Posts from Invisibility for the Town Hall.

I suggest we discuss the issue of stalkers and matriarchs being invisible in The Shadow of Death and whether or not it's necessary to adjust this.

On the one hand, if you nerf invisibility, it will be neither fish nor fowl: the best players and/or those who prefer a more strategic approach won't have time to reach the other end of the map (to, for example, eliminate enemy archers). On the other hand, it results in a rather significant strengthening of the Dungeon faction as a whole, compared to versions 1.6 and 2.1. I'm not even sure if it should be nerfed, although, in my opinion, invisibility is an over-the-top ability.

IMHO, to balance level 1 Dungeon, one simple thing needs to be done – reduce the initiative of the Hunters from 12 to 10. Then they won't always go before enemy archers, and therefore won't be as useful. Matriarchs – leave them as they are; in my opinion, the Mistresses are already better than them because they shoot well. P.S.: The poll needs an option for "other." P.P.S.: All of this could have been discussed in the main thread.

I stick to the option of reducing the invisibility duration for stalkers to 2 rounds (instead of 3 as it is now) and not touching the Matriarchs.

Stalkers will have enough time to reach the end of the battlefield, but nothing more.
This will prevent falling behind in development compared to the machinists of other races, but will exclude scenarios where on the first week with starting troops, the Warlock will be wiping out level 4-5 neutrals on the 1st or 2nd weeks—who are practically equal in number—with little to no losses (using stalkers and Sinitar on the 4th day of the 1st week against 36 unupgraded druids). Not to mention Letos. Matriarchs do not have such an influence and, IMHO, should not be touched.

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PS: the poll needs an "other option" version.
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Agreed. How to add?

PPS: all of this could have been discussed in the main thread.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but not as clearly.
And there will be those who are too lazy to write, but will vote

I think nothing needs to be changed. It's very well done. No one will interfere with either the Matriarchs or the Stalkers on their way to the target. And in my opinion, the new upgrade is better than the ranged units. I like it!

Exactly – it should be better. But it should be just as useful.

Exactly – it’s better. And it should be just as useful.

But other factions also have a best alternate upgrade, for example, the Knight Isabel for Haven.

I agree, and that's not good. It's not even a decent alt, more like some third-rate option.

I have nothing to add, except for the usual phrase: "let's see what happens in 3.1." If the beta testing takes so long, then the balance will probably be significantly adjusted. Although, for some reason, it seems to me that the Stalkers won't be changed.

I don’t use invisibility at all; I just take archers.

I think we should leave everything as it is... Is there an estimated release date for 3.1?

On the one hand, invisibility is simply amazing when clearing neutral creatures. You can calmly run around with invisible rogues on the battlefield, while the hero leisurely mows down enemy archers. It's almost cheating :) On the other hand, I personally got used to playing with archers; without them, it feels a bit uncomfortable – it's easier to clear slow neutral creatures with archers (in my opinion), and I was very upset that there isn't a single archer in all the dark factions in the alt-upgrade. Although, you can come up with tactics with rogues and heroines... It will be very brutal :rolleyes: But the first level of the elves probably needs to be adjusted. Otherwise, only the low growth rate saves them from being labeled as overpowered.

P.S. Don't be too harsh, because I'm playing Heroes of Might and Magic 5 very little right now, due to working on my diploma and not being able to install Heroes of Might and Magic 5 on my laptop... :( So I might get half of it wrong :o But personally, it seems to me that the upgrades are balanced – no matter what, archers are always useful ;)

No, I don't think anything should be reduced. If the duration of invisibility is reduced to two turns, what's the point? You just run to the end of the map, and that's it. And if you reduce their initiative, Stalkers won't always go first (sometimes they go after Elven Archers). And if you reduce their intuition, they'll be taken out by those same archers, and invisibility will also lose its meaning. But the developers probably know best, let's see what happens in the patch (if it ever comes out).

I don't think it's necessary to nerf the Invisibility skill... IMHO. Although the ability itself is quite powerful, especially for a fast start, as it allows you to easily defeat almost any neutral creatures (perhaps it should be nerfed only for this reason). But in battle, invisible units are easily detected.

Wouldn't it be better not to nerf True Sight, but instead give each faction its own counter against invisibility? (The trap for Orcs is, of course, a bug.) But I often use the Crystal of True Sight (and other similar items) in such battles.