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Offline ewgeniy
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I suggest moving the flame war, which is currently in the "GI" thread, here. I'll express my opinion right away: the "GI" thread should exist, but the only question is who will be the moderator and the ideological inspirer of this thread.
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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Windows Vienna? Please express your opinion in a less harsh manner. Quote:
Windows Vienna;114440
This is the right point of view. GI is just showing off, but since the founder of this "wonder" has left the forum, the topic can be deleted, unless someone takes over his duties.
I would be glad to hear explanations; I don't see the logic...

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Windows Vienna;114577
You are lost sheep, and there is no one to lead you, so I am trying to help you in some way.
Don't, not all 40 users of the portal who signed the manifesto like such comparisons.
Vanechka;114449

Today is a holiday for the Pioneers! Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria has arrived!:smile40:
... as well as the best detective without a diploma, named after Pavlik Morozov, of the Order of Labor of the Red Banner...
... with a corresponding entry in his work record book!!!

An excellent way to combat enmity (first and foremost:D) on the forum, flaming, and so on.
But what if these were two brothers or friends, with one ICQ account, with one computer? Why BAN them??? Why does this highly decorated peacemaker call for the public discrimination of these two (let's say two, because the evidence is flimsy) users? Is this what the flourishing of freedom of speech on the forum looks like?

And even if it was one person, OJERO-JOIS, who played with you? Maybe he is 6 years old? If you have doubts, quietly write to the organizer, resolve the issue, and get your cow back (if he played with it)!!! What is the point of all this public posturing? And most importantly - who are they addressed to? That's right, by definition, public statements are addressed to the public! Not to OJERO-JOIS!!! This is mob bullying. This is communism in its worst form.

I'm afraid that by setting good goals for himself, GI risks achieving the exact opposite result.
Choose your words carefully, RESPECTED!
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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I would even say it's harsher.... No one likes them:mad:

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And with such comparisons, Windows Vienna shows that it is superior to others. One might think it's a shepherd, and all the others are sheep, and only it knows the true path (the truth)....

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Even if someone is wrong about something (which is very possible), this is not a reason to call them a sheep. Since the truth is born in a dispute (in this case, in a discussion), only after many people have expressed their opinions can all the opinions be combined and some constructive proposals be made about this.

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And you can simply hold a vote on the topic of "Who would you like to see as the Guild Leader." Moreover, candidates for the vote will be nominated voluntarily. And you can also give explanations why you voted for one participant or another, but this is only if you wish.

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And there can be at least 2 candidates so that there is a choice.

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Well, even if only 1 person is nominated, you can vote for or against their candidacy.

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And the moderator and the ideological inspirer can be the same person. Or is this prohibited by the Portal Rules?
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I'm not calling anyone sheep; it's just a metaphor! Besides, you're more like goats than sheep (this is also a metaphor). But you're reasoning correctly (about the elections). I don't like the fact that you're running for leader; it's not the Guild itself that I dislike, but some of its methods and principles. I did write about the uselessness of the Guild, but if people are so attached to it, maybe I'm wrong. If I'm elected, I'll change a few things in the Guild: 1. It's necessary to exclude from the Guild those who don't follow the charter (there wasn't a point about this in the charter, and that's a mistake). 2. The "wall of shame" should include not only people who deserve a ban but also people who have committed less serious offenses (spammers, rude people, etc.). 3. A topic should be created for particularly egregious offenders with a poll: "Ban or not ban?" where everyone can express their opinion. 4. No more agitation like "ignore him" or "let's lower his reputation." All offenders are posted on the wall of shame, and everyone "THEMSELVES" decides how to act.
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Vanechka;114449


...with a corresponding entry made in their employment record!!!

An excellent way to combat hostility (primarily:D) on the forum, flaming, and so on.
But what if these were, for example, two brothers or friends, sharing the same ICQ account, using the same computer? Why BAN them??? Why is this highly decorated peacemaker publicly calling for discrimination against these two (let's say two, because the evidence is flimsy) users? Is this what the flourishing of free speech on the forum looks like?

And even if it was just one person, OJERO-JOIS, playing with you? Maybe he's only 6 years old? If you have doubts, quietly write to the organizer, resolve the issue, and get your cow back (if he was playing with it). What's the point of all this public posturing? And most importantly - who is it addressed to? That's right, by definition, public statements are addressed to the public! Not to OJERO-JOIS!!! This is mob bullying. This is communism, in its worst form.
I'll answer: he did play, and it's one person, and he's also russkiy512, and I think the list isn't complete enough.
A Heroes 3 tournament was held, and this person (the organizer) cheated.
And I see the point in banning a 6-year-old teenager who knows how to create tables and tournaments... it's a shame, the guy is just a prodigy...
And who should you turn to if not the public? Should you ask your grandmother and grandfather for advice?
Public posturing is exactly 90% of your post.
Windows Vienna;114618
I'm not calling anyone sheep, it's just a metaphor!!! Besides, you're more like goats than sheep (this is also a metaphor).
Well, I asked:smile51: :smile51: :smile51:
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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Quote: Message from Windows Vienna You are lost sheep with no one to lead you, so I'm trying to help you in any way I can. WOW!!! You're simply a genius!!! I haven't heard such an intelligent statement in a long time!!! We are lost sheep, and you are the smartest and most correct one!!! Simply great! Let me explain what you just said: lost sheep are people without willpower, who are used by a stronger leader in this regard. So, I don't like that you called me and the other forum members spineless, but I'll speak for myself. Do you know me? What are you doing? If you knew me personally, then it would be understandable, but otherwise, you have no basis to assert anything like that. So, let's not try to help me; I'll decide what's best for me, and just try to help yourself, okay? Added after 40 seconds.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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2 Ewgeniy
He is at least 13 years old, as you can only register for ICQ from the age of 13 (this is stated in the ICQ license agreement, and if the ICQ server somehow finds out that the user is younger, the account will be deleted). And at 13 (at least), it's time to start understanding the consequences of one's actions. Moreover, criminal responsibility for particularly serious crimes begins at the age of 14, which means that from this age, society recognizes a person as responsible (at least partially until reaching the age of majority) for their actions. And I believe the direct evidence (it's in Alexei-Punk's post, if you're interested, I can give you a link) of Joyce's guilt is quite convincing.
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eXeCuToR;114629
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Message from Windows Vienna
You are all lost sheep with no one to lead you, so I'm trying to help you in any way I can.

WOW!!! You're just amazing!!! I haven't heard such an idiotic statement in a long time!!! We are lost sheep, and you are the smartest and most right one!!! Just great!
Let me explain what you just said: lost sheep are people without willpower, who are used by a stronger leader for their own purposes. So, to put it mildly, I don't like that you called me and the other forum members spineless, but I'll speak for myself. Do you know me?! Who do you think you are to say that?
If you knew me personally, then it would be understandable, but as it is, you have no basis to claim anything like that.
So, let's not have you try to help me; I'll decide for myself what's best, and you just try to help yourself, okay?

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And now we're sheep too? Well, buddy, you've really gone too far... You can say that to your mirror, but definitely not to me and not to people I respect. I would meet you and give you a piece of my mind.

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Evgeny, I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself...
and what does YOU have to do with the Guild? Judging by this post, you don't care about the Guild's rules
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So, I fully support you on this issue, Ewgeniy.
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Windows Vienna;114618
I nominate myself for the position of leader because I don't like the Guild itself, but rather some of its methods and principles.
I did write about the uselessness of the Guild, but since people are so attached to it, maybe I was wrong.
If I am elected, I will change some things in the Guild:
Oh no!!! Seriously, dude??? You're against the Guild's removal, but you're also running for leader... Have you even made up your mind? I am DEFINITELY AGAINST you because you are rude, disrespectful, and put your own position above everyone else.
Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

Зло летает на крыльях, добро ползает как черепаха.
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You yourself just violated the rules by calling everyone sheep and goats. Even if it was a metaphor, it was not a respectful metaphor towards others, which means it violates the rules.

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I agree with you, Boots!!!! I definitely won't vote for him!
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Windows Vienna;114639
What does YOU have to do with GI? Judging by this post, you don't care about the GI rules.

:D :D :D First of all, I asked to join, and secondly, why should I show you respect if you don't show it to anyone? Maybe you haven't noticed, but I seem to be polite to everyone else.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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eXeCuToR;114646
:D :D :D First, I asked to be added, and second, why should I show you respect if you don't show it to anyone? Maybe you haven't noticed, but I seem to be polite to everyone else.
A member of the Guild should respect all forum participants, even those who are not members of the Guild.
Carefully read the Guild rules and then JOIN. show-off.
And I haven't signed up for the Guild yet, so...

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BotINKi;114643
Oh!!! NO!!!!! Dude, are you serious??? You are in favor of deleting the Guild, but at the same time, you are putting yourself forward as a leader... Have you decided on your decision?? I am DEFINITELY AGAINST you, because you are rude, impudent, and put your position above everyone else.
I was in favor of deleting the Guild because it had no leader, but if they decided to look for one, then I am ready to lead the Guild, and then the Guild will be a worthwhile idea.

P.S.: gentlemen, you, as members of the Guild, show me kindness and respect
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In short, I have a suggestion! Winwos Vienna, please apologize for the inappropriate metaphor and refrain from going off-topic or engaging in irrelevant discussions in this thread. I think this is the most reasonable suggestion.
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