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18 years ago
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Better late than never, so I am announcing registration for the tournament

SEASONS, spring 2008 season

  1. The tournament is held on Platinum version 4.0 (playing on version 3.2 is permitted), via Hamachi.
  2. The tournament is seasonal; 2 game seasons will be held during the year (spring and autumn), meaning we will have separate winners for the seasons, and an absolute champion of the year will be determined based on the results of both seasons.
  3. Tournament participants must register in this thread; to do so, you need to declare your desire to participate and provide your ICQ number.
  4. Table of registered tournament participants:

    No.NickICQ-UIN
    01Nagan-4452-003-755
    02RAPER422-962-546
    03vbn252-O39-393
    04GRAMM421-057-869
    05Uran484-056-100
    06Dudge144-060-433
    07HYVET381-440-095
    08ewgeniy375-572-427
    09invisible472-101-962
    10Cheri@474-758-648
    11Rhox Pit - In sake of LM413-405-122 471-401-475
    12Bob I.121-998-526
  5. All games in the tournament will be 1x1, on duel maps.
    - Just before the start of the tournament, a series of maps (75*75) will be posted, some of which will be used for the tournament. Difficulty 200%
  6. Tournament system: a maximum of 12 players will be divided into four groups of 3 people; each player will play one game with the other players in their group, totaling 2 games. For a win in each game, the participant is awarded 3 rating points (RP). The 2 players who score the most RP advance to the quarterfinals, where they are divided into 2 groups of 4 players. Two people from each of the two groups advance to the semifinals. And the winners meet in the final.
  7. All achievements will be reflected in a rating table, which will indicate: player nick, their place, number of RP, number of games played, and number of wins.
  8. Disputed points related to an equal number of RP are resolved by comparing the total skills of the final heroes in the game and through additional games (whereas in the semifinals and finals, only via additional games). No RP are awarded for additional games, but they will be reflected in the table in the columns for games played and wins.
  9. Race draw: Conflux is excluded (however, if you happen to encounter a Conflux in the game, you may develop it, with the exception of building the university and buying or developing a Conflux hero); 8 races remain. Each player is given the opportunity to choose which town they will play in a specific game, provided that one race can be played only once per season.
    The organizer will conduct a draw in pairs in advance using a special program to determine the red and blue player in each pair.
    A player must notify the organizer of their choice of town at least 24 hours before the game, as well as choose a hero. Playing with identical towns is permitted; if a situation arises where players also chose identical heroes, the organizer reserves the right of first choice for the red player.
  10. The draw for the town in additional games is conducted according to the "traditional scheme," i.e., participants take turns (starting with red) naming the towns they would not like to play, and eventually, players choose a town to play from the remaining 3 towns. Such a draw is conducted online, either in the mini-chat on our resource or via ICQ; the presence of the tournament organizer is mandatory for this.
  11. ATTENTION TO REGULAR TOURNAMENT PLAYERS: starting this year, a new principle for choosing the map on which the game will take place is introduced: players determine the map themselves by "crossing out" from the list of maps attached to the post. First, players cross out those maps they have already played on within this tournament; then, starting with red, they take turns crossing out one map at a time from the remaining list until only one remains—the game will take place on that last map (if no maps remain after crossing out those already played, the crossing out starts over from the full list of maps). Red creates the game and must make a save of the first day (to verify the authenticity of the map if necessary). To resolve disagreements promptly, before a presumed winning battle, the player must make a save and send it to the organizer. (Saves must be kept until you are sure that this game has been counted). Also, each player in a pair must provide a report of victory/defeat in a special thread within 2 days after the game according to an approximate scheme:
    Player1 (Castle, starting hero, hero who became main) def Player2 (Castle, starting hero, hero who became main) date of victory

    Example and template for convenience:

    Player1 (Tower, Nella, Tazar) def Player2 (Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 133

    Built titans on the 1st week in Castle, plus off-map titans, plus Tazar, so I was able to break the Dragon Utopia on the 2nd week, then opened 4 cans (2,1,3,4), arrived with 10 angels and won!

    thanks for the game!
    In case of connection loss or game crash, the last auto-save is loaded. Players are required to exactly repeat all their moves up to the moment of connection loss or single crash.
  12. PROHIBITED:
    • attacking the opponent during the first 8 days
    • red attacking on the first day of the week with offspring born on that day
    • choosing: Sir Mullich, Adele, Roland, Solmir, Kira, Aislin, Tant, Isra, Vidomina, Alamar, Jedit, Deemir. If these heroes come to you in a game, you may use them only until their level increases by 2 compared to what it was at the moment of acquisition. Upon reaching this barrier, you are required to delete the hero before the end of your turn
    • selling artifacts above their real value.
    • recruiting neutral units (except games on the Desert_Tour map), digging for the grail
  13. Turn duration limit is 4 minutes.
  14. One round of games will last 1 week, i.e., during this time players must play 1 game; games should be arranged in a special thread, and both players must post their agreement with the given time. The time must be coordinated with the organizer. If for any reason you cannot play at the agreed time, you must notify your opponent at least 24 hours in advance—not just by writing a private message or email, but by receiving notification that they have received your message.
    If a player does not play the game within a week, a technical defeat is awarded to them. If a situation arises where a player was forced to miss a game due to the opponent's fault, a victory is awarded to them and a technical defeat to the culprit.
    In case of failure to appear for the game at the appointed time, a technical defeat is recorded for the player. A delay of no more than 60 min is permitted.
  15. If you see that the game is hopeless—do not torture your opponent and agree to the loss.
  16. Winners for the seasons and the absolute champion based on two seasons will be awarded medals under their avatars, as well as t-shirts with the ХВ logo (in the winner's size).
  17. All disputed points are decided by the organizer, so I ask you to notify them of such occurrences promptly.
  18. For violation of rules in the game, a technical defeat will be given; for cheating (which is obviously prohibited)—permanent disqualification
  19. The organizers reserve the right to make any changes to the rules in case of unforeseen/force majeure situations.

Starting groups
GROUP № 1
Nagan-4
Uran
Bob I
GROUP № 2
RAPER
Dudge
ewgeniy
GROUP № 3
vbn
HYVET
GRAMM
GROUP № 4
invisible
Rhox
Cheri@

You can find out who your opponent is here /topic/at/174891/
Reports should be written here /topic/4200/

This tournament is official.
Registration applications for the tournament and questions about its conduct should be left in this thread.
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18 years ago
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"Desert_Tour" should be removed from the list of maps altogether. We'll play it in the next season after we've thoroughly tested it. I don't have the ability to upload the old version right now, so we'll simply exclude this map from this season without a replacement.
18 years ago
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I apologize. I miscalculated my time and won't be able to participate in the tournament. If there are any players who want to take my place, I'll gladly give it to them, or I simply ask that my opponents in the group be awarded technical victories.
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18 years ago
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Rhox;175620
I apologize. But I miscalculated my time and won't be able to participate in the tournament. If anyone is willing to play, I'll give them my spot, or simply ask that my opponents in the group be awarded technical victories.
It's a real shame.:( I wanted to play against you.
Although there is a positive side, you've given me a spot in the 2nd round:)
In reply to Аделаида
18 years ago
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Uran and I agreed to play on May 10th at 9:30 PM on the Outer Limits map. We didn't discuss which factions to use, though...
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18 years ago
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Although, there is a positive side, you gave me the opportunity to participate in the 2nd round.
Don't get too cocky yet, because there might be a participant to replace Rox by the evening :D I've offered it to several players, and if they don't respond by tomorrow, well, what can you do:smile39:

Added 13 hours 55 minutes ago
Excuse my language, but I'm fed up with all the Heroes players on this forum (this doesn't apply to Rox, there are different situations and they can be understood)!!! Even if you don't like fixes (I don't particularly like them myself). Is it really that hard to play a few games in the tournament?!!! If you don't like fixes, just play without them!!! It's an official tournament, with official prizes, ranking, honor, and all that! A hundred players are competing for the ranking, so if you don't like fixes, just play a few games without them!!! A tournament is being organized for you, and the organizer is spending their personal time... Is it really that hard?! Some people play online for almost days on end! And what, won't there be at least a few players who can't play in the tournament?!! The qualifying round only requires TWO GAMES!!! Is it really that hard to play at least two games?!!! I had such plans for the next year... Like, with the help of well-known Heroes players, to create a joint international tournament with various resources. What kind of international tournament can we even talk about if there aren't even 12 potential participants on one of the largest Heroes forums in the world to hold at least an internal online tournament!!! Instead, all you read on the intra-clan subforum is a bunch of nonsense: how we are all so nice and fluffy, dozens of clans, various dubious organizations, communities, who only know how to talk about how they are the best, unbeatable, and all that! Play better and more, instead of just talking about who is cooler!
I told Adelaide recently that 24 participants (how many there were in the last seasonal tournament) is just ridiculous, and that we need to prepare for the fact that there will be at least fifty in the current one. And now I'm reading the forum and I'm ashamed of my own words that we CAN'T EVEN GET 12! Apparently, all the players just need a "chit-chat" section where they can choose Mr. HW, as well as an inter-clan section where they can talk about which clan is subjectively the best, and also we need to create a special section where they can discuss whose "thing" is longer and thicker! There will be no international tournament, competitions, or any other nonsense. Everyone go to the general forum to finally determine: "which level 1 creature is the best and why?!"

Please don't delete my post, because I don't know how it's worse than most of the posts that are being spammed in various important topics! If it is still deleted, then this will be my last post on this forum!
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18 years ago
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What's there to delete? Everything was written correctly. But we're not robots; we learn through trial and error. At one point, I also thought that third-tier heroes were doomed. And what happened? I joined this forum, found friends who love the game as much as I do. Then I shared a link to this resource with my old friends, and they joined too. After me, people from Moscow and Simferopol came here, and these are major centers for the game with a long history, which means that people there also care about the game. Look how many people are playing random games now, and the skill level of the players is constantly increasing. It's always harder to play fixed maps; you have to pay attention to the maps, so there should be fewer people. Before, there was no alternative – only fixed maps. But now, people can choose what they want to play, and that's a good thing. I looked at the standings of the first tournaments, and there was some interesting competition, with 24 people playing. But I noticed how many technical defeats there were. This means either no-shows or rule violations. So, the skill level of many players was hardly high. I just looked at the nicknames – many of these people were already gone from the forum when I joined. That is, they played for a while and left, and naturally, they didn't set any goals to improve their game, and that's their right. So, what's wrong with these people? Let there be fewer people, but more serious ones. Then less experienced players can learn to play fixed maps, especially if they all provide reports, and strong players can come to the resource if they see that people are playing seriously. I just played against Bob I; he's from Kyiv, like you. We played for two weeks, but it was a great match, and I lost, by the way. He's a good player. I wish there were more like him. There are many such people – old players from ToHa, many from St. Petersburg, and also people from other regions. So, everything is fine; the tournament will be good. If the people participating in the tournament stay, there is a chance to invite another 5-6 strong players for fixed maps by the fall and further strengthen the roster for the seasonal tournament.
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18 years ago
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To the invisible winner on Victory Day! In your post, you address the players and even indirectly reproach them (and me, therefore) for being lazy. A public statement requires a public response; silence and censorship only drive the problem inward. I believe it would be wrong not to respond to you, whom I hold in high regard. In essence: When we tried, perhaps foolishly and possibly too assertively, but very sincerely, to discuss, learn more about the rules, and even criticize – the posts were deleted, and we (in particular, Dirty Player) were politely dismissed – something along the lines of "no one is forcing you to play; the tournament is voluntary." After our posts were deleted, the question of the content of Dirty Player's post becomes irrelevant. The main complaint is directed at the actions of the organizers – a dangerous precedent is being created, where posts (note – not spam or flame, I emphasize – this is IMPORTANT) that do not align with the organizers' opinion are deleted (the justifications may be different – expediency, irrelevance...). Next time, if your opinion doesn't align, what then? Is it right to silence you? I simply want the opinions of the players to be heard (not corrections of factual inaccuracies, etc., but specifically regarding the organization, the rules – there was no preliminary discussion of this tournament), even if they don't align with the organizers' opinion – I believe this is not the case here! IMHO – it's wrong. P.S. Most likely, your post will be left untouched (what reason is there to delete it? – you are doing the organizers' job by attracting players; you will even be praised – "good lad"), while mine – because it doesn't align with the organizers' point of view and is generally deemed unnecessary from the perspective of creating unwanted hype – my post may be deleted; want to bet? to Nagan:
Look how many people are playing random games now, and the skill level of the players is constantly increasing.
The community requires attention and basic respect
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18 years ago
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Yesterday, the castle and the hero informed Adelaide, and I recommend it to the opponent as well))
I'll be waiting at 9:30 PM.
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18 years ago
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2 Uran: Ready to finish the remaining maps today at 9 PM, and I'm available to play tomorrow. 2 Uran, 2 Bob I: Good luck to both of you today.
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18 years ago
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Rhox;175620
I apologize. But I miscalculated my time and won't be able to participate in the tournament. If anyone is interested in taking my place, I'll gladly give it up, or simply ask that my opponents in the group be awarded technical victories.
If it's not too late, I could replace Rhox in this tournament. I've already learned a few things about random maps, and I'd like to learn about fixed maps as well.
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18 years ago
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"Tournament 'Seasons', spring season 2008'
opponent Uran
map Outer Limits
my Castle Rampart
hero Ivor
May 10 at 21:30 Moscow time"
In reply to Аделаида
18 years ago
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We talked to Uran. The map is Universal Commander, and I'm playing as Blue. I'll take Rampart, and my hero will be Yanova. If my opponent takes the same castle and the same hero, then my choice will be Ivor. There's no point in hiding which castle I'm taking. We'll play on Friday at 9:30 PM.
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18 years ago
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Rhox vs invisible. Instead of Rhox, I will play, Pit - for the sake of LM. The game will take place on May 11th, from 7:00 PM Moscow time. My city is Inferno, Pyre. Invisible will play for Tower, Aine. Map - 2 Hourglass II.
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18 years ago
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To admins: Although I haven't been on your forum for very long, I already have some complaints. Guys, you have serious problems with the forum. One day I can view a topic, and the next day I can't. Yesterday, I played against Uran, and now I can't submit the report. Neither like this: /topic/4200/ nor like this: /topic/at/176053/ I came to your portal to enjoy playing games, and only here could I sign up for a new tournament (registration was closed on all other sites). I am enjoying it, but only until the moment when I need to post on the forum. Therefore, I will write the report here: Bob I. (red, Rampart, Ivor, Mephala) def Uran (blue, Tower, Ain) Outer Limits 147 I didn't realize right away that I had bought Mephala. She was sent in at the beginning as a scout. Due to lack of time, on day 6, I didn't manage to build pegasi, and therefore didn't manage to build unicorns with Stronghold. On week 2, I built dragons without a castle. I agree with invisible; there is not enough primary resources. I lacked wood. Therefore, I built a castle only on week 3, and I didn't even build a city hall. But there are plenty of resources in general, I just wasn't lucky with the wood spawn. I was one square short from attacking one turn earlier, when Ain didn't have his entire army. I was afraid of his first move (considering spell power). In the end, he moved first. Mephala 19-16-11-12, mass slow, expert tactics 4 dragons, 8 unicorns+, 23 dendroids+, 18 pegasus+, 53 elves+, 34 dwarves, 105 centaurs+ Ain 8-5-15-13, mass slow, basic air, chain +625 3 giants, 13 nagas, 15 djinn+, 26 mages, 41 golems+, 65 gargoyles, 213 gremlins+ Morale and luck dropped, and all units were killed on turn 2. Thank you for the game. P.S. At my request, the game was temporarily paused for 1.5 hours. Thank you to Andrei for understanding

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