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I don't understand the logic behind having 6 templates at all. It doesn't matter which pattern is used. One player chooses 3 templates, and another chooses 2. This already creates a significant imbalance. The outcome depends heavily on luck. Why introduce this additional factor? I really don't like it.

The specific pattern used actually matters. In the case of five templates, the coin toss gives one of the players an overwhelming advantage.
With six templates and the draft order you described, it's not even clear who has the better position – the first or the second player. As you correctly pointed out, one player picks three, but the other picks last and decides what the game will be about.
The specified draft with 6 templates is clearly more balanced than a draft with 5, where the coin toss truly gives a distinct advantage to the player drafting second.

I also had three more points.
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It's precisely important which pattern the marking follows. In the case of five patterns, the coin toss gives one player an advantage right from the start.
In the case of six patterns and the marking I described, it’s even unclear who benefits more – the first or the second player. As you correctly pointed out, one marks three, but the other marks last and decides how the game ends.
The specified marking with 6 patterns is clearly more balanced than the marking with 5, where the coin toss indeed gives a clear advantage to the second marker.

I had three more points.
regarding the marking in your system – it’s nonsense; think carefully
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regarding the "cherk" in your system – it's heresy, think carefully.
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h3dm, 6lm, mt_jc, jk, m200 papich, nosta

please provide a specific example of how you encountered this situation; what are your preferences? who was chosen to "cherk" first? how did the "cherking" process unfold, and what specific "heresy" resulted?
and how is this worse than the current option with 5 templates? I'd like to see how "heresy" doesn't occur in the proposed version with 5 templates as well.

I think a concrete example will immediately clarify what is most important.
You can also send it in a private message if you don't want to reveal any mega-secrets about "cherking" to everyone.
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Please, no panic! My phone and Discord were down today. :D After discussing the template issue in private messages with many people, we decided to make some adjustments. Based on numerous requests, the Diamond template will be replaced with the Mini-Nostalgia template. In my opinion, the replacement is equivalent, although I personally like Mini-Nostalgia more, and it seems others do too. Also, people didn't appreciate the contribution of the great Papich and his m200 templates. Therefore, we are replacing it with MT_Jebus. There was an option to add MT_Firewalk, but Jebus is more familiar to people. I hope this template will become a connecting (compromise) one between the Jebus followers and the "Mirror" users (as it was originally planned). In total: Templates: h3dm1, Jebus King, 6lm10a, Mini-Nostalgia, MT_Jebus Anticipating the question: "Why aren't there 7 templates?" I'll answer that there simply aren't enough templates. We considered adding templates just for the sake of quantity to be inappropriate. I believe that all the templates from this pool will be used and many times over. P.S.: If qualifications are needed, they will either remain as they are on m200 or will be on Jebus King.
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Why not use a regular Jeb instead of Jebus King, or, more precisely, why not use a regular MT Jeb instead of that boring one?
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Aiwe
Why not use a regular Jeb instead of Jebus King?
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Well, sure, let's have a regular Jebus instead of MT Jebus, playing without the most popular template is lol

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Otherwise, it actually looks reasonable
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Anticipating the question: "Why aren't there 7 templates?" I'll answer that there simply aren't any templates. We didn't think it was appropriate to add templates just for the sake of quantity. I believe that all the templates from this pool will be used, and many times over.
Kostya, you know perfectly well that templates for a pool of 7 components exist (I would even say: they existed, exist, and will exist). But this is all just talk.
The only thing that personally raises a question for me as a viewer with this pool is whether the Jebus should be classic or King's Bounty style?
I haven't seen PapaShek stream any King's Bounty games in the last half year (or more) outside of the MSStudio tournament. But I see classic Jebus regularly. So maybe in this particular case, it's worth relying on the support of the majority of real (and not virtual) players? :smile14:

P.S. And if you choose from 1 template, then the entire template will be used many times...
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I would also choose the classic Jebus Cross over King, and I think many would agree with that.. Maybe take another look at the template list? Because as it is, there are already 2 Mirrors, 6lm, and Mini-Nosta in the pool, I'd like to add a bit of gambling fever;)
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Thank you, now we have a worthy pool of maps for the CIS championship!
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This is the final set of templates; no further revisions or changes will be made.
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Dirty_Player
Please, no panic! My phone and Discord were disconnected today. :D After discussing the template issue in private messages with many people, we decided to make some adjustments.

Due to numerous requests, the Diamond template will be replaced with the Mini-Nostalgia template. In my opinion, the replacement is equivalent, although I personally like Mini-Nostalgia more, and apparently, others do too.

And people didn't appreciate the contribution of the great Papich and his m200 templates. Therefore, we will replace it with MT_Jebus. There was an option to add MT_Firewalk, but Jebus is more familiar to people. I hope this template will become a connecting (compromise) one between the Jebus followers and the Mirror users (as it was originally planned).

In total:
Templates: h3dm1, Jebus King, 6lm10a, Mini-Nostalgia, MT_Jebus

Anticipating the question: "Why aren't there 7 templates?" I'll answer that there simply aren't any more templates. We considered adding templates just for the sake of quantity to be inappropriate. I believe that all the templates from this pool will be used and many times over.

P.S.: If qualifications are needed, they will either remain as they are on m200 or will be on Jebus King.

Best option by far!
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Best option by far!

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I am now absolutely satisfied. I used to dislike the mini-nostu for some time (the AI constantly killed me). But then I realized that I just didn't know how to play it. It's better (and more skilled) than Diamond.

I don't understand why there are complaints about the lack of a regular Jebus. Jebus-King was originally conceived as the best version of it. In the latest versions, that's what happened. At first, I protested some of the changes, but now the King is quite good, an excellent template for a tech build.
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cool pool
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Templates: h3dm1, Jebus King, 6lm10a, Mini-Nostalgia, MT_Jebus

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It's great that Dirty reacted quickly; this pool is much better, although I don't understand JK's choice of one of the most boring templates, and CIS is not a Free-for-All tournament. Overall, I don't understand; could you provide a couple of comments?

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