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Regarding Heroes, I wouldn't want to use words that would imply they made the game worse; I'd say they probably wouldn't have made it better.
Vlad
Posts from Heroes 5 – “A masterpiece or an unfinished product?”
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What steps should the developers take regarding Heroes 5?
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Make minor improvements and release it by the end of March
15.4%
10 votes
Refine bug fixes more carefully and postpone the release date.
29.2%
19 votes
Careful refinement, postponement of release, another test, further refinement, release
55.4%
36 votes
***JOKER***
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Kathrin, could you write the script? Because everyone is good at writing criticism (not always constructive), but when it comes to actually doing the work...
And create different ability branches (6 distinct ones!), and then I'll agree.
Katrine
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Kathrin, could you write the script, please? Because everyone is good at writing criticism (not always constructive), but when it comes to actually doing it...
And create different skill trees (6 different ones!), and then I'll agree.
Nival didn't do anything. Absolutely nothing. Everything was copied and taken from different games. The game has no style. Fantasy? Medieval? Renaissance? Arabs? If they decided to do something like that, they should have made a game on the scale of Civilization, but as it is, it's bland and boring. + the log-shaped aliens are annoying.
Yeah, let's see... what comes to mind... I think the other developers... everyone except Nival would have made this game even worse....
The fifth installment was already a success. And that means that Heroes is dead. There is no longer any Might and Magic universe. Now, with each new game, each new expansion, we will get another dose of pop culture.
I see Heroes 5 as an evolution of the series, but I don't see any progress... Only regression... Maybe now Heroes will be on consoles?
:eek:
There were some reasons why they were the ones making the game. They were given an idea and a blueprint, and they brought it to life. I think they did a pretty good job.
The game should be released when it's 100% ready (that's how Blizzard works, and their games become hits from the moment of release). And not released with English pieces, many bugs, and a lack of basic conveniences... Even the praised translation is on the verge of "outstanding intellectual abilities." It's disgusting. I'll finish the Campaigns and put it on the shelf.
:cool:
Alan
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You praised Blizzard – good for you, but do you know how many games and movies they blatantly copied StarCraft from? No? Read the forums, you'll be surprised.
Next. The interface. Do you know why it's like this? Because the Heroes games are coming to next-gen consoles, and to make sure people can read the text on the screen, they made the windows so large (I don't like it either, but what can you do?).
Next. Add-ons and fluff. You seriously bought all four expansions for Heroes 3 that came out after Shadow of Death, which contained 6 (SIX) new maps on an entire disc for 100 rubles. And you probably thought that wasn't fluff?
Next. In-engine cutscenes. The undisputed hit from Blizzard, Warcraft 3, contained in-engine cutscenes, even though StarCraft didn't. And that's called new technology. They look very good in Heroes. (By the way, I'm tired of the phrase about closed mouths. Set the maximum resolution, and everything will open up).
Next. 100% game readiness. "Hits from Blizzard" are released, and then dozens of patches are released, and that's normal these days.
And finally, the beginning of your response about how all the branches were copied and there's nothing new or useful (by the way, they were mostly copied from previous Heroes games, as always). Nival made the game, balanced it, revived the spirit of Heroes, and, most importantly, doesn't plan to abandon its work (releasing patches and add-ons).
P.S. Do you know why Ubisoft gave the Heroes franchise to Nival for development? Because Demigods in the West is one of the most successful turn-based fantasy strategy games of recent years.
celt
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Yeah, right. Now everyone is borrowing ideas from each other. This is a modern trend. And heroes are no exception; moreover, if something is borrowed, it's always the best. And the heroes turned out great. By the way, unlike Warcraft, Heroes is actually fun to play!
Katrine
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1. Agreed
2. The console will kill the Might and Magic universe. Where will the plot be connected? After all, the game for Macintosh was made by a different company, based on Nival's creation:)
This is a minus.
3. Chronicles are great! I bought them all. Yes, it's a bit of a mess. But the plot was taken into account. And Nival has no plot. Starting with the description of Inferno and ending with the appearances of Sandro and Krag Hack...
This is a minus.
2. The console will kill the Might and Magic universe. Where will the plot be connected? After all, the game for Macintosh was made by a different company, based on Nival's creation:)
This is a minus.
3. Chronicles are great! I bought them all. Yes, it's a bit of a mess. But the plot was taken into account. And Nival has no plot. Starting with the description of Inferno and ending with the appearances of Sandro and Krag Hack...
This is a minus.
Alan
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Let's go....
2. Why would it kill the game? There are far more various series on consoles (like Final Fantasy).
3. I'M WRITING THIS AGAIN, UBISOFT DEVELOPED THE STORY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, GO TO THE NIVAL FORUM AND READ CAREFULLY.
4. And do you want, for example, during the purification ceremony, Agrael to run around looking distressed?
5. These are the last 2.5 patches, and before that, everything was changed (skills, monsters, construction time, etc.). By the way, in my opinion, 70% of the patch for Heroes is also bug fixes for Multiplayer, and they promise to make the second patch almost entirely for Multiplayer. And regarding changes to the single-player game - what exactly did the patch change in the campaign?
6. And everyone finds their own path, except for three people; everyone else on this forum has found it.
P.S. It's interesting how our companies, releasing excellent games (IL-2, Perimeter, Demiurges, Silent Storm, etc.), are fighting to conquer the Western market, and so far, albeit with difficulty, they are succeeding. And finally, there is interest in our developers; they are given a very respectable brand (as well as Disciples 3 and a couple more projects). IMHO, this is a good thing.
2. Why would it kill the game? There are far more various series on consoles (like Final Fantasy).
3. I'M WRITING THIS AGAIN, UBISOFT DEVELOPED THE STORY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, GO TO THE NIVAL FORUM AND READ CAREFULLY.
4. And do you want, for example, during the purification ceremony, Agrael to run around looking distressed?
5. These are the last 2.5 patches, and before that, everything was changed (skills, monsters, construction time, etc.). By the way, in my opinion, 70% of the patch for Heroes is also bug fixes for Multiplayer, and they promise to make the second patch almost entirely for Multiplayer. And regarding changes to the single-player game - what exactly did the patch change in the campaign?
6. And everyone finds their own path, except for three people; everyone else on this forum has found it.
P.S. It's interesting how our companies, releasing excellent games (IL-2, Perimeter, Demiurges, Silent Storm, etc.), are fighting to conquer the Western market, and so far, albeit with difficulty, they are succeeding. And finally, there is interest in our developers; they are given a very respectable brand (as well as Disciples 3 and a couple more projects). IMHO, this is a good thing.
Gorbik
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Heh, every opinion should be justified.
Here: http://www.ixbt.com/games/heroes5.shtml
Everything is well-justified there ;)
Alan
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Hey, every opinion should be justified.
Here: http://www.ixbt.com/games/heroes5.shtml
everything is well-justified ;)
Probably this is a jab at me?? The article is certainly interesting, but you know what, one question arose for me: have you read the conference with feedback about this article?? If not, read it; there are some smart thoughts being expressed. And for the most part, they are not very flattering to the author of the article. 8))
ТИГРЁНОК
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Heh, every opinion should be justified.
Here: http://www.ixbt.com/games/heroes5.shtml
everything is justified enough ;)
and I agree with this article; everything is described very accurately. I'm also waiting for a patch; hopefully, they'll fix something substantial.
Alan
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I agree with this article; everything is described very accurately. I'm also waiting for a patch; I hope they fix at least something significant.
I suggest you read their forum; there are some insightful thoughts there. I just don't want to rehash everything.
Varg-Nar
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I won't reveal any new truths to anyone. ;) Heroes is a masterpiece, and those who don't think so simply haven't played it properly. ;)
It's time to be more vigilant. ;)
It's time to be more vigilant. ;)
Vlad
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Perhaps from Russian developers. But from Western ones – no one. No sane person would change the interface and related features. There should be no videos on the game engine. This is Heroes. Pure gameplay and nothing else.
The 5th installment was already a success. And that means that Heroes is dead. There is no longer any Might and Magic universe. Now, with each new game, each new expansion, we will get another dose of pop culture.
I consider Heroes 5 to be a development of the series, but I don't see any progress... Only regression... Maybe now Heroes will be on consoles?
Katrine
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The West has a culture of production, unlike our country. Unfortunately, due to well-known events, it has disappeared (I hope not forever). And this applies to everything... So, while patriotism is good, let's not forget that in our country, you can't walk down the street waving a flag:eek: :eek: :eek: And no irony...
Борис
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The West, unlike our country, has a culture of production.
Unfortunately, due to well-known events, it has disappeared (I hope not forever). And this applies to everything...
So, patriotism is good, but don't forget that in our country, you can't walk down the street with a flag:eek: :eek: :eek:
And no irony...
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