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#2093
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What about the opinion that the coolest works of art are those that are good for children? And if you write (it was about writers) for adults, then you're just mediocre?
I'm hearing this opinion for the first time. I, for example, love "Neznaika on the Moon," but I definitely wouldn't call it the coolest work of art. And in general, children have terrible taste, so I don't see anything great in trying to cater to their tastes.
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I wanted to mention the source, but I couldn't remember it, and I couldn't find it on Google either. But it was someone very well-known. Even then, I thought it was an obvious falsehood. I was even indignant because my favorite author clearly isn't a children's writer. But at the same time, I thought there might be a grain of truth. Maybe even two. First: a broader (including age) target audience is greater than a narrower one. This doesn't always outweigh the other pros and cons of a work, and it rarely does, but it's worth keeping in mind. Second: an adult's opinion isn't necessarily more authoritative than a child's. That is, yes, you said that from your point of view, the film is below par, and even from the director's point of view, it might be below par. But why is the director's opinion or your opinion today more authoritative than your eight-year-old self's opinion? And even if it is more authoritative (I can agree with that, with reservations, meaning that a child's opinions are more easily changed by external factors and are less stable), then why shouldn't the latter's opinion be valid (I can't agree with that at all)? So, for me, this film with post-irony (if you're right about the director's intention) also contains post-post-irony – in the end, the film turned out to be, apparently, decent, partially refuting the post-ironic intention. Well, partially, of course, not completely.
 

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A niche audience that understands the nuances of a particular work of art is better than a broad audience of philistines.

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I meant

a wide audience (including some who are connoisseurs) > a narrow audience (it doesn't really matter if they are connoisseurs or not; equating all adults to connoisseurs would also be absurd)

Then it's an obvious statement based on mathematics.
 

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wide audience = narrow audience = haters

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This is truly not a film for everyone. To judge it with full commitment as a nostalgic, being a serious fan and dissecting every frame, is not just a mistake, but an initial waste of energy in a completely wrong direction. The film is not about directing, searching for some kind of logic, or about deep themes, but about a near-apocalyptic atmosphere of neon-acidic decadence, which sharply contrasts with the reality of the real world and your expectations of a typical film about Batman from that era. Yes, with a touch of post-ironic humor about the cinematic genre of comics as such, but I don't consider it the main factor. And yet, it is still the best, most energetic, and funniest Batman film out of all the old ones; there's nothing to even discuss here. I think the main problem with the film's low rating among the public is that, in fact, it's a film from the twentieth century about comics and for children, and it's not designed for a demanding adult audience. But the modern Marvel industry, which has raised several generations of fans, "as if" no longer implies that you take your children to the cinema to see the Avengers, but gives you the illusion that you have a fantastic triple-A action movie here, which you watch on your own at the age of 25+ as a serious film, and you can even discuss it later over a Coca-Cola with other overweight guys, make a video analyzing the plot twists for a YouTube channel, and sit in threads discussing it on Reddit. As a result, you feel dissonance, trying to evaluate old films according to the same standards, although they had a different purpose. In this regard, the other old Batman films will look more favorably against the backdrop of Schumacher's film, because in them, Batman jumps from a roof into an alley, delivers a couple of blows to a gangster, and for the next half hour, we see him wandering in a black T-shirt through the dusty corridors of the mansion and reflecting, while the Joker/Penguin/Two-Face make faces, have fun with women, and smoke cigars, delivering the same cringeworthy one-liners, all in a black and gray color scheme – supposedly more serious. Nevertheless, in childhood, it was very boring to watch this stuff; that is, the films even performed their basic function very poorly, unlike Schumacher's spectacle of meta-irony.
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At first, I thought it was some kind of pasta about the Green Elephant, but adapted for Batman.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Tenet (2020). The film is long, but this length is quite justified; first, we are led to the events and shown a typical action movie. It seems like the film is just ordinary nonsense, but then it begins to develop its main idea. The film has a good idea, but it is difficult to judge the implementation – everything is noisy, explosions, everyone is running somewhere, so I didn't have time to understand whether they did a bad job with the implementation, or everything is correct, I'm just too slow. I will definitely watch it again when it comes out on DVD and I can pause at each moment and think about whether it is well done or not. I could watch a review on YouTube right now, but somehow I didn't even try to figure it out myself.
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Did you go to the movies with your wife?
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Triple Frontier (2019)
Beautiful visuals, good cinematography, and pleasant musical accompaniment – the film has a very decent presentation. In terms of content, it's an action movie with an idea and a moral. Although the moral is quite obvious, it's not explicitly stated, which I liked because, in my opinion, in such films, someone always says the obvious thing out loud. Personally, I enjoyed watching it, both the action scenes and everything else, although many complain that everything except the shootouts is boring. There's also a cool twist somewhere between the second and third acts of the film – it was unexpected. Although it's two hours long, it was easy to watch. 7/10
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#2103
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Did you go to the movies with your wife?
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#2104
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With Ben Affleck.
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#2105
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With his wife

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Tenet (2020)
Starring: Elizabeth Debicki
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