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18 years ago
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There is also the aspect of preparing save files and adapting maps. Here, it is probably necessary to listen more to the opinions of players who will ACTUALLY play.
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18 years ago
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Regarding the issue of stimulating players:
Perhaps it would be worth coming up with something new, but we already have the "Grails" system, which VDV worked on so hard. Let's try using it ourselves?
After all, we already have online rankings (with several reports per day), and this is done without an integrated program in the forum. I see it this way: a regularly updated HTML table, and we can require all organizers of official tournaments to post in the topic with this table or in another topic with links to the tournament results, based on which Grails will be awarded.
There will be one person responsible for maintaining the Grails table; I think we have many enthusiastic people who can take on this task. If possible, we can later write a program that will make it easier for this responsible person to fill out and update the table (as Starhan did for maintaining the online ranking for Heroes of Might and Magic V).
As many already understand, if we don't do this ourselves, no one else will do it for us.
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18 years ago
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:) considering how many players we have, we need to prepare the technical infrastructure first. I think that from the very beginning, it will be impossible to keep track physically. And could you briefly explain the main idea of the Grail quests? It's a big topic. (in just two sentences)
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18 years ago
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Actually, it's not that scary (not scarier than your rating or the rating of official Tournaments). The grail table will resemble a combined rating of official Tournaments across all games, but it will also include online Tournaments. The formula for calculating grails for Heroes of Might and Magic was devised, and it was already used last year, but then, due to the grail system not being implemented, the column with grails was removed. As a rough estimate, we have a Tournament ending every 2 weeks (and grails are awarded even less frequently). This means that approximately every 2 weeks, we'll need to update the grail table, but not for 50-60 people, but only for the number of participants in the finished Tournament (the first post contains disappointingly small numbers). So, it's all quite feasible and realistic, if there's a desire! Now, about the grail system in a nutshell: participants in Tournaments receive grails, which they use to equip their "doll" (this can also be done not under the avatar, so as not to depend on changes to the forum engine, but in a separate thread, and for convenience, players will provide a link to their doll in their signatures – those who have played RPGs on the forum will understand what I mean). Organizers of official Tournaments hold Tournaments at the end of the year, where players can compete with their dolls (I think these will be arena-style Tournaments, but if the organizers come up with other ways to use the dolls in Tournaments, that would be great! And if we succeed, we need to discuss how to increase the prestige of these Tournaments, perhaps by positioning them as the main, final games of the year? But we can discuss this later). Grails can also be part of the prize pool, i.e., in addition to the grails that a participant receives for participating in an official Tournament, the organizer can allocate their own grails as a prize (as an additional incentive). Grails can be used for clan wars, simple games, etc. Grails will be our Heroesworld property. If I haven't explained it clearly, read the section about grails; everything is described in detail there.
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18 years ago
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Adelaide;169685
There will be one person responsible for maintaining the leaderboard. I think we have many enthusiastic people who can take on this task.
I repeat, I agree to oversee this event.
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18 years ago
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I agree. Also, it would be a good idea to award points for organizing, running, and judging tournaments. The workload for the tournament organizer is no less than that of a player in the top three.
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18 years ago
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So, another tournament for single-player campaigns has ended.
It turned out to be doubly enjoyable for me: firstly, I won, but let's skip that; and secondly, 8 out of 9 participants who submitted their saves had already participated in previous tournaments, which adds intrigue to the battle for the top spot in this category. But 9 participants, it seems like a small number, but it's a record attendance for the Campaign Tournament.
Let's summarize: 33 participations (18 participants), which averages 11 people per tournament. Out of 18 people, 8 are at least contenders for a "place in the sun." Six (which is a third) have played in all the tournaments. The most conservative part of the heroes turns out to be the most stable, although not the most popular.
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18 years ago
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Qwerty, this is already outlined in the section about rewards, and if I'm not mistaken, there are clear figures indicating who gets what and how much (including mentioning the work of organizers and news reporters). If necessary, everything can be adjusted.
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18 years ago
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Qwerty;169715
Also, it would be a good idea to award points for hosting, organizing, and judging tournaments. The workload for a tournament organizer is no less than that of a player in the top three.

I agree with this point, but wouldn't that lead to a surge of tournaments that are not very high quality?
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18 years ago
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We need to create a plan for the year. As the respected Adelaide once wrote. Please, can you provide a link to the thread about grails?
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18 years ago
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Agreed. Also, by the way, it would be possible to award grails for hosting, organizing, and refereeing tournaments. The workload on a tournament host is no less than that on a player in the top three winners.
Also, as far as I remember, grails are given for all sorts of forum work..., etc... =)))
I agree with this point, but in that case, won't there be a flood of tournaments of not very high quality?
This could be countered, so to speak... namely, by appointing a main person in charge of Heroes (be it an official or not)... and if a non-official tournament organizer wants to create a tournament, they would first have to contact the person in charge of that particular version to get approval to run it... (although this would significantly increase the workload for such people... but if they are not opposed, the idea could be implemented)...
A bit more on the topic of grails... I propose undertaking a labor-intensive task. Let's compile a mega table of HeroesWorld players, indicating which parts of the game they can generally play (for example, me - 1 offline/online, 3 offline and online, 5 offline/now I can also play online... and so on, i.e., if I participate in 4 offline, I'd get a bonus, something like that... well, in general, something along those lines...)... what to do with this next?? Next, award bonus grails (or rating) for the part a person plays for the first time, thereby stimulating the study of other parts!!!
(although this will not be easy)
Best regards..
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18 years ago
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I also think that our esteemed vbn (if he agrees) could create a program for automatically calculating Grails (I think it's possible) - and then everything will proceed according to the script... dolls, etc.))))
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18 years ago
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Raper, well done! Yes, tournaments should be organized in consultation with the section moderator. Because he definitely needs to review the map and save file, and he should also participate in verifying the results.
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18 years ago
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Yes, tournaments should be organized in consultation with the section moderator. Because he definitely needs to review the map and save file, and he should also participate in verifying the results.
Exactly... but it's a very time-consuming job... consider that you are running the tournament yourself....
I wouldn't want cases like with Light God - he organized "25" tournaments, and none of them went well (IMHO) - and the "favorites" were always put in the matches... ask him if he needed that (I think he didn't)... thanks to Eugene for taking over and continuing the tournament and not disappointing the players... and he continued it at a very decent level!!!...
So, it's up to the "tournament moderators" to decide! Whether it's needed or not...

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