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The AI's stupidity lies in the fact that 1) it attacks neutral monsters but doesn't touch what they are guarding, 2) it never retreats in battle even when losing, even against the strongest heroes, making it easy to finish it off even with a strong army, and a level 1 hero cannot stand against a level 20 hero, no matter how strong their army is.
1) Why? It collects artifacts, and it even buys them in shops. I haven't noticed this myself.
2) It does retreat sometimes, especially when playing on the highest difficulty. I actually prefer it not to retreat; it's just annoying to chase it all over the map, especially since it quickly replenishes its army after a defeat.
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1) Why does he collect artifacts? He even buys them in shops, and I haven't noticed this before.
2) He sometimes runs away, especially when playing on the highest difficulty. I actually want him not to run away; it's just annoying to chase him all over the map, especially since he quickly replenishes his army after a defeat.

In the third game, the computer always buys artifacts – that's for sure; sometimes you go in, and they're all gone. In the fifth game, too. And the computer only runs away on more difficult levels; it doesn't run away on easy levels.
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2) He sometimes flees, especially when playing on the highest difficulty. I actually prefer that he doesn't flee; it's just annoying to chase him all over the map afterward, especially since he quickly replenishes his army after a defeat.
He flees. And he should flee. Moreover, he flees much more often than he did in the third game. Because winning one battle shouldn't mean losing the war.
My friend and I had the main heroes flee five times per game, and it was fine. As long as the hero is still alive, nothing is lost.
By the way, I liked the "Hit and Run" tactic in the third game when used by the computer.
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H3 is a completely unique game in the Heroes series in terms of gameplay; there are tons of options, and you can retreat and, so to speak, rehabilitate yourself. But in H5, fleeing from battle essentially means losing the war. Unlike 3, every creature counts here—unless it's right at the beginning while you're running around without an army, collecting things and cutting through level 1-2 stacks, and you encounter a comrade who has just stocked up on troops; then of course you get beaten up and run away, which is fine. But the next retreat will lead to defeat with a probability of approximately 98%.
And honestly, the AI is shocking—the computer is terribly weak. Minor difficulties only arose in the Elf missions when you have to use underground passages, and that was on the hardest level.
On a normal map, there's absolutely no reason to play against the computer; it's a total blockhead :)
Любовь которая ежедневно не возраждается, ежедневно умирает.(с)
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The AI is great! It's not often that you see an AI that can challenge a veteran player. In Heroes of Might and Magic III, I always set the AI to the maximum level, but even then, it wasn't enough. Here, the AI is truly intelligent. Overall, Heroes of Might and Magic V is excellent for single-player. And what's a single-player game without good AI (since you can't play with other people) and a good story? Heroes of Might and Magic V has both!
В крови Огонь, а не вода...
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The AI is great! I don't often set it higher than veteran. In Heroes 3, I always set it to the maximum, but even that wasn't enough, and here it's truly intelligent. Heroes 5 is great for single-player, and what's a single-player game without good AI (since you can't play with people) and a good story? And Heroes 5 has both!
I have the same problem: in Heroes 3, I can play at 200% difficulty, but in Heroes 5, I can't get very far on hard difficulty. Maybe it's not because of the AI? Maybe we just don't play Heroes 5 very well yet?
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I agree with you. And in the fifth game, it's not that easy, but I hope it's really because I haven't gotten the hang of it yet... ;)
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I agree with you. And in Heroes 5, it's not that easy, but I hope it's really because I haven't gotten the hang of it yet... ;)
We've only been playing Heroes 5 for a little over a month, while I personally started playing Heroes 3 a long time ago. Everything will come with time.
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I don't know, maybe my computer is just slow, and I've never had any problems with it while playing, maybe I just imagined it?
Любовь которая ежедневно не возраждается, ежедневно умирает.(с)
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I don't know, maybe my computer is just slow, and I've never had any problems with it while playing, maybe I just imagined it?*xz*
Are you perhaps playing on Recruit difficulty? If so, then everything is clear, your computer doesn't have to work very hard in that mode.
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I disagree with the second point! In battle, the computer targets archers and mages, deals as much damage as possible, and then retreats! That's how it happened to me! And not just once!


Do you remember the third game? Sometimes the enemy would cast a spell right away and retreat!! (with a weak army):mad:
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Remember the third game? Sometimes the enemy would cast a spell right away and wipe you out!! (with a weak army):mad:
That happened sometimes. What bothers me most about the AI (in all the games) is that it buys 20 heroes and goes around begging, grabbing resources here and there. And it's a real pain to chase after them all!
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Are you perhaps playing on Recruit difficulty? If so, that explains everything; the AI doesn't put up much of a fight.
No, I'm playing on the hardest difficulty. :(
Also, I've noticed that the AI doesn't attack a Castle if the garrison is three times weaker than its own army. It runs to the Castle, buys one reinforcement, and then starts retreating.
Любовь которая ежедневно не возраждается, ежедневно умирает.(с)
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Also, I noticed that the computer doesn't attack a castle if the army inside is three times weaker than its own. It runs towards the castle, buys one reinforcement, and then starts to retreat.

I don't know, in my case, the computer constantly attacks the castle, even if I have only one reinforcement, and it has 2 or 3, but not less. I lose on fast battles, but if I replay the battle myself, I can win easily, although not always. ;)
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It happens. What annoys me most in the AI (in all parts) is that it buys 20 heroes and goes around begging, taking resources here and there. And it's a real pain to chase after them all!


Exactly! Especially in the first three games!!
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