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CIS 2021 tournament in Moscow. Are you interested?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2020-11-16
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Yes, let’s take a look at Moscow – it’s about time!
26.1% 6 votes
No, we’re only going to St. Petersburg – there’s no way back from there!
73.9% 17 votes
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#16
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30-40 locals? Kirill, wake up, even out of the 14 people who voted for St. Petersburg, only 5 are locals... if you want, you can count at your leisure how many locals/non-locals there were at CIS 2020. I really hope that for CIS 2022 you will gather your strength and show these guys from St. Petersburg how it should be done. P.S. I would first consider the option of Korolev.
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evil_romantic
30-40 locals?
Roma, you missed the word "if" in the context, and all the other words. The main point here is that Muscovites didn't show any interest this year (at least those you communicated with) - and my weak attempt was more of a way to clear my conscience that a hypothetical alternative to St. Petersburg existed - but the active part of the audience made its decision.
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MerlinTheMagician
Since this year, Moscow has unanimously failed – I'm talking about the leading figures who all said they don't want to do anything and have no intention of doing so.
This is the main problem why a CIS tournament in Moscow hasn't happened yet – the lack of decent local organizers who can get off their backsides, travel around to check out venues in person, make a down payment from their own pocket, even if only partially. And, in the end, organize other people to help. Moscow is a big city, and to find the right option for our needs, a huge amount of work needs to be done, and you need to be ready to dive into it headfirst. Until someone appears who says, "I'm responsible for everything, and I'll solve everything" (not Vigo), the process of holding a CIS tournament in Moscow will continue to be up in the air.

I also don't like how St. Petersburg was presented. Here's the thing: the down payment needs to be made in 3 days. As a true "vatnik" (a derogatory term for a Russian nationalist), I don't like quick and instant decisions. I perceive this approach as: "No one is doing anything, there's a working option, and the CIS tournament will be there." That is, it's simply a statement of fact that the CIS tournament will be in St. Petersburg. I'm not saying that's bad, it's just a fact. Therefore, I, like many others, don't see the point in expressing my opinion because it seems that everything has already been decided, and people are just booking accommodation. For most people, the location doesn't matter at all; they'll go wherever, even to Kaliningrad or Vladivostok.
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About 2 and a half weeks before the deadline for the prepayment, I asked around if anyone knew if there were people willing to organize the CIS tournament for 2021. The answer was negative. Around this time, the company that was helping me find a venue for the November tournament asked if we were interested in any resort facilities. I replied that yes, we could consider it. They offered me 5 options. While I was still deciding, 2 of the facilities were taken, and I went with a lieutenant to inspect the remaining 3. For our purposes, the northern shore seemed ideal – water, excellent internet, very close to the city, and lots of other entertainment options. I agreed that we would give them an answer within the next 2 weeks and asked them to hold the facility for us. At the November event, I asked again if anyone had heard whether Moscow would be submitting an application – the answer was negative. After that, I called the resort, said that it was preliminarily suitable for us, and asked them to hold it for another week, and I posted an announcement on the forum. Judging by the results of the vote and the communication in private messages, people supported this option, so tomorrow we will make the prepayment (without it, no one will hold the facility for us anymore) and sign the contract. The fact that Moscow didn't manage to agree, even on submitting an application, is disappointing. That's all I can say. I hope that the 2022 tournament will be organized better.
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Actually, I agree with you on everything. Just one question. Why wasn't I included in any of the categories in these surveys? It's a bit disappointing. Regarding the first point, I would have immediately given you all the details.
zloy_romantik
About 2 and a half weeks before the deadline with prepayment, I asked people if anyone knew if there were people willing to create a CIS 2021 version. The answer was negative...
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and people supported this option in private messages
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To be honest, you still feel like you’re living in Novosibirsk to me.
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Весна 2012.