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Let's take your portal as an example. Do many new players come to play on it? Probably not that many, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

I'll answer only to these words for now, and then I'll try to calm down, analyze what you said, and respond.

Personally, as well as Forrest, I don't care how many new players come to our portal. I've long since formed a circle of players that I play with, and I don't need any more.

I don't know about the others, but I personally got involved in writing here because I feel bad that many people play and don't even know that there is a much more enjoyable version of the game, they are simply unaware. I draw this conclusion based on my own thoughts and the words of my friends: "How did we even play this SoD before?"

But it all boils down to one catch: You play on TE and don't want to leave it, we play on SoD, and we also don't want to leave it.

We played SoD (all of us, none of us started with TE), but we switched to TE. People don't switch from TE to SoD, at least I don't know anyone who does.

TE is a professional thing, and it's very rare for a new player to join it, because, for example, a person who has always played on SoD comes along. They are told: "Okay, install TE, read the file with the differences, and you can start playing with us."

No one is talking about new players because only a fairly good player with good experience can understand that TE is better than SoD. Again, this is based on my personal experience. I didn't play TE until I gained a certain amount of experience in SoD, and only then did I realize that SoD was a thing of the past.

many people play and don't even know that there's a much more enjoyable version of the game,

well, you know... as you've noticed, many on our forum don't think so... although I'm sure they haven't even tried it... and if they have, something bothered them =);)

well simply, you understand.. on our forum as you've already noticed - many don't think so... although I'm sure they haven't even tried...

That's exactly the point, that I understand better than anyone. Because I was in those shoes myself, I refused TE myself. But a year passed and now I can no longer play SoD. And everyone (well, the overwhelming majority, for sure) didn't want to play TE. There were cases (people are already well acquainted and don't think they are being cheated or that something is being forced upon them), where I practically forced them with a stick to install it, helping step-by-step via ICQ. And then I heard "Thank you"

organize a tournament. Preferably on SoD.

I, personally, will not deal with this for the simple reason that I'm too lazy. I didn't intend to write anything here at all, because I don't need it one bit. I only wasted my time. If you want to live in ignorance - go ahead.

Personally, and I think Forrest feels the same, we don't care how many new players come to our portal. I've long since established a circle of players that I play with, and I don't need any more.

Here are the Key words.
Our portal has a completely different focus, and YOU are only hindering it. Because new players want to play on SOD, and we provide them with that opportunity.

Sincerely.

Here are the key points.
Our portal has a completely different focus, and YOU are only hindering it. Because newcomers want to play in SOD, and we provide them with that opportunity.

Sincerely.

:D

Were you offered to translate the entire portal to TE? Our players' appeal was addressed to people who love online play and want to improve their skills and find worthy opponents. That's all.

Naturally, a player who is playing online for the first time will never be able to understand (even if they wanted to), why some guy moved the Town Portal to Fire and Slow to level 2, etc.

Dear Kyle, I honestly don't understand why you have such a negative attitude towards TE. Why not give newcomers to the forum the opportunity to choose their preferred game version? I suggest having two types of tournaments: one for SOD and one for TE. SOD tournaments would continue as usual, and TE tournaments would be held on heroes.bay. What's wrong with that? I believe this is a way out of the current situation. Those who want to improve their gameplay will find a way.

I also suggest trying to hold a few tournaments, both online and offline on the test server. If few people participate, we can stop holding tournaments on the test server. But it's worth trying at least once (or a few times) before saying no.

organize a tournament. Preferably on the SoD (Shadow of Death) map.

I, personally, won't be doing that, for the simple reason that I'm too lazy. I wasn't even planning on writing anything here, because I don't need it. I just wasted time. If you want to live in ignorance, go ahead.
Oops :o I think I'll be misunderstood here.

My words only referred to the phrase

Preferably on the SoD (Shadow of Death) map.

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The question is, are you (players from the forum) here to organize a tournament, or to lure players? Because you couldn't have just appeared to talk about it; many already know about it. Or do you believe that playing on the TЕ server makes people unhappy?

I, personally, won't be doing this, for the simple reason that I'm too lazy. I wasn't even planning on writing anything here because I don't need it. I just wasted time. If you want to live in ignorance, go ahead.

Ignorance of what? The existence of the TЕ server, the love some players have for it, its undeniable interface advantages? Or perhaps some nuances of the heroes? Out of curiosity, I read all your advice in various topics, but I didn't learn anything new, even though I don't like playing online, and if I do, it's according to the rules of Chaos League. Because it's not about knowledge, but about the ability to implement it, just like in offline games.

In short – just some harsh words... oh well...
Kyle – do you feel sorry? Well, not exactly. People didn't express themselves very politely. In the end, you're not playing online, right? It's not up to you to decide. In the end, whoever wants to will play on the test server. Whether they like it or not is another question.
Anyway – I agree with Yuri and Gramm's last posts. And I myself played on the test server – it's a normal version. And by the way – the question isn't really about the test server. The question is about friendship and cooperation. I ask that both sides remember this!

Yeah, it's a pity that you have such moderators... Actually, it was quite possible to play on Soda, and the creator of heroes.by, Balmut, also talked about this, as did Forrest (read about the tournament of the best players in the world on a foreign website). Furthermore, I personally (when I was actively playing online), if I was looking for players on Bay, I would arrange to play on Soda (most often), and there were no problems with this for anyone (the reason is that I also played on the Heroes Portal, and there was only Soda, and it was difficult for me to click many times after TE, moving units one by one from hero to hero, and I didn't have time to go in 4 minutes after TE). I still try to disable almost everything when I rarely play TE online, so that the game is as close as possible to Soda, and despite all this, your Administrator writes such words... Furthermore, about promoting Bay or TE, about "finding new players"... For information, on Bay, unlike other resources, there are about 100 very good players who actively play (and in other places, with a large total number of users, there are only a few, or at best, a dozen), and there is never a problem finding a partner to play with at any time of the day, and strong players have so many people who want to compete with them that they have to sign up almost a week in advance. And now, let's remember how I came here: I posted a link to your forum in the humor section on Bay, in the Tactics section, and much of what was written there was simply funny. After that, I was reprimanded by Bay players, Forrest and Papik, and I agreed that it would be better to explain instead what the mistake is in one or another statement, and it would also be good if both resources actively communicated, contacted each other, exchanged experiences, played, and finally met, since both are Russian-speaking and both are dedicated to Heroes. I started writing actively in the Tactics section (you can go there and see), although, of course, it was very surprising that, despite the fact that you have good players, no one bothered to explain to beginners where they are mistaken or doing something wrong. And here, reading this topic from the beginning, there are posts from Forrest, Papik, and Balmut saying that, guys, we came across you - let's be friends, play together, share experiences, meet. And the answer - from your players - was negative, that they are being promoted and forced to play TE (although this was done only to make it more convenient and faster for the players here to play, for their benefit, and there is absolutely no other interest in the fact that Forrest and Papik will play here personally (especially since both have very limited time, and the chance that they will play with any of the players here is minimal, so this was done EXCLUSIVELY for the benefit of the players here), and then there were accusations of luring players to Bay - this is completely unfounded. Bay is a completely non-commercial project where true Heroes fans play among themselves, and there is no benefit to the resource from new people coming. And no one anywhere says that any of your players need to register on Bay, I personally only mention Bay when it is necessary so that your players can familiarize themselves with and read useful information about the game, about tournaments (including real ones, for example, there will be a tournament with a large prize fund in Kiningissep in January), read reports and view uploaded saves of games by the strongest players (this will be very informative) - I would not mention Bay if all this or similar information was here, or if it could all be copied and posted here (but this is a huge amount). In general, it's sad, gentlemen...

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or to lure players.

Lure them where and for what purpose? :)

After all, you couldn't have just appeared to talk about IT.

Exactly, I don't know how implausible it is, but that's how it is. Moreover, not to impose, but to suggest.

many already know about it.

Knowing about it is one thing, playing it is quite another, completely different things. It's sad, but that's the way it is.

Or do you think that playing on IT doesn't make a person unhappy?

Each person has their own idea of happiness. For me, playing HoMM is just a pleasure, and it cannot make me happy or unhappy. Therefore, I cannot answer this question, because I don't see the point in it.

Out of curiosity, I read all your advice in various topics, but I didn't learn anything new there.

The advice was given to people who were looking for answers to their questions. And, frankly, it's not quite clear why you wrote this. If you can, comment.

After all, it's not about knowledge, but about the ability to implement it, just like in the original.

Yeah, but without knowledge, you can't really "implement" it, that's one thing, and secondly, IT allows you to implement it much more, let's say, to use the game's possibilities much more conveniently.

Lure them where and for what purpose?

You know better, but I was just trying to understand the reasons for your appearance here based on simple logic.

Exactly, I don't know how implausible it is, but that's how it is. Moreover, not to impose, but to offer.

That's good, but I'll express my personal opinion: the offer turned out to be quite intrusive.

It's one thing to know about it, and quite another to play it; they are completely different things. It's sad, but that's the way it is.

Who is it sad for? It's people's choice, even if sometimes it's just out of habit.

Advice was given to people who were looking for answers to their questions. And, frankly, it's not entirely clear why you wrote this. If possible, comment.

It is possible. The phrase referred to the statement.

If you want to live in ignorance, then live in it.

I was curious about what kind of ignorance I live in.

Yeah, but without knowledge, you can't really "achieve" much, that's one,

It's better to figure out many things on your own. Pure "knowledge" often fails in practice, and not just in Heroes.

and secondly, TE allows you to implement much more, let's say, to use the game's features much more conveniently.

It's more convenient and faster for a beginner, that's undeniable.

I personally only mention Bai when it's necessary so that your players can learn about and read useful information about the game and tournaments (including real ones; for example, there will be a tournament with a large prize pool in Kingisepp in January).

Dear Gynnar, your words contradict themselves – in this post (No. 131), the mention of an online resource can be easily observed about 10 times, if not more. And the post doesn't contain any useful information, only blatant advertising. IMHO.

Of course, it's not hard to see that you really want to find good players, but the question is, for what purpose? The posts only show that such a "search" is happening for your own benefit, isn't it? And all your words (this applies to everyone who came from your portal) that you "want to help you reach a higher level of play" are just words, unfortunately... Although, something can already be seen in the "tactics" thread, but IMHO, it's not enough. Show us your rules and regulations for the TE version, a specific tactic for this version.

People are distrustful creatures (life is like that now :)), so prove that your words are not empty.

P.S. And please stop mentioning your website – it's enough.

So... are we going to continue the tournament or not?????... Arguing, arguing, and more arguing... when will it end...? I still suggest that players from .by talk to someone (for example, Adelaide) from the organizers of the 3-player tournaments (online) and find out how to organize such a tournament more effectively (not in terms of rules or anything like that, but specifically in terms of OUR PORTAL). If you really want to improve the level of play among the players on HW, you should also post tutorials on tactics (not just links, but in a separate post). Or, you could hold the tournament on SOD. P.S. I read in the tactics section about the battles that took place... it was great, I learned a lot of interesting things. I also suggest that our users... be less unwelcoming. I, for example, really want to improve my level of play, so my heart can't take it when users on HW react negatively to suggestions from users on .by, even though I understand that the latter started the conversation incorrectly and perhaps went too far in mentioning their resource. =) Sincerely, RAPER