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6 years ago
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Name: Secret Mission
Map Name: Secret Mission
Map Type: Scenario
Dungeon: Present
Players: 3
Size: Small
Map Author: Arseny Adamov
Map Description: From this story, you will learn how the Orcs came to be...

Attention! I haven't seen a thread about this mission anywhere, as, created by one of the developers, it never made it into the list of single-player scenarios in the patch. So, I'm posting it based on the fact that a secret mission might be very interesting to people. My name is mentioned in connection with the fact that I packed it all together, manually assembling the pieces by date into a single .h5m map. Huge thanks to GodRick, who found this map, and to Vadim Tsimbal and 13ga, who did its translation.
Here is the information about the map, left by the developer:
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-- Creation Date: 29.01.07
-- Author: Arseny Adamov
-- Author e-mail: Arseny.Adamov@nival.com
-- Project Name: H5A2
-- Map Name: A2C0M1 */For greater convenience, I renamed it to Secret Mission/*
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6 years ago
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I think our modder, Alexey Pankov, posted it somewhere, but I don't remember where exactly.
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AstralLein
I think our modder, Alexey Pankov, posted it somewhere, but I don't remember where exactly.
When you remember and show me the topic, I will gladly delete it. It would be a shame for a good mission to be lost.
6 years ago
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Could you briefly summarize the plot? I don't have the opportunity to launch the map and play through it in the game right now.
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6 years ago
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The mage Narhiz creates Orcs from humans and demons. You will control them. "The mission will tell you how the Orcs came to be..." - map description.
5 years ago
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The author's part of the map is done professionally. A well-thought-out story, beautiful landscapes, a balance of power that allows you to play in various styles – it's a pleasure to play. This map is a bright spark from a long-extinct star. As for the new content, it's an example of the difference between an artist and a painter. The Russian translation is incredibly sloppy; the phrases were run through an automatic translator and inserted without being read.

Capture the Imps. Hire Gremlins and place Gremlins in the city.” - The verb forms don't match. The action in the script is a one-time event.
Capture the Horned Demons, Nightmares…” - the same.
Capture the Hero-Villain,” in another place “requires a Villain-Hero-Hero” - what kind of strange creature is this? It's as if Russian isn't their native language. In the original, it says Villain Hero – for those who understand, feel the difference.
Mighty Mage, I will fight only…”. In all other places, the mage was Great, and the words in the mage's epithets didn't change in English.
Smash them all,” “All – will be smashed” - why is such slang inserted into the epic about the Great Mage?
The Orc biography section: “TODO: About the Orc Hero” - what is this stump? Even if it's like that in the original, they could have shown at least some imagination and written: “the orc was just born and has no biography.”

Personally, I don't understand why they praise themselves on the title screen, breaking the atmosphere created by the map, if even the Author didn't think it was necessary to put their name there.

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5 years ago
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All your requests will be fulfilled. The best translation is unlikely to appear; I will try to contact Vadim. By the way, would you like to personally take on the translation?
5 years ago
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If a thank-you note for the translation has already been issued, then let Vadim correct his own "gems." We could have asked him to do it earlier – I would have translated it. (If he doesn't show up and fix it, I can rewrite the text.)
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5 years ago
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Unfortunately, I didn't know you were involved in (or willing to be involved in) translation; I've already written to Vadim and am waiting for his response. Most likely, he had the time, while I didn't even bother to check. So, time will tell; thanks for the feedback.
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5 years ago
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13ga

Capture the imps. Hire gremlins and place gremlins in the town.” - The verb forms don't match. The action in the script is a one-time event.
Capture the horned demons, nightmares…” - the same issue.
Capture the villain hero”, in another place “requires a villain-hero” - what kind of bizarre creature is that? It seems like Russian isn't their native language. The original says valiant hero - for those who understand, feel the difference.
A mighty mage, I will fight only…”. In all other places, the mage was a Great Mage; in English, the words in the mage's epithets didn't change.
Smash them all”, “All - smash” - Why is such slang inserted into the epic about the Great Mage?
In the orc biography section: “TODO: About the orc hero” - what is this stump? Even if it's in the original, they could have shown at least some imagination and written: “the orc was just born and has no biography.”


Sir 13Ga,
I translated the script specifically for the stream, quickly and with the help of Google Translate (it's more convenient, you can immediately insert the translated text without typing it manually) and only cared about understanding the text. The slang slightly diversified the monotonous "kill them all."
TODO was in the original map; the author was probably planning to continue working on the script and insert some picture or something else. I will be glad if you take on the ideal translation from a literary point of view, and I ask that you replace my name in the acknowledgments with yours.
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5 years ago
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Comrade Vadim, unfortunately, the translation wasn't needed for a stream; it was a personal request that I simply relayed through Remix, not knowing how else to contact you. I'm very sorry that due to a misunderstanding, you had to rush.
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5 years ago
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vadim_t
I translated the script specifically for the stream, in a hurry.
This is not serious at all. It's a lame excuse. The stream was in English, and the idea of translating it into Russian only came up after it ended.
In any case, you took on the task, you could have declined. The work was done poorly. The map has been on the website for a long time. There was time to write: "I translated it as best as I could, sorry" - but you didn't. You weren't bothered by the gratitude for the shoddy work. When you were pointed out the mistakes, instead of trying to fix them, you said that those who need it should redo it, as if fixing mistakes is not your job.
Are you a decent and conscientious person, or…?
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5 years ago
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Dear comrade **13ga**, of course, I won't defend Vadim for the poor translation. However, he did something for this. It is acceptable to criticize him for the poor work, but not to demand anything from him. I hope Vadim will find the strength to make a better translation; for now, it remains as it is. Let's end this to avoid a flame war.
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5 years ago
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I won't post anything more in this section to avoid cluttering the thread. It's up to Vadim to decide how to proceed. (I don't have high hopes for his abilities; otherwise, he would have already been working on fixing the issues.)

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