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socola
Maybe because m200 is an even more random format than Jebus Cross?)
what does that have to do with anything? any random map in Heroes is random, and with equal play, the draw will win, that's one
secondly, there are different templates, there is 9day wonder which is a kind of JK for M200, there are mirror maps, etc.
In any case, on any map, the one who is more skilled and wants to win more will win, regardless of the map size
so it's only about the time spent on the game and the mental effort put into the game (number of actions per turn, etc.)
and that's where the discrepancy I pointed out in the previous post comes in

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effort on m200 is 2-3 times more than on even a conditional Jebus Cross, wow
on the contrary, on a conditional Jebus Cross there is 2-3 times more effort, but they give 5-10 times more for it
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what does that have to do with it? any random map in Heroes is random, and with equal play, the layout will win, that's one thing
secondly, there are different templates, there is "9day wonder" which is a kind of JK for M200, there are mirror maps, etc.
In any case, on any map, the one who is more skilled and wants to win more will win, regardless of the map size
so it's only a matter of time spent on the game and mental effort put into the game (number of actions per turn, etc.)
and that's where the discrepancy I pointed out in the previous post lies
It's about the degree of randomness's influence on the result. For example, on M200 or Jebus (including JK), the probability of a weak player beating a skilled one in a single game is much higher than, say, on XL+U or h3dm1/2. Therefore, it's quite logical that such templates should award fewer points.
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Is it possible to win against a more skilled opponent if your stats are only 3% higher? And should this result in 10 times fewer victory points? :mad:
Based on my experience, I usually win against weaker opponents and lose against more skilled ones, regardless of the stats. If that's not the case, it's usually due to mistakes, not the stats.
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I'm endlessly curious about where the admins in the HotA lobby come from. Does Baratorch select them himself? Time and time again: the level of decision-making is that of an average IDIOT. I said several months ago that Brabus is a damn cheater, and they should ban him everywhere they can. No, they give this piece of trash tech support and a gray nickname. P.S. If anyone has personal contacts with the "person" with the nickname parovozovoz, I would be grateful if you shared them. The "dialogues" reminded me a lot of similar ones with Vlk in the WT chat. At the same time, in this case, the "person" has some local power. And the scariest thing is that this Parovozovoz, just like Brabus, sincerely believes in his own rightness and thinks that Lizard is talking nonsense. And it is impossible to prove anything to such "individuals" in a diplomatic way, because for this level of thinking, there is only black and white.
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I've seen screenshots of the chat, and the gray color indicates that the player was correctly identified. This isn't the only time you've left a game recently. And the insults directed at the administration only worsen the situation; you are taking on the role of the cheater here. Suspecting someone of cheating doesn't give you the right to leave the game. You should finish the game, surrender, request a password, and report the player. If you can't prove it, just add them to your blacklist and don't play with them.
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I've seen screenshots of the chat, and the gray color is displayed correctly. This isn't the only time you've left a game recently. And insulting the administration only makes the situation worse; you're taking on the role of Warlock here.

Suspecting someone of cheating doesn't give you the right to leave. You need to finish the game/surrender, request a password, and report them. If you can't prove it, just put them on your blacklist and don't play with them.

Listen, are you serious? You're saying I'm taking on the role of Warlock? That's just ridiculous. Then you can stew in your own mess. If you're really on Parovozov's (and, consequently, Brabus') side in this situation, then you're just as stupid. Goodbye.
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Yes, seriously. You are the one writing posts with insults, not someone else. If you can't behave appropriately in the online lobby, you will face penalties. Everything follows a standard procedure here; the identities of the players and admins are irrelevant, and no one is on anyone's side. I am simply informing you that there was no admin abuse here, and the standard procedure was not violated. Several reports of leaving matches with screenshot evidence -> gray nickname.
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I am involved in technical administration (and development). I don't have time for anything else. Therefore, player support is handled by a team of admins from the Hota team. I myself am often not happy with how the administration is carried out. However, it is important to understand that the administration is done by people on a voluntary basis. The workload is very large, and there are not enough admins. Regardless of this, resolving disputes and making decisions is not an easy task in itself, and anyone can make mistakes or misunderstand something. From my side, I see only one way to improve the situation. This is the development and introduction of technical tools that reduce the role of the human administrator in this matter. The plans for this winter include: launching a system for recording game history with starting data, the result, and the status of whether the game was finished or not. With a request for victory in an unfinished game and the possibility of disputing it from the other side. At the same time, it is very important to implement a limited timer for battles against other players. Furthermore, I would like to separate reputation from friends/ignore lists. Make it possible to influence the reputation of only your opponent, either positively or negatively, at the end of each game. If all of this is done, it will significantly solve the problems with players leaving games. When it will be possible to see the number of finished/unfinished games and a more realistic game reputation, the need for a gray marker for players who leave games will disappear. But a black marker for cheaters in the lobby will remain for a long time (possibly forever) until someone creates an effective anti-cheat system - but that's a lot of work. *** =Lizard=, saying that someone is a cheater is not enough; you need proof (save files). Send them to my email. And if they are convincing, then the person will receive a black marker, and you will be cleared of any wrongdoing.
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1. If there were 100% proof of cheating in this specific situation, it would have been provided long ago. 2. If the words of several experienced players, who truly understand the game and have not colluded with each other, but are expressing their opinions independently, based on a genuine individual analysis of various situations, are not considered evidence in any way, then such a system is worthless in principle. 3. If logical conclusions based on the analysis of circumstances are offensive to someone, then this is a problem for the person who was "offended," and not for the person who, supposedly (if one thinks and makes decisions strictly according to a template), is being rude. 4. I deeply and sincerely respect the work done by both Hota-Krew and Baratortcha in particular, which I have expressed publicly more than once. But when there is blatant pretentious stupidity, I simply cannot remain silent. 5. I demand that all my games with Brabus be annulled, that my white nickname be restored, and that Parovozov offer public apologies with a sincere acknowledgment that he was wrong in this specific situation and acted in a banal, template-driven manner.
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When reading messages from Lizard, always remember the signature that FiretoSky has.
"There are only a few players like me in the entire history of Heroes, so I absolutely don't care about all your "rules". (=Lizard=)

p.s. I didn't have a very smooth experience with Brabuss either; he likes to set long timers and rush in with red units while the timers are still running. In the first game, that's what happened, and in the second, I arrived while he had nothing and he immediately said he "needed to leave," followed by excuses that he didn't have time, even though he was in the lobby, etc. In the end, I gave up on him, but I could have reported him and he would have received a gray mark.
And in your case, you're the one not finishing the game. Knowing for months that he's a cheater, you still play with him? Did you want to prove something to yourself? Then finish the game and prove it; the admins are right about you.
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Finish the game, take a pass, and investigate. I've caught a lot of cheaters, but my mistake was writing to them during the game. In most cases, they would just leave, and without a pass, there was no way to prove anything to the "parovoz" (likely referring to a powerful player or admin) or other admins. You need to grit your teeth, finish the game without making accusations, take a pass, and then deal with the situation using the saved game files.
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Pridu
..."Knowing" for many months that he's a cheater, you still decide to play with him?...

Here we go again. Without knowing the specifics of the situation, people jump to conclusions. This "game" with Brabus was definitely more than a month ago, and before it, I told him in a message, "Okay, I'll give you a chance, let's see." But the guy still goes in blindly, and along the way, he collects easy wins, and then comes to you. When he attacked me, I told him off and blocked him permanently.

But then time passes, and the incredibly busy administration of the hota-lobby gets to Brabus's letter and awards him the victory, while Lizard gets a gray nickname. Because Lizard – yes, he's that arrogant jerk for whom the rules don't apply, so let's teach him a lesson too.

p.s. Ivan's signature is taken very out of context, but in itself, it has a very humorous character, and that's why I like it myself. As for those for whom there is something more than humor in this case, I'm sorry, read smart books instead of watching stupid videos on YouTube.
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=Lizard=
Here we go again. Without knowing the specific circumstances of the situation, people jump to conclusions. This "game" with Brabuss was already more than a month ago, and before it, I told him in our correspondence, "Okay, I'll give you a chance, let's see."
So, what were the circumstances?
He gave him a chance and left :-) The action of an intelligent person who reads intelligent books.

You don't get a penalty for one leave, so it's a repeat offense. Or do you only leave games against Brabuss?
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Not just Brabus, but also 2 lives against other players.