Posts from The most powerful warrior.

no one from their own side is killed by an overpowered attack if you aim normally, without making jerky movements with the cursor...
shooting can be useful when fighting melee creeps. instead of skipping a turn, you shoot. it's not that useful, but it's better than nothing.
the question is pointless.

If you play as an Elf, learn Light magic and support your archers as much as you can. They will be taken down otherwise... Expert Chaos is not very effective! They will shoot down: druids, berserkers, demonesses, and even vampires, although a little less effectively. Lizards are also vulnerable to arrows! The main thing is to shoot them down first... And this is only at level 4, as we are talking about them. And in general, they can also take down higher-level units quite well for their level!

and with what? with punishing strike and stone skin... if they happen to appear...
and since when has Expert Chaos stopped being effective? for a hero with 1 spellpower, yes, I agree, Chaos is not needed:)
in general, stories about shooting down Chaos units like partridges are already becoming less and less related to reality. I'm not arguing, archers are good, but there's no need to become the second MZA:)

Chaos magic is particularly effective against Warlocks, and it's unlikely that light magic will help against it.

No, killing goblins shouldn't be the main objective. It's right to focus on someone else. But it's better to eliminate them quickly, as they take too long to kill. Regarding the cyclops' ranged attack – it's much better than the current implementation. Okay, you can approach, attack, and cast spells, but it's noticeable how much it weakens them numerically.
Regarding archers – I've said everything and will continue to say that they are the best tier 3 unit.

and of course, almost all Tier 4 units will leave the elves in a very bad state. Elves are good, ideal for the initial push, and they can also effectively cut down enemy ranks in the final stages, but they are by no means almighty.
I repeat, it's a pointless argument.

You don't need to be so sure about it:smile10:. As Cr@zy Wolf already said, elves are the strongest Tier 3 unit, and they are indeed much better than many Tier 4 units:smile54:. In general, most of the ranged units in the fifth installment are very useful (of course, if there are many of them and if they have good initiative), because at the beginning of the battle they can effectively bombard the strongest enemy unit, and do so in a way that leaves nothing but a wet spot:smile10:. In short, respect to all ranged units:smile02:!

2 Mutare Drakke
You are greatly exaggerating. Archers cannot be so all-powerful that a single attack can wipe out an entire enemy stack when the forces are equal. Just like the archers, who are supposedly stronger than level 4 units. Yes, they are strong. No one has ever doubted the fact that they are among the strongest of their kind (level). However, they are very weak. In melee combat, their strength is reduced by 4 times (!), not 2, as is usually the case. Their defense is minimal, and their health is also low. I'm not even talking about their vulnerability to Dispel, which can force them to engage in melee combat or simply wait. Regarding level 4. By strength, I mean the overall effectiveness of a unit during a battle. Who are they stronger than? Maybe mages? Or lizards? Or maybe they will be more useful than griffins? Nightmares are also very, very strong, and they are one of the key units of Inferno. And we shouldn't forget about vampires. I don't even know how to compare them, but it is clear to me that these creatures are no less effective in battle than archers, and often, they can even be more useful. At least, they are not as susceptible to Dispel and do not lose their advantages so easily.

2 Major Whirlwind Firstly, yes, I did write that archers are good, but I also added that they are strong if there are many of them. I also agree about the elven archers; they are indeed helpless in melee combat, as well as when affected by the "Confusion" spell, but overall they are very good (unless both of these factors are present in the battle). You could even call them one of the best archer units (again, if you ignore their low resistance and meager health). And just a note, Nightmares are level 5 creatures.

As Cr@zy Wolf already said, elves are the strongest tier 3 unit, and they really are much better than many tier 4 units.

As Vikh and I already said, they are "not at all better" than tier 4 monsters, with the possible exception of the dwarven one. They might be more useful or convenient, but they are definitely not "better and stronger." Of course, when they are standing in the corner of the field, with a stone diagonally in front of them, they can outshoot lizards and griffins (ha, but not royal griffins). But, for the umpteenth time, they are in no way better than mages, druids, vampires, shamans, and other such nonsense, because they perform different functions in battle. Well, you can still compare them to mages or druids, but an archmage will deal much more total damage with a fireball, and a druid will kill a significant number of archers with just one lightning bolt.
Finally, if you really want to compare someone to someone else, compare them increase by increase. That would be fair, wouldn't it? Compare 4 druids and 8 (or however many... roughly that many) archers. Look at their effectiveness both when divided into many stacks and in one. Compare their damage and hit points. And maybe you'll understand why druids are tier 4, and elves are tier 3, and not the other way around. This is also true for any tier 4 troops. And for succubi and temptresses, and for clubmen, and for lizards. Maybe then it will occur to you... the incorrectness of this kind of judgment.
In that case, you might think about comparing troops not from the point of view of "a battle in an open field between neutrals," but as a battle between the armies of two heroes. And here's the paradox: this is exactly what we want you to do. In this case, archers, being under cover, can significantly thin out the ranks of vampires. If they don't get hit by forgetfulness/blindness/mirror image/hypnosis/plague, and so on, of course, but that's exactly what they will get. They can also shoot at lizards. And during a meteor shower, they will try to hide behind the thin back of a revived oak. And with archmages (even simple ones) - it's just great. In addition to them, the melee units surrounding them also help the elves. So please, finally, stop with the childish nonsense and face the facts. Not based on how you killed 20 peasants near a mine with 10 archers in one volley, but objectively. It is impossible to compare them to tier 4, and that's it. And when you start to have obsessive thoughts about taking out an entire tier 4 stack with one volley, remember my words about increase or magic. Maybe it will help.

I wrote that archers are good, but I also added that they are strong if there are many of them.

And here I just laughed. No offense, but the phrase is completely childish. Can you name me any troops that become weaker in large numbers?
But please, no far-fetched examples like "100 fairies will suffer much greater losses from a cave troll's attack than 10."

It's very difficult to compare units that are different in type (for example, archers with flying units, etc.), and even more so when they are from different levels. There are many different situations in battle, and it is impossible to determine the most powerful unit because there is BALANCE.

I wrote that archers are good, but I also added that they are strong if there are many of them.

Yes, I agree, I made a slight mistake, or rather, I didn't express my opinion correctly. So, thank you, Loken, for correcting me. To be honest, I was in a hurry and wrote whatever came to mind when I read this nonsense, and I actually laughed at myself. But despite all this, I still prefer elven archers.

Guys, I'll be honest and say this for the second time: in my opinion, the best unit is the one that can be used in different ways and is suitable for a wider range of tactics. Therefore, I think that:
Level 1: Trapper is beneficial.
Level 2: Gnomish Archers (standard upgrade).
Level 3: Monk and Spirit (the scariest opponent for me).
Level 4: Vampire or Demoness, Mage.
Level 5: Executioner.
Level 6: Cave Demon and End, Earl.
Level 7: I'd like to say Cyclops, but they made it weak because it's impossible to control when it shoots and when it attacks (if Monk, please tell me how). So, Seraphim and Prismatic Dragon.

P.S.: If I made a mistake about which unit is best at each level, please forgive me. Now, compared to Heroes of Might and Magic III, they've added a lot more magic and abilities to the units, so in general, they've all become useful for their respective tactics.

You shouldn't attack like that (if possible, please tell me how).

Hold down the control key and attack in melee...

So, let's summarize. The strongest monster in this topic has already been determined. It is undoubtedly the phoenix, specifically the one that is not summoned. If we consider "summoned" creatures, then the strongest is the Avatar, summoned by Arantir. Excluding all neutral creatures and magic, the choice, for obvious reasons, remains with level 7, where the favorites are archangels, titans, and black dragons, as well as their upgraded versions. This topic has reached this conclusion several times already :D Is it worth continuing these pointless discussions? I don't think so, so I'm closing the topic. The best unit at level n can still be discussed in the appropriate topics, but not here.