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#2401
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Let's see how the Black Dragon does.
Isn’t the river impassable?
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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#2402
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Round 2

Sir Gortreng moves.
Sir Gortreng attacks target Biter 5 with weapon Black Sword.
Biter 5 takes 110 damage (-30/80).
Biter 5 dies.
Sir Gortreng attacks target Biter 4 with weapon Black Sword.
Biter 4 takes 110 damage (-30/80).
Biter 4 dies.
Gristle uses item Healing Potion.
Grittle restores 35 health.

Round 3

Turn order:

Kikki [19] (55/80) (3 potions, 2 enslavers) <<<
Rook-Shator [17] (131/140) (1 potion, 3 meats)
Ice Flesh [15] (90/90)
Sir Gortreng [15] (45/150) (5 potions, 3 salads, 3 elixirs, 98 arrows) Poisoned
Grittle [6] (50/50) (0 potions, 3 weak bombs, 2 bombs) Frozen
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"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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#2403
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Everything is in place until the turn of Flesh
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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#2404
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Round 3

Kikki skips a turn.
Ruk-Shator skips a turn.
Ice Flesh moves.
Ice Flesh flees the battlefield.

BATTLE ENDED

Khryash receives 165 experience points for the battle.
Khryash reaches level 3 (+1 attribute point to distribute freely, +1 action point).

Khryash obtains Medium Alchemical Ingredient x2 from corpses.

– A dangerous boy…

The rest of the night passes peacefully.

Khryash restores all action points.
Khryash restores Will and Mind stats.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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#2405
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+1 Dexterity
-- That's what happens when you don't listen to Redhead... Did it seem like it was the same one, or do they reproduce by budding? Next time I catch one, I'll interrogate it thoroughly, even if I have to freeze its sword...
After waking up and first making sure that the stone is still there, Khryash leads the group back.
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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I briefly saw what you wrote about the situation with Zaya. You missed the main point and focused on completely unimportant things like "it's logical that a warrior is clumsy in everyday tasks." But the essence is this:

Here is Yashur's reaction to actions that did not affect his character in any way:
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He didn't pay attention to the "poorly washed clothes" because he lived alone and knew perfectly well that washing couldn't ruin clothes. At worst, they would just be not clean enough, rather than becoming "rags for mopping floors"...
Normal and adequate. This is what I expected when role-playing mundane situations for fun. Just role-playing without affecting stats or anything else.

Then Yashur asks about food:
Evil Yashur
Does he give something? Or is it just for show, like the Tsulak training...

Astral replies to him:
AstralLein
If there were effects, I would have written it above.

Yashur logically thinks that even if there is an effect, it will be formal, without influencing the character, as with clothing. And what happens in the end?
AstralLein
Zaya's snack turns out to be simple but delicious. It could not leave any man indifferent. But soon Aristarkh feels the approach of countless hordes from the intestines and stomach. Realizing that his rear won't hold out long under the onslaught of the enemy, Aristarkh instinctively runs to the toilet and locks himself in there. The battle with the knights of the brown banner takes a lot of strength from the novice and ends only closer to morning.

Aristarkh recovers half of his action points.
Astral simply deceived him by writing that there would be no effects. He didn't write "who knows," "maybe yes, maybe no," or "there will be an effect, but I won't say what." He wrote what he wrote. Personally, I would have been much more upset than Yashur after this. Besides, Yashur wasn't doing anything. All this happened because of my actions. In fact, I set up another player. Yes, it's not fatal for the character, not very significant, but I did set him up.

When NPCs deceive a character, it's normal. When a GM deceives a player, it's not normal.

Regarding whether I consider you, Astral, as evil/annoying/unpleasant a GM as Revan (lol). I don't think so. I draw conclusions from previous experiences and from events in the current experience. What do I see? The character of Neyra is losing control over her actions. Alex's character lost control and was raped (potentially with the same consequences as Ida). Revan's character was turned into undead and lost control over his actions. Yashur's character almost fell under the influence of a witch during excavations (almost lost control over his actions. I don't know what else happened; I don't have time to read the thread now). What conclusions should I draw about what will happen to the other characters? This is not reasoning about whether I like such pranks or not; this is an answer to why I think that Zaya and Aristarkh were destined for the same fate.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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You are right, Nebo. Astral didn't just "trick the player." He disregarded his own "rules," which clearly state that food is purely an RP element (which I was counting on), and deducted 3 ODs. And most importantly, everyone went along with it. No one said, "Astral, you're violating your own mechanics." Including you. This is what killed my desire to play. It's pure "leaderism," and I can't stand it. Sorry... I'll finish this experience and then I'm done.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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Not regarding any specific situation, but generally speaking: yes, there is a point that losing control over a character (their actions, essence, mobility) can put the player in a difficult position, so this should be approached with caution. In some sense, this is much worse than killing a character, especially if the prerequisites for this are weak.
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an evil/harmful/unpleasant Mage Guild as Revan
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You are right, Sky. Astral didn't just "trick the player." He disregarded his own "rules," which clearly state that food is purely an RP element (which I was counting on), and deducted 3 ODs. And most importantly, everyone went along with it. No one said, "Astral, you're violating your own mechanics." Including you. This is what killed my desire to play. It's pure "chieftainism," which I can't stand. Sorry... I'll finish this experience and then I'm done.
In my defense, I only considered Astral's move now. Those two of your posts somehow slipped past me; I only reread them today during a break and looked into it closely.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#2410
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It’s good that I have a special relationship with the Gnomes, so nothing bad will happen to my characters.

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AstralLein
Corvis is surprised that he is being kicked out, but obediently leaves. Roselia safely reaches the sanatorium.
Having reached the desired location, the green traveler looks around in search of the sanatorium boss.

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In my defense, I can say that I only considered Astral's move now. Those two of your posts somehow slipped past me; I only reread and looked closely at them today while on break.
He could have at least refrained from mocking me with his "photoshop." First, you ruin your reputation in my eyes, and then you are surprised and call me paranoid...mad

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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Oh, these amusing players always interpret absolutely everything solely in their own favor. I'm taking advantage of the fact that there is only one Mage Guild and that this is his second campaign ever. They flocked together like jackals.

a) Revan killed himself against a Necromancer, fully aware that it was a Necromancer. Lerad didn't intend to kill him initially.
b) Nowhere does it say that Ide even has anything at all. This is how Neyra is roleplaying, and I am using it to build tension by utilizing completely unrelated events.
c) Hryashch could have resisted. He just chose not to. The chances were very low, though. But in reality, it was just a standard game mechanic check for seduction from a perfectly normal character sheet of that mob.
d) Yes, I didn't tie the effect to eating. And yes, if anyone other than Aristarkh had eaten it, nothing would have happened. Yes, it turned out to be an overly blatant trap. But who doesn't make mistakes? Nebos, what's your list of blunders throughout all campaigns? Have you never made hasty decisions? Is the Mage Guild a god incarnate who never makes mistakes? He did, many times. But no Yaschur appeared to throw you face-first into the mud for it.

And you, Yaschur, are a spoiled egoist. In this campaign, you only care about yourself. You envy everyone around you, even though you have more. You whine about everything. You think the Mage Guild should lick your fingers, fulfill every whim, and definitely not interfere with you. I indulged you throughout the entire campaign. But I miscalculated once and received black ingratitude in return. And even after that, I went halfway to meet you. How naive. To believe that it is possible to coexist with Yaschur in a campaign. No, it isn't! You killed the Obelisks, ruined Revan's hard work. And you were even forgiven. In vain. With such a high sense of self-importance, you can only ruin campaigns. Putting you in comfortable conditions is pointless. You will still find a way to pour a stream of whining over everyone present.

I just want to remind you that no matter how much a player tries, no matter how much soul they put into their character... being a Mage Guild is a hundred times harder. Yaschur could have taken the path of simple questions and suggestions. But no! He only knows the path of apocalypse. I think he simply enjoys killing campaigns. I even suspect that he is actually a troll.

I admit my mistake regarding the food, but all the rest are fabrications and, in my understanding as the creator of the campaign, are not true. According to the original plan, the players' characters in this campaign should not have died at all. Getting into some unpleasant situations, yes. That's what the campaign is about. The setting isn't about pink Yaschurs on a rainbow field. There is always a chance to get out unscathed. If someone likes to think there isn't, okay. It's up to each individual player.

Therefore, Nebos and Yaschur leave this campaign. And if Revan, Heroist, Alex, and Neyra want to know what the evil Astral was really planning, rather than in the fantasies of very offended players, they are welcome to join. The western shore awaits. Or you can let Yaschur gloat over the second corpse of the campaign. He loves collecting them so much.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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Revan intentionally sacrificed himself against the Necromancer, fully aware that it was a Necromancer. Lerad did not initially intend to kill him.
There's a nuance here. At the time of the alchemist incident, my character was irritated by what he perceived as injustice because, in addition to the main demoness, he encountered only arrogant and aggressive individuals who tried to humiliate him at every opportunity. And then, at the end of his first journey, he encounters such meanness from an NPC whom he could have exchanged a vial with for something else without conflict – which is precisely why he came there. I don’t know what the chances of winning were, but Sarabas was ready to fight to the death. By the GM's decision, the situation was resolved without bloodshed, but immediately afterward, it returned in the form of Lerad, who continued to demand something and verbally insult the character. Due to his personality and previous events, Sarabas acted as he did. So, yes, if you look at the situation separately from everything else, it seems like I killed the character myself, but if you look at the whole picture, my character found himself in a dead end.

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Yes, it turned out to be an overly blatant trap. But who doesn't make mistakes? What is the length of your list of blunders throughout all the experiences, Nebos? Have you never made hasty decisions? Is the Mage Guild a god incarnate who never makes mistakes? You have, many times. But there was no Yaschur who would throw you face-first into the mud for that.

I would understand if Yaschur hadn't asked and you had simply forgotten about the food mechanic, which you wrote about earlier and which is quite vague (which is normal), and just sent him packing. But he specifically asked, in a specific situation, suspecting a trick. You replied that there were no effects. I don't know how else to interpret his question and your answer so that it looks like a random mistake rather than deception.
Of course, there have been many mistakes. Revan did some, and so did others in the Skype chat.

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I admit my mistake regarding the food.

Okay, thank you.

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but everything else is speculation and, in my understanding as the creator of the experience, is not true. According to the original plan, the players' characters should not have died at all in this experience. Getting into unpleasant situations, yes. That's what the experience is all about. The setting isn't about pink Yashchurs on a rainbow field. There is always a chance to get out unscathed. If someone likes to think otherwise, okay. It's up to each individual player.

Well, yes, speculate, but what are the options? I can't read minds, and trying to predict the Mage Guild's moves is necessary to adjust the characters to what's happening and, if lucky, avoid getting hit with something nasty.

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a) Revan killed himself against the Necromancer, knowing full well that it was a Necromancer. Lerad didn't initially intend to kill him.

Yes, Revan tried to die, that's true. But he wasn't killed outright; he was turned into an undead creature under control.

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b) Nowhere does it say that there is anything at all on Ide. This is how Neyra roleplays, and I use this to build tension by using completely unrelated events.

There was an episode when she told a story about Mahru to Aristarkh, and she felt bad. She felt bad in terms of game mechanics, not just formally, if I remember correctly, I'm too lazy to look for the post. There may have been something else that I forgot.

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c) Khryash could have resisted. He just didn't. The chances were very low, though. In fact, it was just a regular game mechanic check for seduction from a perfectly normal spellcaster of that mob.

Well, what could he do? In reality, he came under control, was raped, and received a permanent debuff that radically affects combat, considering that he is a bomber who can destroy the entire squad with a couple of bombs. It is also unknown whether it is possible to remove/re-subordinate him.

a) definite control.
b) potential control.
c) probable control during battle.


So, what conclusion should I draw as a player, seeing this three times (four - the episode with Aristarkh, only now I remembered the episode with Utar - five)? Only one conclusion: that all the others will face the same fate.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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