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Offline kolianxxxxxx
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Over the past month, I played about 40 games in the online lobby with a rating ranging from 0 to 400. I only encountered one player who wasn't entirely reasonable, but even he surrendered normally. All the others, even with a rating of 0-100, were quite decent; no one was rude, gave negative ratings, or left the game.
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Judging by this post, you're getting negative ratings not because people are offended, but because of your arrogance and aggression. Try to communicate normally.
I don't write anything in the chat except for trade numbers for the city, "+" and "go." "Do not judge, and you will not be judged." You're probably not a Christian, since you write such things.
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In the last month, I've played about 40 games in the lobby with a rating from 0 to 400. I only encountered one person who wasn't quite adequate, and even he surrendered normally. All the others, even at ratings of 0-100, were quite reasonable, no one was rude, gave negative ratings, or left the game.
What does "giving a negative rating" mean? No one gives it; it's added automatically if you're added to the blacklist. This is a ridiculously stupid system. I asked about this on VK, and they told me that they consider this system normal. I specifically created a new account and played one game, if you can even call it a game. On the 114th turn, the opponent surrendered, and I got a -1. I didn't even write anything to him in the chat; it was a random room without restarts. All I wrote in the chat was "go." So, your worldview is based on your personal experience, and don't try to extend it to everyone. These pluses and minuses have become very important for some people. After the final battle, one unranked golem wrote "gg," confirmed the loss, and closed the game. You can't write anything to him because the chat becomes unavailable for typing if the person is offline. He didn't leave a password, so I logically added him to my blacklist an hour later; I don't need him in the next game, and I don't want to play with someone who leaves like that. Two days later, I log into the game, and the golem has controlled his +5, which has decreased to +4, and he adds me to his blacklist as well. If you see this as normal and orderly, then I see a flaw in it. Cheers.
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I don't write anything in the chat except for trade numbers for the city, "+" and "go." "Do not judge, and you will not be judged." You probably aren't a Christian, since you write such things.
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What does "putting a minus" mean? No one puts it; it's added automatically if you're added to the blacklist. It's a fantastically stupid system. I asked about this on VK, and they replied that they consider this system normal. I specifically created a new account and played one game, if you can even call it a game. At 114 players, I get a -1. I didn't even write anything to him in the chat; it was a random room without restarts. All I wrote in the chat was "go." So, your worldview is based on your personal experience, and don't try to extend it to everyone. These pluses and minuses have become very important to some. After a final game, one unranked golem wrote "gg," confirmed the loss, and closed the game. You can't write anything to him because the chat becomes unavailable for typing if the person is offline. He didn't leave a password, so I logically added him to the blacklist an hour later. Why would I need him next time? I don't want to play with someone who leaves like that. Two days later, I log into the game, and the golem has checked his +5, which has decreased to +4, and he adds me to the blacklist too. If you see this as normal and orderly, I see a flaw in it. Bye.
The person who first gives a negative rating complains about getting a negative rating in return. LOL, WHAT? And what do cheaters have to do with it? P.S. I actually like this system with negative ratings; I played with a couple of players with -36 and -37 ratings just for fun. One was like a roadblock, the other was rushing aggressively. So, if you see a rating of -10 or higher, you can safely avoid playing to avoid ruining your mood.
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Offline Marmot
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What does "putting a minus" mean? No one actually does it; it's automatically added if you're blacklisted. It's a ridiculously stupid system. I asked about this on VK, and they told me they consider this system normal.
But that's just facepalm-worthy! If that's really how it works. Although, if I remember correctly, there was something similar on Habr: when a heated debate breaks out in the comments section of a post, those whose opinions many disagree with are denied the right to comment (or something like that; I don't remember the details, but it was a similarly stupid and unfair system). Luckily, I'm not among the participants there.
And in general: any communication system without proper moderation and adequate moderators is doomed to become a cesspool. Especially if a significant portion of the participants are morally immature (usually schoolchildren, but not only). And any imperfection in the existing system will inevitably be exploited for abuse by such immature individuals, which is what we're seeing (or rather, what those who are registered there are seeing – I'm not there either).
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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(or rather, those who are registered there can see it - I'm not there either).
What if it would be more reasonable to register first, get at least a basic understanding of what's what - and only then write?
The situation there is generally much closer to what Pridu, Kolyan, and Benis wrote than to what Aviari wrote.
At the beginning, up to level 150, I also had (sometimes!) problems figuring out who was who and building up a positive reputation, but gradually, distance, deliberately careful communication, even with "psychos," and a reasonable choice of opponents do the trick. Well, if there are problems with this... then I also think that the problem is not with the lobby :rolleyes:
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Offline Marmot
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No, I won't register there just to see everything myself. You answer me: how and why is it connected that a player added someone to their personal blacklist, and the player's rating? And who came up with this?
emphasizing polite communication, even with unstable individuals
Seriously? Do you want everyone who doesn't want problems to fawn over unstable individuals? Why should anyone communicate with unstable individuals, except for their treating physicians? And can I have a list of those who want to? I'm just having trouble explaining to you what's wrong here if you don't want to see it. Maybe someone else can explain it.
The only solution to any problems with unstable individuals is: a ban. Preferably with parameters that make it difficult to create a clone.
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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Offline korovka1987
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How and why is there a connection between a player adding someone to their personal blacklist and the player's rating?
There isn't any. These are two different ratings.
One is the main rating, which depends on the number of wins/losses and the strength of the opponents. It doesn't go below 0.
The other depends on the number of people who enjoyed playing with you (they add you as a friend) or with whom you no longer want to play for various reasons (toxic players, unstable players, quitters, noobs) (adding to the blacklist).
There are players with a rating of -40; naturally, it doesn't make sense to start a game with them; it's a waste of time.
The same applies to the Soda Lobby.
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Offline genie.
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Most of them are quite reasonable, but every 20 games or so, you encounter an unreasonable person. The downsides mentioned above are accurate; they often downvote even when I notice they have a karma score of 100.
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guys, a player left the game, where should I send the screenshots? Help!

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How do I send screenshots about the leaver, and where should I send them? Please tell me.
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Guys, one of my players left the game. Where should I send the screenshots? Help!

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How do I send screenshots of the leaver, and where should I send them? Please tell me.
hotaleavers@gmail.com
Send the screenshots here and describe the problem.
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Offline ElRey
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Cheater, he farmed moves and experience, what a jerk. He needs to be banned immediately.



Nickname: MrAmazink

I made a video exposing him and uploaded it to YouTube. You can see the moves and where he farmed experience - https://youtu.be/xjWshkL2vjw
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Offline [VoDa]Kapitoshka
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Could you please tell me where to submit a complaint about leaving a game? I follow the links, but I can't find where to send the complaint.

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hotaleavers@gmail.com
Send screenshots and describe the problem here.
How do I send it to this address? It redirects me to Yandex Mail and says there is no such user.
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You need to send an email from YOUR email address to this one. And it seems you want to access this inbox. The inbox exists (according to the check on 2ip.ru).
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
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You need to send an email from YOUR email address to this one. And it seems like you want to log in to this account. The account exists (according to a check on 2ip.ru).
I also wrote to Gmail, and there is no such account.
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