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Offline Нэйко
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#1220
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I was worried that Jones or Kraken would try to kill me, so I wanted to pretend that I wasn't Sparrow at all. I was telling them, guys, you can come to me with some Beckett or Priklop, whom I might kick out, if I'm lucky, and put them on your team. I think that was the logic.
Yes, that's understandable, but I'm saying that, among other things, this would give the Mafia a chance, even if they didn't reveal themselves.
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Let's be honest: a kraken can't win. It needs to be left alone, lol. Besides, its kill potential is lower than Jones's and a bunch of other blockers. So, even in a 1v1, it can be killed or permanently stunned.
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Well, at least he got some kills in. 😎
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Aoi Tori (Kraken) kills Morning (Elizabeth Swann) while ignoring external defense.
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Aoi Tori (Kraken) kills Ment (Joshamee Gibbs) while ignoring natural defense.
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Aoi Tori (Kraken) sinks Neko's (Cotton) ship.
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Siverfale (Davy Jones) sends the Kraken after Ple-Sen (Tia Dalma).
These people won't be getting married anytime soon.
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I was waiting for this the whole game... BITE, LIZARD, I HEALED YOU ON THE FIRST NIGHT! AND THE SECOND! YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO RECEIVED HEALING!

Thanks to everyone for the game. I wasn't very active during the day, and I wasn't thinking clearly, so I mostly engaged in shitposting instead of actively playing for the city. A couple of times, though, I made some pretty obvious hints about my role. I hope I made up for it a little with a more or less competent night game. On the third night, I hesitated between the second ultimate and healing, but (as it turned out, wisely) decided that I would definitely be targeted and chose the more reliable option. Which turned out to be useless, due to the difficulty of the clues.
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In general, I think there's a real mistake in the balance regarding these two creatures. The Monkey wins in any case if it's still alive and has gotten rid of the Kraken. And the Kraken doesn't win against anyone at all, and if the Monkey is still alive, it's completely overpowered. In short, the Kraken was in a very unequal situation.
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I think the Kraken should have protection against execution and the ability to win with the Mafia if Jones is still alive. And the Monkey should be able to win with the City if Barbossa is alive and the Kraken is dead. I won't give it protection, because immunity to kills is too strong.
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Honestly, I think there's a real mistake in the balance regarding these two characters. The Monkey wins in any case if it's still alive and has gotten rid of the Kraken.
And the Kraken doesn't win against anyone at all, and if the Monkey is still alive, it's even worse. In short, the Kraken was in a very unequal situation.

It could have easily won
There are 2 key moments here: the Monkey revealing itself in the second night and a slight reveal before the Mafia in the daytime game.
The failure to kill due to the block in the 4th night, where instead of a comfortable ratio of 2-2-1-1, a losing ratio of 3-2-1-1 resulted.
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With all due respect to Kraken, but before, mana units didn't have all these fifty immunities, protections against spells, ultimates, and special win conditions. And somehow, they still won. It was difficult and rare. But each time, it felt like a significant achievement. Nebula seems to be aware of this.
 

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Nevertheless, you could have won with the Mafia, and perhaps even a bit faster. And if the town had wanted to, it really could have executed you and won solo. We'll never know, because with my support, the auto-kill of Beckett was approved.
I don't like bad guys. And you also betrayed me by killing Yashur on the first day.
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Honestly, I think there's a real mistake in the balance regarding these two characters. The monkey wins in any case if it's alive and has gotten rid of the Kraken.
And the Kraken doesn't win against anyone at all, and if the monkey is alive, it's even worse. In short, the Kraken was in a very unequal situation.
That's why you need to read the lore before starting the game.
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