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Posts from We’ve turned into a Hive, things are getting serious.
In the case of my husband, it was a long time ago, in 2012. But for this guy, it was in the 20s, to be more precise, somewhere around 2021-2022.
Added 2 minutes later Heroist
I don't really like IT guys. I only got along with one decent developer from the CIS region in real life; the rest are some kind of quintessence of Indian curry, tolerant and agenda-driven procedure writers, and recent chat-GPT enthusiasts with an inflated ego and demands for triple the salary and endless remote work just for the fact of their divine existence.
Not all of them are like that. At least my husband and a couple of other acquaintances. But they all have in common that they are not incels, they don't earn exorbitant salaries, they are capable of having a normal conversation, and they don't suffer from an inflated ego. In the case of my husband and another guy, it's even the opposite; it's lowered.
Although they are all IT professionals from the "old school," meaning millennials who experienced everything before the hype of higher salaries and pumpkin spice lattes.
Added after 30 seconds Count Orlov
We condemn all virgin-core
Well, it would be very strange if I had been married to an incel for 10 years.
I wouldn't recommend anyone to try and break into the field right now, because the job market is in a bad state, especially for those who don't have experience.
Typical advice from someone who has successfully broken into the field, so that newbies don't undercut his salary. Author
It's like a joke, but it's true in real life. A job that requires long training, some intelligence, and talent is valued the same as a job that requires nothing but not being mentally retarded or disabled. And that's because a bunch of idiots who have a computer decided to break into the field and undercut prices.
You wouldn't believe how hard it is these days to find an adequate, non-mentally retarded person, even for an entry-level position, let alone for a position that requires you to use a couple of brain cells, and not just in the CIS countries. An inadequate number of amoebas are trying to break into the field on a whim, not only without any skills or experience, but even unable to string two words together, go even a tiny step beyond what they were shown in the instructions on their first day of training, and with a typing speed of up to five letters per minute.
You wouldn't believe how hard it is these days to find a decent, not mentally challenged person, even for an entry-level position, let alone for a role that requires a bit of brainpower. It's not just in the CIS countries. An inadequate number of people are trying to capitalize on hype, and they don't have the skills or experience, and they can't even put two words together, let alone step outside the box and do something that wasn't explicitly shown to them in the first day of their training. And their typing speed is only about five letters per minute.
Thinking back to my experience working in a call center, some people couldn't even follow step-by-step instructions. And yet, they have a ton of ambition and arrogance.
Added 4 minutes later Count Orlov
Easy bait, the woman once again confirmed the absolute truth of the blackpill dogmas.
Well, in this case, the woman hit him over the head and sent him back to the cave. Before meeting me, he was just a normal guy. He played games, watched anime. He only met girls in group settings, and before meeting me, he hadn't been with a girl for a year because he didn't have time to chase them; he had games and shows to play and watch.
Recalling my experience working in a call center, some employees can't even follow step-by-step instructions. At the same time, they have a lot of ambition and arrogance.
Their place in life is, at most, behind the wheel of a car or operating a machine, turning it clockwise until lunchtime, but they want more.
During the first, quick interview, or even the second, more detailed one, they will present themselves as pleasant people who may not understand everything, but overall, they give off a reasonable vibe; perhaps they will quickly learn on the job. You can even give them a test assignment, and if it's not done on paper in front of you, but remotely, they will complete it with ease.
They will be slow during the first week of their internship, "but that's normal," then during the first or second month, "okay, they're slowly getting the hang of it," then after six months, the manager won't care anymore; they seem to be doing something, and no major complaints are being heard from that side, but those who work with them or supervise them see and understand that they are just an idiot who can only do something according to instructions like "move the cursor 3 cm to the right and 5 cm up on this screen, and click once" – they are not capable of thinking or figuring out what should be happening in the overall process, nor can they take on even a microgram of responsibility and do something independently. For any criticism, you will hear "damn, I was distracted, sorry" at best, and at worst, "uh... well, I wasn't shown..." But even those who suffer from having such wonderful colleagues, without being managers themselves, won't have a strong desire to go to the boss and demand that someone else be found, because the training process was long and not very productive, and searching for a new idiot for six months in the hope that it will be better is also not a very optimistic scenario. If the idiot stays where they are, they will still be an idiot after a year, and after two years, and after five. And if you try to replace them, you will change six idiots in three years, and either you will remain in the same position, or the twentieth one will be at least normal. After that, they will leave for somewhere else after a year. A cycle of mediocrity without a phase of victory.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения! И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
Their place in life is, at best, behind the wheel of a car or operating a machine, performing repetitive tasks until lunchtime, but they want more. During the first, quick interview, or even the second, more detailed one, they will present themselves as pleasant people who may not understand everything, but overall, they give off a reasonable vibe; they will probably learn quickly on the job. You can even give them a test assignment, and if it's not done on paper in front of you, but remotely, they will complete it flawlessly. They will be slow during the first week of their internship, "but that's normal," then during the first or second month, "okay, they're slowly getting the hang of it," then after six months, the manager won't care anymore; they seem to be doing something, and no major complaints are coming from that side, but those who work with them or supervise them see and understand that they are just an idiot who can, at best, do something according to instructions: "move the cursor 3 cm to the right and 5 cm up on this screen, and click once" – they are not capable of thinking or figuring out what should be happening in the overall process, nor can they take on even a microgram of responsibility and do something independently. To any criticism, you will hear "damn, I was distracted, sorry" at best, and at worst, "uh... well, I wasn't shown..." But even those who suffer from having such wonderful colleagues, but are not managers, will not have a strong desire to go to the boss and demand that someone else be found, because the training process was long and not very productive, and looking for a new idiot for six months in the hope that it will be better is also not a very optimistic scenario. If the idiot stays where they are, they will still be an idiot after a year, and after two, and after five. And if you try to replace them, you will change six idiots in three years, and either you will remain in the same position, or the twentieth one will be at least normal. After that, they will leave for somewhere else after a year. A cycle of mediocrity without a phase of victory.
There is also a scenario where such an idiot is kicked out by the team or the manager if it becomes too annoying to clean up their messes. Especially if there are KPIs, a bonus and penalty system with a salary at or near the minimum wage.
Added 45 seconds ago Evil Lizard
I'm not quite sure, given my experience, what "cave" we're talking about here...?
Originally, the conversation was about housing, but the weak train of thought always appealed to me.