Evaluating archers. — Polls

badping

11/18/2007 5:57 PM UTC

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You won't believe it: I do, and even better than you. :)

And I'm not breaking the rules of the Russian language. I'm just showing a non-traditional approach to the task. And that has brought me success more than once. B)

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/18/2007 6:57 PM UTC

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I think it shouldn't be done that way because, in a way, he attacks with magic, and if spellcasting is prohibited, then he will be a rather weak unit, as he is very weak without magic.

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Kamikaze

11/18/2007 7:08 PM UTC

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badping;127908

I think so. :) As I mentioned above, Harpy Witches are essentially ranged attackers. And quite powerful ones: they have no penalty for melee combat and can attack at a distance and through walls!
In my opinion, all creatures with a ranged, non-retaliatory attack can be called ranged attackers. Under certain conditions, even an Archdevil can act in a similar way, for example, when, being the fastest creature, it attacks enemy troops at the end of the first round and returns to its original position at the beginning of the second. :)

Harpy Witches are not ranged attackers, neither in essence nor in any other way.
However, ranged attackers and Harpy Witches are similar in their attack technology, but with differences. For example, a Harpy Witch does not have a reserve of "shots," or rather, it is infinite, and it also cannot "shoot" from the upper left position to the lower right. If you think about it, there are probably other differences as well.

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Yser

11/18/2007 7:26 PM UTC

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badping;127908

I think so. :) As I mentioned above, Harpy-Witches are essentially ranged attackers. And what attackers they are: no penalty for melee combat, and they can attack at a distance and through walls!
In my opinion, all creatures with a ranged, non-retaliatory attack can be called ranged attackers. Under certain conditions, even the Archdevil can act in a similar way, for example, when, being the fastest creature, he attacks enemy troops at the end of the first round, and returns to his original position at the beginning of the second. :)

Seriously, you're right about something. :smile20: :smile20: :smile20:
It turns out the poll needs to be redone.

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badping

11/18/2007 8:18 PM UTC

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Witch Harpies aren't ranged attackers.

Really? Seriously?

Actually, read the posts more carefully. I said that their actions are similar to a ranged attack. The fact that the animation is different is just a visual thing. The essence is what matters.
In principle, that's exactly what you wrote in your post. So, what was the point of the first sentence?

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/19/2007 10:32 AM UTC

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In my opinion, Archers are ranged units, and Harpies are simply flying units with retaliatory attacks. It's not a good idea to position them where Archers would be.

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65RUS

11/19/2007 3:01 PM UTC

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In my opinion, arrows are arrows, and harpies are just a flying unit with retaliatory attacks. It's not a good idea to place them where archers would be.

Yeah, if harpies are archers, then who are the real archers?))

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/19/2007 3:22 PM UTC

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We could talk about this for a long time, but the fact remains that harpies are not archers.
Firstly, the animation.
Secondly, they don't have a supply of arrows.
And there might be other nuances that I can't remember right now.

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badping

11/19/2007 4:28 PM UTC

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In this case, only Snipers, Elves, Lizardmen, and Medusas are archers. All other creatures cannot be considered archers in any way. :)

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cR@3y 678098

12/6/2007 12:51 PM UTC

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badping;128232

In that case, only Snipers, Elves, Lizardmen, and Medusas are archers. All other creatures cannot be called archers in any way. :)

Great Elves, then, if we don't count Snipers. Although Medusas can sometimes be helpful.

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M@)(iM

12/6/2007 12:56 PM UTC

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The best ranged attackers are High Elves and Snipers; crossbowmen are probably in second place (at lower levels);
TITANS are #1 and Cyclops are #2 (at higher levels).