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#889
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The monkey didn't do anything: no stealing, no anything else... Options:
1. Someone stole Revny's hat.
2. Someone stole Revny's weapon and went to Nere/Mold/Kraken.
3. Revny has nothing.
4. The monkey got blocked.

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5. Someone stole Revny's weapon and went to Nere/Mold/Kraken/themselves, passing through Sparrow.

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Sky
Are you sure it's in the block? And could they have stayed home to avoid Kraken's ultimate, as you think?
Let's take a hypothetical Norrington...
For two nights in a row, he wasn't afraid to die instead of someone else, but now he's suddenly afraid of Kraken? I don't believe it...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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#890
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It’s one thing to die while trying to save another city, and quite another to feed the enemy simply by getting caught in Kraken’s ultimate ability.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#891
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So, I put myself in Kraken's shoes...
There's this guy, Plesen...
On the first night, he was in the block, and there were only two peaceful players: Cotton and Tia.
Cotton was targeting Neyra from day one.
Tia should have been eliminated yesterday, or at least blocked...

So, Kraken is sitting there and thinking, "Why is this Plesen still alive? He's either some kind of monkey or Jones. I'm going to take him out..."
It wasn't beneficial for Kraken to eliminate me today, and there's nothing to say about the monkey.

So, we either have a maniac who really loves the game, or he doesn't understand anything, or he's "playing randomly"...

Kosha doesn't make sense because of Locken and Ment, and Siever is possible, but he usually doesn't eliminate inactive players.

But Astral probably needs to be kept in check until something more worthy comes along...

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AstralLein
You once suggested that I was Jones. Jones is dead. I'm not. Now you're suggesting that I'm Kraken. Who will be next?
Sorry, I just didn't realize where your tentacles were coming from... :D

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#892
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Siver - possibly
With Lokken killed on the first day? Doubtful...
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#893
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It’s amusing to dig up old arguments from 2015 and use them as evidence. You could try digging up something from 2010-2012; I enjoyed playing Mafia back then.
А, вот почему.

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#894
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Hmm...
MasteR
If the Kraken uses its ultimate ability on Jack, and he uses "Get Out of Here," and others also come to Jack's aid, only Jack will be defeated (and Jones, if he happens to be there as well).
Master, does the Kraken's ultimate ability bypass natural defense or not?

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Drakkoska
Nice of you to dig up ancient forum posts from 2015 and use them as an argument. You could try digging up even older ones, from 2010-2012.
No... "Ancient forum posts" from 2010-2012 would require rereading all the topics. I wasn't even around on this planet back then. But "ancient forum posts" from 2015 are different. I simply remember what was happening in which forums, so I can find them quickly.
Drakkoska
I used to enjoy playing in those forums.
As a maniac?

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Sky, I have a question for you... Do you think the second block in the newspaper is the work of a monkey, or is it another case of "transits through the fake Kraken, Jack"?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#895
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The Kraken's ultimate ability does not ignore any defense.
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#896
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Which is quite strange, considering that the defender himself will eventually fade away.

Don't punish Artur_w

Nebk's old theory turned out to be incorrect after all. Oh well. Sorry. I shouldn't have been so sure. Kraken seems to be a more prominent candidate.

But I don't know who to punish instead of him.

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We're about to have another season of the Nebo vs. Revan series, and I like them both. And the evidence for both of them doesn't seem very convincing to me yet. I'll wait for more information.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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#897
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Guys, I finally got it.
Ples can't be Jack. Jack discards all his negative effects, and this action is one of the first. Only a couple of roles can break through to him. Even if we assume that in one night he used his ultimate ability and defended himself from Jones, I don't see a reason why he shouldn't have used his negative effect on another night. But we see Ples in both newspapers.
Indeed, it's interesting. So, Ples is really Jones, who released the Kraken on Nera, and it destroyed him on its own? Either he specifically aimed at Jones to break through his defense, or Jones managed to lose it somewhere...


I dug up some clues... Why didn't anyone say that you can easily get to the Swamp Killer from the first newspaper from the Quenty of Koshi?

Starfire - Dick Grayson - Batman - Killer Croc
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Batman follows Croc into the swamps of Louisiana, where an unknown force calls him. It turns out to be the Swamp Thing, who offers Croc a place in the swamps, where he can finally give in to his animal nature, live without being hunted by humans, and lead a peaceful life.

And here's the clue from Gilead:

Gilead's Sharpshooter - Roland Deschain - Drawing of the Three - Eddie Dean
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Because of his suggestibility, Eddie began using drugs and stopped carving wood, although he was quite good at it.
John "Sonny" Edwardson
Hobby: wood carving
However, the clue is written as "produced by the dangerous kid of Gilead's Sharpshooter." How should this be understood? At first, I thought about Roland's revolvers, and then I noticed this in the article about Eddie:
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After long travels with Roland, the young man changes his attitude towards him: instead of the hatred that arose because of the loss of his brother and Eddie's inability to return to his world, trust emerges. Eddie Dean learns a lot from Roland and decides to help him in the search for the Dark Tower. Later, Roland tells Eddie that he has become a real sharpshooter. Lying on his deathbed, Eddie thanks Roland for giving him a second chance and calls Roland his father.

What do you think?
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#899
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Zlobny Yashchur

Hey, what do you think...
Do you think the second clue in the newspaper is the work of an amateur or are there again some "transits through the false Kraken Jack"?..
I immediately stated my version, and it hasn't changed.

/post/1259042/

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Zlobny Yashchur

There's this guy called Plesen'...
He sat in the room for the first night; there were only two peaceful roles: Cotton and Tia.
Maybe Ples was actually Tia. What do you think?

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I dug up some clues... Why didn't anyone say that you can easily get from Koshi's quent to the swamp killer from the first newspaper?

Starfire - Dick Grayson - Batman - Killer Croc
She gave a similar clue herself. But yours is definitely better.

/post/1258280/

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However, the clue is written as "produced by the dangerous kid Strela from Gilead." How should we understand this? At first, I thought about Roland's revolvers, then I noticed it again in the article about Eddie:
This was discussed on the very first day.

/post/1257574/

The fact that something was produced is most likely just part of the literary description. The clue refers to a specific character. I decided it was Mordred. But it could also be Eddie Dean.
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Because of his suggestibility, Eddie started using drugs and stopped doing wood carving
But you can't get from wood carving to Eddie Dean – it's a dead end. And there are many such dead-end branches.

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Who doesn't think Ples was Tia?
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#900
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I tried to find a clue based on the Astral's quest, but I couldn't find anything except "created the perfect concubine from parts of women's bodies," which led me to consider "Frankenstein's Monster" as a starting point. But that's not important; I moved on to Galatea and saw this:

You can laugh at the faces on the right.

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное - Список НПС -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - ЭмилияСтэфания - Амвросий - ЛестерАльсираАлария

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#901
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I don't know who Ples is, but the description is more similar to Jones.

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Oswald would be offended by the comparison of his works to the monster Frankenstein) But yes, it's funny.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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#902
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Nah... "Mammoth poop" from 2010-2012 – you'd have to reread all the threads for that. I wasn't even around on this planet back then.
But "mammoth poop" from 2015 is a different story. I just remember what was in which Mafia game, so I find things quickly.
Then you can dig up the threads from when we revived the Mafia, in 2020. At that time, I would have, at best, four posts in the games: "I'm signing up for the last spot so the game can start," "I got a role," "Okay, there's a lone wolf, replace me," and "Congrats, guys." Much more relevant information, you know.
I dug up some clues... Why didn't anyone say that you can easily get from Quentyn Koshi to the Swamp Killer from the first newspaper?

Starfire - Dick Grayson - Batman - Killer Croc
Okay, I'm busted, I confess, I'm the Mafia.

Actually, the chain is not that great. Mainly because of Batman, to whom about 95% of the clues easily and naturally connect, because Batman is a very popular character with an extensive mythology. Plus, I would have started attracting attention to myself by creating similar chains the other day, lol. I'm a comedian, but not a crazy one.
А, вот почему.

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#903
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Sky
She herself provided similar evidence. But yours is definitely better.

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I'm also interested in why you didn't identify this connection yourself if you were actually investigating the clue. I found it literally in 5 minutes.
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It’s just impossible to go from wood carving to Eddie Dean – that’s a dead end.
But is there really a need for a direct link between the article on wood carving and Eddie Dean? This is no longer part of the wiki chain; it’s direct text from the quest.
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Who doesn't think Ples was Tia?
I have serious doubts about whether Kraken would suddenly decide to specifically kill Ples-Jones instead of using his ultimate ability. That makes no sense at all. In theory, he could accidentally hit him with his ultimate if Jones also directed his ultimate towards the same unfortunate Neyra, but again, that means someone somewhere messed up the defense. That's also a very specific scenario. And since Tia is clearly not a fighter, it makes sense that she wouldn't resist. So yes, now I'm leaning towards the version that Ples was indeed Tia.