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10/24/2007 2:08 PM UTC

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Centaur units will defeat any level 1 unit under equal conditions – this is their undeniable advantage, but what will they do against a large number of skeletons?

Stop, stop!! Aren't halberdiers the strongest at level 1???:confused:
And as for legions of skeletons... well, I don't think gnolls can do anything... unless there are as many of them)
Oops, mistake)) sorry, not gnolls, but centaurs, although the difference is small).

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10/24/2007 2:24 PM UTC

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Hold on, hold on! Aren't halberdiers the strongest at level 1? :confused:

Centaurs. They have higher speed, the same amount of hit points, and, as far as I remember, higher damage, but definitely not less.

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Registered: 3/5/2007 8:31 AM UTC

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10/24/2007 2:28 PM UTC

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Centaurs. They have higher speed, the same number of hit points, and, as far as I remember, higher damage, but definitely not less.

They have the same number of hit points, higher speed, and I'm not sure about the attack... but the Alabardiers seem to have higher defense, so they are more durable.

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10/24/2007 3:04 PM UTC

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Of course, everyone has their own opinion, and you're right about that, Ley. But personally, I find that I play best with the Swamp Castle.
I generally agree with those who believe that there are no weak or strong Castles, just that you need to know how to use the advantages of each Castle and how to find all the weaknesses of your opponent. For example, the Stronghold, i.e., the Barbarians, also has many advantages: a good "offensive" specialization for the Castle, heroes, and creatures, the ability to hire a Ballista and a War Wagon in the same city, the Guild of Mercenaries, and the abilities of the creatures. But I play worse with this Castle than with the Swamp Castle, because it's easier to develop the economy with the Swamp Castle. Also, it's usually less problematic to get the wood needed to build a Wyvern Tower than to get 20 crystals for Cyclops.
In general, the Stronghold and the Swamp Castle are two opposing Castles. You could say that one cancels out the advantages of the other, i.e., Attack compensates for Defense. In my opinion, it's harder to play against the Stronghold with the Swamp Castle than with other Castles (all other things being equal).

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Registered: 10/11/2007 3:26 PM UTC

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10/24/2007 8:35 PM UTC

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The coolest castle is the Stronghold! But the strongest are the Elves and Titans! You can check it yourself. Also, the Swamp faction is cool – I pay tribute to the most fearsome killer of all Elder creatures – the mighty Gorgon.

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10/24/2007 8:53 PM UTC

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Are you saying that the strongest Castles are Rampart and Tower, or are you talking about the strongest creatures? Please clarify.

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10/24/2007 9:02 PM UTC

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Centaurs. They have higher speed, the same amount of hit points, and, as far as I remember, higher damage, but definitely not less.

Speed is the deciding advantage in this case... It's hard to attack them from a distance, oh, it's really hard.:smile21:

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Registered: 10/11/2007 3:26 PM UTC

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10/25/2007 9:47 AM UTC

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Yes, I meant the castles themselves. The Rampart is slightly stronger than the Tower, but it all depends on the player's experience...

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Registered: 7/29/2006 7:41 PM UTC

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10/25/2007 10:04 AM UTC

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I meant the castles in general. Rampart is slightly stronger than Tower, but it all depends on the player's experience...

That's a strange way to put it... :) Then, rank all the castles by points (like: 1 - Rampart; 2 - Titan, etc.) and you'll see a lot of new things from other forum users' posts... - someone will agree with you on something, and someone will try to refute your words with their own arguments...

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10/25/2007 2:15 PM UTC

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I play as Necropolis and Conflux, those are my favorite factions... nothing can be done about it.

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Registered: 2/19/2007 6:16 AM UTC

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10/25/2007 3:07 PM UTC

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I can't say for sure which is stronger, the Tower or the Rampart. But the Tower, for example, has three archers and good magic, while the Rampart has strong units, including elves and golden dragons. Everything else depends on the players.

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10/25/2007 5:56 PM UTC

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I can't say who is stronger, Tower or Rampart. But Tower, for example, has three archers and good magic, while Rampart has strong units, elves, and gold dragons. Everything else depends on the players.

Exactly, that's what I mean. Only the elves have strong units, and magic generally doesn't affect them much. What about the third-level archer for the Titans? :smile18: Goblins:smile18:? Show me someone who takes first-level units with them in the late game! That's ridiculous! First-level units are mostly only good as cannon fodder in the late game, although centaurs and halberdiers can still be helpful, but I prefer to take other warriors instead for two reasons: first, they are weak, and second, they slow down the hero. It's better to take someone who is really needed at the moment, for example, if you need a strong, heavy unit to protect the archers (and no first-level unit can do that), I usually take either a minotaur, an ogre, or a dendroid. They will protect the archers and help the main forces in battle, and if the ogres also cast Bloodlust. From the first level, it makes sense to take only Rampart and Necromancer units; halberdiers and centaurs, as the strongest representatives of the level, can at least be of some help, but skeletons... it doesn't matter if you take them or not, they will come after the battle anyway. The Titans have their own advantages against Rampart, but Rampart still has more, and Rampart will give any castle a big advantage, perhaps except for Conflux and the Dungeon (these castles are the most inconvenient for someone playing as Rampart).

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10/25/2007 7:36 PM UTC

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Well, you know, the Gremlins being effective for the first three weeks of the game is a pretty strong argument, and about the first-level units at the end of the game... well, I use them. Because there are so many of them, and after someone launches a counterattack, you can finish off someone very effectively... and you can only look for someone else to add to your army if you have another castle with a good growth rate, and if it's worth it to lower your morale.

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Registered: 7/29/2006 7:41 PM UTC

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10/25/2007 7:56 PM UTC

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And who is the 3rd archer for the Titans? Goblins? Show me someone who carries a level 1 unit with them in the late game! That's ridiculous! Level 1 units are mostly only good for cannon fodder in the late game, and nothing more.

Hmm... maybe, but in offline mode, you usually don't reach the late game; therefore, the first level is the foundation, and in particular, the master goblin is very useful for clearing territory and destroying small enemy forces.

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Although, I prefer to take other warriors in their place for 2 reasons: 1) they are weak, 2) they slow down the hero. It's better to take someone who is really needed at the moment, for example, I usually take either a minotaur, an ogre, or a dendroid.

Yeah... Captain-centaurs (speed 9) or ogres with dendroids (speed 5), which of them slows down the hero, do you think? :)

RUH-CHUDISCHE-OGR;120981

The Titans have their own advantages against the Rampart, but the Rampart has more, and the Rampart will give any castle a big advantage, perhaps except for the Conflux and the Dungeon (these castles are the most inconvenient for those playing as the Rampart).

Interesting theory about the Rampart's superiority over the Titans, and about the Conflux with the Dungeon... - can you argue your point?

Sincerely.

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Registered: 11/12/2006 4:34 PM UTC

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10/25/2007 9:29 PM UTC

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Yeah... Captain Centaurs (speed 9) or Ogres with Dryads (speed 5), which one slows down the army more, what do you think...? :)

I was just about to write the same thing :D
But the upgraded Centaurs have a speed of 8, and the Dryads have a speed of 4.

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