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What do you think? Perhaps life is a test, after which only the best will enter the real world, where everyone is happy, and so on. Or perhaps life is already a gift that not everyone receives... Or is it just a game?
Feel free to suggest your own ideas.
Be strong. Believe
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Having gone through many trials in life, you realize that life is still a gift:smile43:.
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a real world where everyone is happy, and so on.
Don't you think that a person won't be able to feel happiness without knowing what its absence means? If you think about it that way, then life is that world. Therefore, life is a gift.
Don't you think that a person won't be able to feel happiness without knowing what it means to lack it?
I certainly do. In general, the statement "How do you make a person happy? Make them feel bad, and then return everything to how it was" is not just a funny aphorism. It's actually the truth.
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Life itself can turn out to be both a gift and a misfortune, but every person has the opportunity to make it both.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you Its the servants devotion for the decay Stand up
Make him feel bad, and then restore everything to how it was.
However, it seems to me that in life, there is a diametrically opposite trend... We are born, and then we die: we are given the happiness of living a life, and then, when it's sad to part with it, it is taken away... This is doubly unfair...
Essentially, life can turn out to be both a gift and a misfortune.
But we are not contrasting "misfortune" with a "gift," but rather with a challenge. And a challenge is not a misfortune; it is a tool for gaining knowledge.
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However, it seems to me that in life, there is a diametrically opposite trend... We are born, and we die: we are given the happiness of living a life, and then, when it is sad to part with it, it is taken away... This is doubly upsetting...
What diametrically opposite trend are you talking about? What does death have to do with it? Is death observed in life? Firstly, death ends life, and is not one of its events. Secondly, if we are not talking about violent or premature death, it is far from always the case that the dying person so desperately wants to live. Many people in old age look forward to death, and sometimes, considering that their tools for experiencing life are either unable to function or are not being used, their desire is quite understandable.
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Challenges are a misfortune for those people who cannot cope with them. The fact that it is a challenge is undeniable; for some, this challenge is too easy, while for others, it presents unexpected difficulties. But in any case, it can be overcome.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you Its the servants devotion for the decay Stand up
What does death have to do with it? Is death observed in life? Firstly, death ends life, rather than being one of its events. Secondly, if we are not talking about violent or premature death, the dying person does not always yearn for life. Many elderly people look forward to death, and sometimes, given that their tools for experiencing life are either unable to function or are not being used, their desire is quite understandable.
Really? Death ends life, but why isn't it an event in life? Life and death are inextricably linked. After all, a "gift" is literally taken away. Therefore, it is not a gift. And, to be honest, I haven't met many people who are not afraid of death. Yes, their "tools for experiencing" may not be functioning, but the desire to live does not leave them! Here, it is already a literal, animalistic fear of death... in such moments, it is difficult to think about experiencing. The only exception, perhaps, is people whose every day is filled with pain or something similar. They really want death.
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Life is both a challenge and a gift at the same time. Sometimes it's a challenge, and sometimes it's a gift. And if it weren't so, life would be boring. In general, life cannot be expressed with just two concepts, such as challenge and gift.
Really? Death ends life, but why isn't it its event? Life and death are inextricably linked. After all, a "gift" is literally taken away. So, it's not a gift.
Perhaps we're not quite understanding each other, but I'll try to clarify my point. You (is it okay if I use "you"?:o) argued that life is not a gift, but a trial, because life ends in death. But that's not entirely logical. Let me give an example. Suppose a man meets a girl, a beautiful, intelligent, kind, and lovely girl, and he falls in love with her. She reciprocates, and they spend several wonderful years together, and then she falls out of love with him and leaves. And this man says, "Yes, those relationships weren't a gift! Because she left me in the end!" Is such a statement fair? Yes, the breakup was part of the relationship, and it was painful. But weren't the years of their relationship wonderful? Can something be called not good enough just because it "ended"? Is a juicy, delicious piece of meat served for lunch bad just because you've already eaten it and regret that there isn't more? Even if we continue the analogy with gifts that are given (although I think the author of the topic meant "life as a gift" in the sense of "life is wonderful"), is a music player that broke down from old age bad just because it's not eternal? Unseen one;129419
And, to be honest, I haven't met many people who aren't afraid of death. Yes, the "tools of knowledge" are not able to function, but the desire to live does not leave! Here, it's already a literal animal fear of death... in such moments, it's hard to think about knowledge. The only exception, perhaps, is people whose every day is filled with pain or something like that. They really want death.
Don't be so categorical. Maybe you haven't communicated much with elderly people, that is, those who are really tired of life? I've seen some who were full of life, energy, and had a clear mind at 75; but I've also seen those who said every day, "Take me, Lord!" And, frankly, after 70, the latter option is much more common...
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Perhaps we don't quite understand each other, but I'll try to clarify my point.
It's my fault.
You (is it okay if I use "you"?), argued that life is not a gift, but a trial, because life ends in death. But that's not entirely logical.
I didn't claim that life is a trial. I'm still trying to figure out the "gift" aspect. It can't be a trial, at least because people are in very unequal conditions. You (is that okay? ;)), I understand you think life is a gift. But how do you explain the fact that one part of humanity shamelessly enjoys the benefits of life, while the other deals with the consequences of such existence (or simply tries to make ends meet)?
Let me give an example. Let's say a man meets a girl, a beautiful, intelligent, kind, and lovely girl, and he falls in love with her. She reciprocates, they spend several wonderful years together, and then she falls out of love with him and leaves. And this man says: "Yes, those relationships weren't a gift! Because she left me in the end!" Is such a statement fair? Yes, the breakup was part of the relationship, and it was painful. But weren't the years of their relationship wonderful? Can something be called not good enough just because it "ended"?
But look at it from the guy's perspective! He enjoyed years of wonderful relationships, and in the end, he's left with nothing! From an outside perspective, he should enjoy what he had, but he won't be able to. Every memory of their life together will tear open the wound again. When something good ends, especially in THIS way, the pain will be twice as great as the joy, happiness, or whatever....
A juicy, delicious piece of meat served for lunch is bad because you've already eaten it and regret that there isn't more? Even if we continue the analogy with gifts that are given (although I think the author of the topic meant "life as a gift" in the sense of "life is wonderful"), is a music player that has broken down from old age bad just because it's not eternal?
Meat and a music player are completely different things compared to love or life. They are replaceable. You can usually get another piece or buy another player. But what if the piece of meat is the last one? Wouldn't you feel a little sadness? Or, maybe this is absurd, but for example, after a nuclear war, you're sitting in a bunker, listening to the LAST music player, and then... it breaks. That's upsetting.
Don't be so categorical. Maybe you haven't interacted much with elderly people, that is, those who are really tired of life? I've seen some who, at 75, were full of life, energy, and their minds were clear; but I've also seen those who said every day: "Take me, Lord!" And honestly, after 70, the latter option is much more common...
I agree. I haven't really seen many people who are tired of life. Mostly, the elderly people I meet are fanatically trying to be useful to society (I guess I am indeed critical).
Sincerely.
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It all depends on one's perception of the world. For some, it's both a challenge and a gift, while for others, it's just one or the other. For some, it's a series of challenges, and successfully overcoming them leads to a reward. There are good and bad moments, and one should strive to have more rewards. But again, what is a gift for one person can be a real challenge for another.
Life is both a gift and a trial.
Gift: when you have everything – a career, family, money, health.
Trial: when you have none of the material possessions, and poor health further limits your life.
So, the question arises: if life is a trial, is suicide the way out, a chance to start over? BUT! This is where religion comes into play. Those who don't believe are afraid to die. And those who do believe see suicide as a grave sin, so it's better to suffer in this life than in the next.
Therefore, the conclusion is: life (in a global sense) is both a gift and a trial, and that's why there are people on Earth who live and exist.
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Life is an unsolvable problem, composed of small, everyday tasks. The success in solving them determines what your life will be. And we shouldn't forget about Lady Fortune, who can solve any problem with a single, broad smile and turn this period of life into a celebration. But at the same time, life is a gift, and it should be appreciated, because there is nothing more interesting and useful than solving problems of any level, which doesn't prevent us from enjoying simple pleasures - loved ones, favorite activities, and our own opportunities...
P.S. Yes, I'm no philosopher, if anyone understands what I wrote, let them explain it to me :D ;)
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