4. Tournament Regulations Group stage: May 19 – June 4 Final stage: June 5 - June 18 5. Game Settings: Game mode - duel Dynamic battle - disabled This is a rated tournament! Registration is open until May 18 at 24:00 Moscow time! Since the tournament takes place during the exam period, a delay of a few days is possible. After registration, the tournament table with random factions will be posted. TOURNAMENT on HMM V: Between Light and Darkness Number Participant 1 KillAndAction 2 ValgallaWolf 3 Neo122007 4 Warmonger 5 Kitsune 6 Necromancher 7 absd 8 VICH 89 9 ArhLich 10 Alex Ghost 11 Green DooDLeZ 12 A1coho1!c 13 WOLVARINE 14 KRYUGER_666_13 15 strongit 16 Adelaida 17 Primus 18 Alex_R 19 chudo_udo 20 Vsev
Final Table

1/8

1/4

1/2

3rd place

final

winner

Neo122007 2
absd 3
absd 0ArchLich 0ArchLich 5chudo_ud0 4Alex_Ghost :smile49:
Warmonger 1
ArchLich 3
ArchLich 3
chudo_ud0 +
Necromancher -
chudo_ud0chudo_ud0 4
Alex_R -
Adelaida -
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VICH_89 3
KillAndAction 1
VICH_89 1Primus 3Primus 4Alex_Ghost 5
Primus 3
WOLVARINE 0
Primus 3
Vsev 3
A1coho1!c 1
Vsev 2Alex_Ghost 4
Alex_Ghost 3
ValgallaWolf 0
Alex_Ghost 3

Regulations borrowed from http://forum.heroesleague.ru
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The table has been updated; congratulations to everyone who made it to the quarterfinals.
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Major Whirl, since you've taken on the task of managing the tables, you'll be responsible for the table for our tournament. :)
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Since the tournament has been significantly prolonged, I decided that the quarter-finals must be played by June 25th, inclusive. Those who don't manage to do so will be eliminated. For any questions, please contact me personally via ICQ.
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I don't understand this rule at all: "In the last game, the winner of the second-to-last battle creates the game." :smile51: Does this mean it's more advantageous to take last place in the group? What was the point of trying then? If you take last place, you don't have to worry – you'll get an advantage in all the other games. In general, it should have been the other way around, encouraging people to try and play well in groups. In the League, the rules state that the order is maintained until the end, but the last game takes place on Obsidian. I think this is clearly a mistake:smile17:
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I completely don't understand this line in the rules: "In the last game, the winner of the second-to-last battle creates the game." :smile51: Does this mean it's more advantageous to take last place in the group? What was the point of trying then? If you take last place, you don't have to worry – you'll get an advantage in all the other games. In fact, it should have been the other way around, to encourage people to try and play well in the groups. In the League, the rules state that the order is maintained until the end, but the last game takes place on Obsidian. I think this is clearly a mistake:smile17:
Why do people start talking about flaws in the rules after they've registered for the tournament and played many matches? First, you should read the rules, and then register:D I won't change anything now. I didn't force anyone to play. Everyone was perfectly aware of everything when they signed up for the tournament. If you don't want to, don't play. This is my first tournament, and no one is immune to mistakes. The rules are the rules; I thought it was necessary to make them this way. You have to play and win, not argue about flaws that I don't see, because these are the rules that people decided to follow when they signed up for the tournament. If you're not happy with something, dear Dexterwar, you can always decline to participate. In fact, I'm starting to think that you're just very afraid of Archlich, so you're nitpicking the rules. Why didn't you talk about "flaws" in the 1/8 finals? The answer is clear – you were confident in your abilities. And now, you're probably getting nervous:(. Archlich, Ghost, and I don't shout about flaws; we just enjoy the tournament. And I sincerely wish the same for you;)!
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Dear Primus, you probably want us to keep quiet about the mistakes and praise you. Well, if that's the case, I have no objections. If I see a mistake, I'll write about it, and I don't care when or where I find it. This is actually a discussion about the tournament. And you shouldn't try to silence me. If I wanted to withdraw from the tournament or was afraid (I wonder what of?), I would have said so and withdrawn. Notice that I didn't suggest withdrawing or changing the rules; I just wrote that, in my opinion, something is wrong. I hope it will be corrected in the future. If you disagree, argue your point and don't just talk nonsense. I'm not always right, but I will continue to express my opinion, so please excuse me... P.S. I confess, I didn't read the rules carefully. If I had been more attentive, I wouldn't have worried, and I would have easily taken last place in the group without much effort. I didn't notice it earlier because I hadn't played until the semi-finals, and I definitely won't be nervous; let others worry instead. :smile06: :smile06: :smile06:
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Dear Primus, I guess you want us to keep quiet about the mistakes and praise you. Well, if that's the case, then I have no objections. If I see a mistake, I'll write about it, and I don't care when or where I find it. This is actually a discussion about the tournament. And you shouldn't try to silence me. If I wanted to withdraw from the tournament or was afraid (of what, I wonder?), I would have said so and withdrawn. Notice that I didn't suggest withdrawing or changing the rules; I just wrote that, in my opinion, something is wrong. I hope it will be corrected in the future. If you disagree, argue your point and don't just talk nonsense. I'm not always right, but I will continue to express my opinion, so please excuse me...
P.S. I admit I didn't read the rules carefully. If I had been more attentive, I wouldn't have worried, and I would have easily taken last place in the group without much effort. I didn't notice it before because I didn't play until the semi-finals, and I definitely won't be nervous; let others worry.:smile06: :smile06: :smile06:
These are mistakes for you, but not for others. Maybe I initially intended the rules to be this way! I repeat, I didn't force anyone to play in this tournament. No one but you complained about the playoff rules. And how can you criticize the rules in general? If you don't like them, don't play; there's no problem.
You don't need to praise me; I'm doing fine without it! No one is trying to silence you, so don't attack me for no reason. It's too late to change the rules; you should have resolved all issues before the tournament started. And I don't see a difference between first place and fourth place. Many players who took high places calmly won their matches without any stress, so play and win.
P.S. I understand everything you wanted to tell me. I think further discussion is pointless because we have different points of view!
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These are your issues, but not others'. Maybe I designed the rules this way from the start! I repeat, I didn't force anyone to participate in this Tournaments. No one but you complained about the playoff rules. And how can you criticize the rules in the first place? If you don't like them, don't play; there's no problem.
You don't need to praise me; I'm doing fine without it! :) No one is silencing you, so don't attack me for no reason. It's too late to change the rules; you should have discussed all the issues before the Tournaments started. And I don't see any difference between first and fourth place. Many players who placed high won their matches easily, so play and win.
P.S. I understand everything you wanted to tell me. I think further discussion is pointless because we have different points of view!
No, you don't have any point of view on this matter, as far as I understand. You didn't explain anything; you just introduced them without thinking. :smile13: And then you took a defensive stance – I'm right because I'm right, and I have more rights! And why repeat the same thing in two responses? I already understood about participation. This is the first and last Tournaments you'll see me in. And as for no one else wanting to play, I explained the reason why I think the rules are wrong. You didn't provide any arguments, only emotions. Your entire logic boils down to the fact that you have some kind of unique point of view, and you don't see the difference? But I see it very clearly because I've played in many more similar Tournaments than you.
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No, I don't think you have any point of view. You haven't explained anything, why you entered it this way. I understand that you just wrote it without thinking:smile13:. And why repeat the same thing in two answers? I already understood about the participation. This is the first and last tournament where I play. And the fact that no one wanted to participate, I think I clearly explained the reason why I consider the rules to be incorrect. You haven't provided any arguments, only emotions. All the logic boils down to the fact that you have some kind of excellent point of view, you don't see the difference? But I see the difference very well, because I have played in similar tournaments much more than you.
I created the rules consciously. Can't you understand that yet? I wanted to and made such a regulation. Maybe they are a little flawed, but that doesn't mean that you can't play by them. You, of all people, are complaining, Dexterwar? I don't doubt that you have played in more tournaments than I have. And you have much more experience. And your opinion is very valuable to me. But I will still stick to my opinion, although I will take your comments into account. And in which tournaments and where you play is up to you. And I don't understand your logic about not participating in my tournaments anymore.:( The conclusion is obvious - either these rules are too ugly for you, or it's because of your dislike for me.
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Now that’s something constructive. I didn’t say the rules were wrong. It’s just a small nuance (or, as I called it, a flaw – words, words... :). I provided arguments as to why, in my opinion, similar options should be avoided in the future. If I receive a response without an explanation as to why my option is not even being considered, then I don’t see any reason to continue playing. However, I think the forum is designed to test various points of view. If you respond with arguments, for example, stating that it was introduced to make the game more interesting for weaker players, then that’s some kind of logic. There’s no need to take criticism as an attack; criticism doesn’t mean that everything needs to be changed immediately. It’s simply needed to avoid misunderstandings in the future and improve some aspect of the game. And also, hundreds may not notice, but one person will, and then those hundreds will agree with them.
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Criticism doesn't mean that everything needs to be changed immediately; it's just needed to avoid misunderstandings in the future and improve some aspect of the game.
So, what's the problem?:) I don't understand:) Create a thread about the rules for tournaments... current and upcoming...
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Topic closed. Dexterwar and I have reached an understanding!
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Today is already July 16th, and the tournament was supposed to end on June 18th. I apologize, but this is completely unacceptable. Therefore, please play the final match urgently, no later than the 18th. All prize winners should send me their home address via ICQ so that I can send the prizes by mail or some other method.
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Finally, the tournament is over. I want to congratulate all the winners on their good results and wish the others success in future battles. The tournament turned out to be interesting and intriguing. The rules for the playoffs were a little lacking, which negatively affected some players. I hope that in the future there will be a more balanced regulation. Good luck to everyone, and see you at the next tournaments!
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The tournament is over; congratulations to the winner, and I want to thank everyone who participated in our tournament. Prizes will be awarded soon, and I will close this thread and archive it.
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