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#543
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Well, by the way, the possibility that Yashur wasn't the third victim is plausible, considering how it's written. But there's no guarantee that it was a successful treatment for Albea, rather than Aulus's natural defense, while I was the target of ND Shizuo.
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#544
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So, the activation of defensive abilities isn't displayed...
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#545
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Here's another possible scenario, although it's a bit of a complex one. Perhaps Inar was setting a trap for himself, figuring that if the Mafia came after him, they would die from the bomb and be unable to do anything. But that would mean that the previous night, Inar was still setting the bomb, rather than isolating himself. He might even have been setting it on himself again, hoping to isolate himself the following night and set the detonation for the night after that. But that's a very risky, although amusing, style of play.

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It seems that the activation of the protection isn't being displayed...
For some reason, I thought it was just being displayed without a name. If that's the case, then the only remaining options are healing Albea or Shizuo.
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#546
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Anyway, I'm going to sleep. Most likely, it will be another Night of the Living Dead game if Master or Nefela don't dig up some incredibly compelling evidence against Inar...

Ples, I like your line of thinking and your activity. Even if you're a Mafia member, I want to continue playing with you, so in the next couple of days, if there isn't obvious evidence against you, I don't want to execute you and will defend you from attacks.
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#547
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There are too many low-quality posts from Tox... If it weren't for the last couple of messages with constructive feedback, it would have been quite uncomfortable.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Ugh, Tox, I just don't understand the logic in your message about Alma. Both in relation to you and in relation to Ment. And although I think I had dismissed the possibility of you being a blocker based on your posts, I can't remember where exactly. It seems like you're clinging to the only possible lifeline right now. Okay, let's do this. If Shendet isn't you, let Shendet block Tox. If you are, block someone else. Inar won't have time to plant a bomb, so it will be relatively safe (unless he planted a bomb on you on the second night with a timer for the fourth, but I highly doubt that). If you're not mafia, the mafia might try to block you to prevent you from being completely revealed. Basically, based on the newspaper showing two blocks, one of which is on you and the other on someone else, I'll understand that you're actually town. That outcome wouldn't be beneficial for the mafia. Do you agree with this plan? I also have some thoughts about Necoran. I find it strange that on the second night, instead of raising a minion, he used dark magic on Crabbi. Why is it strange? Because instead of providing protection for himself and creating additional difficulties for the town and the mafia, Necoran deprived Crabbi of his action, who wasn't particularly active in the discussion and might not have had any actions at all. This narrowed the circle of suspects for the serial killer, and the town received additional information. This looks more like a random action than something well-thought-out, or perhaps based on some personal motives. I wouldn't be surprised if Gumer is Necoran. It's more complicated with Inar. For now, there's only one clue. Today, I'll try to analyze it further and check Ple-Sen's solution. Fortunately, the circle of suspects has already been narrowed down. I'm a little concerned that I'm among those who haven't been visited by anyone with a revealed role.
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#549
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Nekoran deprived Krabby of actions, who wasn't particularly active in the game and might not have had any actions at all.

Yes, that's true, the move is indeed rather strange. It can only be justified by the fact that a quiet, inactive player has much less chance of encountering a talisman than active players, i.e., Krabby is a relatively safe option.

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instead of raising a minion

Before the start of the second day, one of the roles being considered for Ney was Piona, which Nekoran is simply unable to raise as a minion. Furthermore, as long as Theodore is alive (all of whose functions are aimed at neutralizing Neko-neko), they essentially cancel each other's actions in the sense that on the next night, Theodore goes to perform an exorcism, and Nekoran simply skips the night without achieving any results. Black magic seems like a more significant and disruptive option, even if there is a chance of encountering a talisman.

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#550
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Ple-Sen

Peryny -> Sardanapal -> Assyria -> Jewish Kingdom -> David -> Medj's avatar

Overall, the chain is quite good, with a clear direct and reverse connection. The only thing that seems a bit off is the lack of a direct link from David to the Jewish Kingdom, but the kingdom itself is mentioned many times. It's a perfectly acceptable option.
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#551
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Yashchura isolated Dario.
Here, by the way, it's interesting, are you 100% sure about this particular interpretation, Tox?
Why are you so sure that you understand correctly where the blocks are in the newspapers and where the isolations are... The question is more rhetorical.
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Okay, let's do this. If Shendet is not you, let Shendet block Tox. If you are, block someone else.
We should be catching the maniacs, not blocking a hypothetical unblockable Lo...
I suggest that Shendet decides on two different targets for the two cases. Both should be candidates for being maniacs, the more likely, the better. There really shouldn't be any explosives tonight, so you can safely go to anyone and get as much information as possible.
 

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Ple-Sen

Before the start of the second day, one of the roles being considered for Ney was Piona, whom Necoran simply cannot raise as a minion. Furthermore, as long as Theodore is alive (all of whose functions are aimed at neutralizing Necoro-neko), they essentially cancel each other out in the sense that the next night, Theodore goes to perform an exorcism, and Necoran simply skips the night without achieving any results. Black magic seems like a more significant and disruptive option, even if there is a chance of encountering a talisman.


Yes, but if we assume that Piona is dead, why not use the ultimate ability on a hypothetical Ment to eliminate 90% of the players from the game? Why not use role identification instead of black magic to identify Theodore as quickly as possible?

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Kills the selected player, ignoring any defensive mechanisms, and makes them their puppet. Once per game.

Revan, does it ignore the talisman and immunity?

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Actually, yes, the move is indeed strange. It can only be justified by the fact that a quiet, inactive player has a much lower chance of encountering a talisman than active players, i.e., Crabby is a relatively safe option.


A quiet, inactive player could theoretically have put a talisman on themselves
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#553
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The Eye, in essence, is a rather useless non-damage ability, as it is also blocked by the talisman, and even if it hits a player, black magic might not reveal its role, but it will definitely take the player out of the game.
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#554
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Okay, let's **execute MedjersoN_HP** for now, based on the available evidence. If I don't find anything better. As for Tox, I think we should stick to the current plan. We still need information about the Maffia. Blocking Necoran might not yield any results, as he has an invisible non-disclosure. Blocking Inar might also be useless – either he won't be revealed at all, or he'll disrupt the bomb setup, and we won't know about it.
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#555
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Master, do you agree with my proposal?
We need to choose two nicknames from the list, like this:
Mold
MedjersoN_HP
Nefela
Morning
Tiel
Arandor
Heroist
MasteR
Me
These are my personal preferences.
Medj – it was a minor consideration why he wasn't Mafia. He could be a Man in principle, but that also attracts too much attention...
Nefela – she quickly found a clue on Sky-Diamond (I think that solution is correct), but nothing followed regarding Inar, so anything is possible.
Loken – maybe I'm judging him based on an outdated case, but in Tox's Mafia, he really carried the town, but now he's quiet... He might have cooled down towards Mafia, or he might have been overwhelmed by the newspapers, but it's worth paying attention to him.
Gumer – sending someone to kill a potential candidate at night doesn't seem like a great idea, although nothing prevents him from being a Man... Right? He was on the second day, does anyone remember?
Arandor – well, he shows up, tells jokes. Nothing prevents him from being a Serial Killer, I would say.
Heroist – I thought he was revealing himself with a certain role, but now I'm not sure. He's still a bit closer to the white zone...
Master – closer to the white zone.
Mold – he's very active during the day. Maybe he missed being in the Mafia, but I would prefer not to touch him.

I would send the elf Isin to Loken and Arandor, in short.
 

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The Necoran block might not say anything; it has an invisible ND. The Inar block might also not say anything – either it won't display at all, or it will disrupt the bomb setup, and we won't know about it.
But if you don't try to attract new players with NDs at all, and just keep going to Tox all the time, will there be a ton of information?
 

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But if you don't try to attract new players with NDs at all, and just keep going to Tox all the time, will there be a ton of information?

Well, let Shizuo block Locken, and Shendet either block Tox or Arandor. If a third block appears in the newspaper, it means Tox is most likely at peace. How about that as an option?