Online Lobby — Horn of the Abyss / HOTA

=Lizard=

6 years ago

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baratorch

It's very interesting to read this, especially after you called them idiots and told them to go to hell.

I really don't understand why you had to throw such a tantrum instead of calmly disputing the decision and presenting your arguments.

I only got emotional later. The fact is that I wasn't listened to. Yes, I admit that I can be unbearable and inconsistent at times. But in this particular case, it was simply an unfortunate combination of circumstances that worked against me, and that really annoyed me. In general, I don't care anymore. And I know for sure that no one is offended by me, because everyone else doesn't care either. The topic is closed, I'm ready to be a gray man forever, because there are so few of us.

Russel_lDHl

6 years ago

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I can suggest a rather simple method for detecting open-map cheating, as well as a couple of telltale signs that a player might be doing it. I say this because I was surprised to learn how one can play with an open map, and I immediately wrote to Baratortch and Dirty about it. Unfortunately, this method only works with software assistance; if the opponent isn't streaming their game, it's not possible.
I don't want to reveal any specifics here, but I can share my limited experience and thoughts on this issue to help eliminate and detect unsportsmanlike behavior.
Another, simpler option is to simply avoid playing against those who are clearly suspected of cheating, but then this ambiguity and lack of proof can be particularly irritating, especially for those who are already prone to getting upset.

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kvax2

6 years ago

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=Lizard=

I later switched to emotional arguments. The fact is that I wasn't heard. Yes, I admit that sometimes I'm unbearable and inconsistent. But specifically here, it was simply a devastating combination of circumstances that were not in my favor, and that really annoyed me. In general, now I don't care anymore. And I know for sure that no one is offended by me, because everyone doesn't care either. The topic is closed, I'm ready to be gray forever, because there are only a few like that.

What is this disease?

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Призрак Коммунизма

6 years ago

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=Lizard=

After that, I just reacted emotionally.

A brief timeline of events. An example of how it all started and how it ended.

P.S. It's also quite interesting to see the statement above regarding the revelations about "what they were punished for." The fact that it was written earlier that it was for 3 consecutive leaves, and a unique member of the community read it quickly and therefore, apparently, didn't notice.

P.P.S. It's incredibly interesting what compromising evidence Lizard has that we don't.

=Lizard=

6 years ago

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1. This is a brief timeline of events that occurred significantly after the circumstances that led to my departure. 2. The issue regarding the "leaks" has been explained in detail. 3. Ban this Ghost; look at the inappropriate words he's quoting! This is a decent community! And judging by the level of reasoning and analytical skills of some, it feels like we're dealing with children here!!!

Marcus Aurelius

6 years ago

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Why doesn't the game automatically register a loss when a player exits? It would eliminate all those gray nicknames and the resulting disputes.

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=Lizard=

6 years ago

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Marcus Aurelius

Why doesn't the game automatically register a loss when a player leaves? It would eliminate all these gray nicknames and the resulting disputes.

Because then it wouldn't be possible to blame "pseudo-leavers," as they did with me. A player stays in the game and doesn't even ask if it's okay for them to be AFK for 30 minutes. In fact, it's the opposite! They come back later, see that their opponent left without waiting, take a screenshot, and send it to HotA Universe. Perfect.

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MerlinTheMagician

6 years ago

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Marcus Aurelius

Why is a defeat still not automatically recorded when leaving the game? All these gray nicknames and investigations wouldn't be necessary.

And if the HotA lobby crashes, should both players get a defeat? Or if the internet goes down? :smile54:

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Pridu

6 years ago

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=Lizard=

Can he AFK for 30 minutes or not? Actually, the opposite! He simply came later, saw that the opponent had left, not waiting for you, took a screenshot, and sent it to HotA Universe. Perfect.

Is there no message from the opponent that he left? If he doesn't take his turn, we immediately write to him. No response in 5 minutes? We calmly leave the match. (if you're afraid of being reported, take a screenshot yourself).

Leaving for even 5 minutes and not writing about it is considered leaving. A relic of the Soviet era. Remember, they used to hang signs on stalls saying "gone for 10 minutes." You could wait for half an hour and get a barrage of insults in response to your complaint about how long they were gone during their working hours.

Browser

6 years ago

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Kostya, you haven't changed – and that's a good thing – you can't change a person after they don't want to be changed. Drama is good – it refreshes things – essentially, I've also become a bit dull – although deep down, I don't know why – some weirdo probably wrote something – it doesn't bother me, and it shouldn't bother you either – because what? Because when everyone meets up again and has a drink, it will be another story when you yourself say, "NO, BUT CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?" – it's all nonsense – ratings, the color of your nickname, and so on – the main thing is that there's a good argument )))))) You know what I mean. All the best.

=Lizard=

6 years ago

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I appreciate people who understand. Stёpa +

Marcus Aurelius

6 years ago

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Browser

it's all nonsense - rating, nickname color and the rest - the main thing is the trash-talkers )))))))) you get it ) Peace

Golden words, we don't have enough trash-talkers on HeroesWorld :)

Призрак Коммунизма

6 years ago

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A blatant lie from Lizard, as the conversation initially took place in the general chat, and then in a private message. + We are still waiting for the secret showdown with Alfein.

It's very interesting to watch someone trying to prove their point without any evidence. And the most interesting thing is that there will be just as many offended and "wrongfully" punished people. As everyone knows, only innocent people are in prison.

Pridu

Is there a message from the opponent that he has left? If he doesn't take his turn, we immediately write to him. If there is no response within 5 minutes, we calmly leave the match. (if you are afraid of being reported, take a screenshot yourself).

According to the rules, if a person has waited at least 15 minutes for any response from the opponent, such a report will not be considered. Please do not mislead people about the methods of the administration.

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Pridu

6 years ago

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The Ghost of Communism

According to the rules, if a player doesn't wait at least 15 minutes for any response from their opponent, such a report will not be considered. Please do not mislead people about the administration's working methods.

I'm not suggesting anyone be reported; I'm just saying that if my opponent doesn't respond, I don't wait 15 minutes. I just leave the game, and that's it; I don't file a report against them. If they return, they can write, and we can finish the game; if they don't return, so be it. So, there's no reason to accuse me of misleading anyone.

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MerlinTheMagician

6 years ago

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The Ghost of Communism

According to the rules, if a person doesn't wait at least 15 minutes for any response from their opponent, such a report will not be considered. Please do not mislead people about the administration's working methods.

I am an elderly person and not aware of this. Please provide a specific link to the official rule about "15 minutes."