We’ve turned into a Hive, things are getting serious. Auto-translated

Go to the Haven; there are ogres there, and they are unhappy. Meanwhile, Paladin Vovchik has completed Act 1. It's quite challenging to play as a Paladin; you have to constantly switch between auras. There are many combat skills, unlike the one-button Barbarian. And, by the way, there are no passive skills at all. Drakkosha, aren't you thinking about getting surgery? With your stats, I would only think about that.

Dwelling on thoughts about growth seems rather petty; I am above that.

Just like in the memes about Putin and Prokhorov.

Not relevant to the topic of political memes, and that’s probably for the best.

The main goal is to make a profit.

I'll say more, the main goal is to make as much money as possible for oneself; profit is not necessarily a condition for this.

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but I'll express my personal opinion.

I can't even imagine the possibility of undercutting in this situation, and I don't think these people are to blame.
Only aggressive marketing is to blame. A bunch of low-quality courses create false expectations and overheat the junior market. It's bad for everyone, both for the workers and for the employers, who waste a lot of time trying to find the right person in this sea of candidates.
And what is undercutting? I can only imagine two scenarios, and I don't find it in either. Either the company is looking for someone to replace someone who has left. This is already a certain rate or salary range, and it doesn't actually depend on the applicant's wishes. The second option is a new vacancy. And what about that? The logic is, "Well, there are plenty of juniors, so we'll offer a low rate"? No, of course not. The main goal is not to save money, but to find a specialist who will do a good job.

And here's another point. The initial selection is done by technical specialists, who are not allowed to discuss salary expectations. The applicant cannot undercut at this stage. They can only demonstrate their skills. It is only later that they may be rejected due to excessive demands if the company is not willing to offer such a salary.

And the fact that people without experience are willing to accept a low salary in order to get their foot in the door is, in my opinion, a perfectly normal situation, both now and 10 years ago. I would do the same.

In many companies, especially for IT positions, the salary is determined not by a pre-formed budget, but by the results of the interview. In some companies, they don't even state the rate, but directly ask, "How much do you plan to earn per month?" And if the candidate is articulate and can create a false impression (I've also heard about remote interviews where a monkey with courses and weak experience pretends to be the applicant, and an experienced friend does the test assignment for them, if they have one and are willing to help for free), then such a seemingly pleasant candidate will easily get a high salary based on the interview results.
At the same time, there are experienced IT specialists who are very modest and reserved, and when asked about the salary, they will say how much they earned at their previous job, and they will then be offered at best 5-10 thousand more than before, while their value may be as high as 300k.

In principle, I can say that I have personally encountered situations where employers cheat on salaries because of this very question. For example, a few years ago, at a factory, they asked me, and I replied that I would not agree to less than 35-40k. As a result, it turned out to be about 37 per month after taxes. Later, a girl joined the team in another department, who had a workload of 100k+, but she hesitated during the interview and said that she would be happy with 30k. As a result, that's exactly what they offered her.
Or a more "recent" case. A friend, an IT specialist, initially without the necessary experience and education (only self-education and experience in a call center), got a job in technical support in Moscow at a company that provides services for software and servers for MFCs, schools, and other government agencies. Initially, he was given a salary of 75k with the condition that after the probationary period, it would be increased to 85. Later, they hesitated, and for several months they didn't raise it. When they realized that he was ready to leave, they offered him 100. Gradually, over 2 years of work, they raised it to 130. He thought about leaving for a long time, but the New Year's bonus of 250k kept him going.
There were several other specialists in his position, and they were all forbidden to discuss salaries (everyone except him was kept in the office, and there was constant monitoring of what they were doing, what they were writing in their personal Telegrams, etc.). As a result, when he and a couple of colleagues decided to leave, and everyone stopped caring about the ban, it turned out that he was the only one who received such a salary and New Year's bonus. The rest were still paid 75-85 (one of them didn't forget to ask for a salary increase after passing the probationary period, the second hesitated), and their New Year's bonuses were about 30k.
So, unfortunately, in the current realities, the salary is formed not only by the employer's offer, but also by how well the employee "sells" themselves.

So, an IT specialist is worse than a prostitute, because the latter sells herself for a fixed price.

Well, Medzh, don't exaggerate. You made a funny point about working well. In an ideal world, that's how ideal people would behave. The main goal is to make a profit. That's it. It doesn't matter how. If profit can be made by selling the lowest quality product, most entrepreneurs won't care about anything else. And I'm not even talking about the fact that not all owners can or want to control their business; this function is often performed by managers, who, by the way, may have their own goals.

Nebok knows what he's talking about. Sir, have you ever worked in sales?

The initial selection is done by an HR person with psychology courses under their belt, who takes into account the importance of the zodiac sign and does a tarot card reading. It's a whole separate topic.

And that's not even mentioning the fact that nowadays, most companies have questionnaires for candidates that are initially filtered by a neural network, where the filtering is often done poorly. And this HR person may not even find out about the existence of the ideal candidate simply because the robot won't let them through.

Actually, yes, on XX, I sometimes came across bots that offered to fill out a questionnaire, take a survey, etc.

There are also bots that automatically search for profiles and then send people offers to fill out a survey, etc.

Okay, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. It's even worse than the one about moods...

I haven't encountered bots like that because I hid my profile a long time ago to avoid being seen. Back in the early 2010s, when I wanted to leave the confectionery, I created an open profile, and I was flooded with spam. They especially liked to invite me to the position I already held, rather than the one listed in my profile. At that time, I wanted to become a copywriter. Now I think it's a good thing it didn't work out; half of the texts at our company are written by AI. We still hire copywriters, but only occasionally. But if someone had told me back then that I would be working as a marketer and enjoying it, I wouldn't have believed it 🤣

Even with that, there were some funny moments during my job search. I wrote to one company for a content manager position, and they replied: "No, you're not a good fit for us; maybe we'll hire you for the administrative department?" Guys, if my experience includes administrative work, and I'm applying for a content manager position, what does that tell you? I laughed and ignored those smart guys.

When I interviewed for a content manager position in 2021, the HR representatives immediately dismissed me after just three (or even more) rounds of interviews, arguing: "This job will be boring for you, and you'll leave within 3-6 months. We don't want to take that risk."
Oh, yes. And working in a call center, dealing with constant stress, was much more enjoyable and didn't make me want to quit at all.

Yeah, that's pretty funny too. Can I decide for myself what I find boring and what I don't?

I'll buy a reinforced concrete slab PАG-14. I'll pay 2,000.

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Loken, is it normal to scam people for money? Aren't they all poor? Or are they not poor anymore?

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Loken, where have you been?