Orcs have no magic. Warcries. — Stronghold

Julyanna

2/16/2008 2:41 PM UTC

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The lack of magic among the Orcs doesn't prevent them from being strong. Their strength lies in attack, not in magic and defense.

Ко мне всегда на Ты

_Prizrak_

2/16/2008 4:21 PM UTC

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A spell to counter magic would definitely come in handy for them... ;)

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_Prizrak_

2/19/2008 2:35 PM UTC

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That's exactly the point – this race is very strong physically, which means that Berserkers and Subjugation will cause a lot of trouble for Haven!!! And it will be difficult for them to defend against it...

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Не герой

2/19/2008 3:58 PM UTC

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Orcs could benefit from various protective amulets, charms, and talismans that protect against magic and grant strength (a kind of mini-artifact, like those found in the Academy). After all, all barbarian tribes use them.

Мертвые сраму не имут (с)

"Альянс Полумертвых"

_Prizrak_

2/19/2008 4:25 PM UTC

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Good idea! But then they would be considered overpowered... They have a lot of strength, but they are vulnerable to magic, otherwise they would just be tanks!

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The Death Knight

2/19/2008 5:10 PM UTC

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I believe that rage is a worthy replacement for any kind of magic. If you play as the Stronghold, you can choose a hero who specializes in centaurs. Buy them and go into battle. I only used centaurs to complete many stages. Overall, it's a pretty strong faction. Very strong indeed. Moreover, magic resistance further simplifies the game when playing as them.

Рок сотрёт в пыль своих врагов и сокрушит поток времени.

Некроманты рулили, рулят и будут рулить всегда.

Dirty Player - игнор.

_Prizrak_

4/11/2008 10:11 AM UTC

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rage replaces magic,

These are 2 different things, how can magic be replaced by rage...? I don't quite understand.

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Amko

4/11/2008 10:47 AM UTC

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Actually, magic is replaced by spells and antimagic... and rage is a racial ability, like counterattack for Knights and necromancy for Necromancers...

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Майор Вихрь

4/11/2008 10:53 AM UTC

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_Prizrak_;168695

These are two different things; how can magic be replaced with rage...? I don't quite understand.

Indeed, it's strange. If we're drawing an analogy, then rage replaces overwhelming magic, gating, counter-attack, and so on. But warcries are meant to replace magic; they were created so that an orc doesn't just mindlessly attack in melee during its turn. Otherwise, everyone would just max out Devil's Strike because there would be no alternative.

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

_Prizrak_

4/11/2008 5:43 PM UTC

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Should we remove the Berserk skill? It doesn't seem to be removed by cleansing spells...

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Amko

4/11/2008 6:09 PM UTC

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Guys, don't get it wrong! Berserk can be removed with antimagic and cure, but it cannot be removed with dispel!
By the way, some effects can be removed – blindness, for example. There's a spell that deals damage to your creature and => removes blindness.

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Mdance

4/12/2008 5:04 AM UTC

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Night Nazgul;168806

By the way, you can remove blindness. There's a spell that damages your creature and => removes blindness.

This spell is Word of the Leader. It also moves its own units on the battlefield, so Blindness isn't effective against Orcs.
And the Chieftains also remove blindness with the same effect.

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

Julyanna

4/27/2008 12:37 PM UTC

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I am especially pleased with the "Fury of the Horde" war cry – it is very helpful when you have a large army.

Ко мне всегда на Ты

_Prizrak_

4/27/2008 3:51 PM UTC

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I especially like the "Wrath of the Horde" ability – it's very helpful with a large army.

That's the point, it's very helpful with a large army... But with a small army, it's almost useless...
That's why it's almost useless in online games... But if you're playing at home, in the late game, then of course, YES!!!

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I think that replacing magic with this ability results in a rapid increase in attack.

I don't quite understand the meaning of your post...
Do you mean that you don't level up spells and knowledge, but instead focus on attack and defense? Is that what you mean?

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Gondar

4/27/2008 4:00 PM UTC

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I meant that if Orcs can't cast spells, then their attack and defense stats grow faster. Knowledge and magic also increase, but at a slightly slower rate.

С уважением Gondar.:) :) :)
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