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It’s easy to sit here at home, not knowing or seeing anything, in a familiar environment, and talk about everything. But it’s not like you have military vehicles still warm and smoking driving around your city, or that your cities are destroyed, homes and cars have been seized, and shops are closed – what the hell do you need Adidas or Nike for, guys? Everything is at the market, at the market! The quality of food has become so bad that I don’t even want to go into it. And no one even pays attention to all this anymore, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. It’s a gray area, with lawlessness, and over these years, I’ve realized that criminal lawlessness is nothing compared to military lawlessness. Soldiers are the scariest people, who used to seem like just random guys in your life, and they sit somewhere in a military recruitment office, and no one knows them. But no! And these aren’t even the good guys that they show in war movies or during parades. These are guys who can do ANYTHING!!!, and, as they say, to the extent of their depravity, and the people in power here are quite something. They do drugs, sniff, drink, chase girls, and become millionaires under the cover of rain (although there are also some who end up becoming ministers). The normal people who could leave, left, and those who couldn’t stay (old parents or something else, everyone has a different life). And ordinary workers just survive on 10,000 rubles or join the ranks to fight for the “Russian world” (there, at least, you can earn 20,000 rubles!!!) or they just hustle, either in Russia or in Ukraine – they trade or transport goods, and that’s all the joy they have from 2014 to 2019. And it’s also amusing how the curfew works, it’s a real joke. Before, you could come home at 4 or 5 in the morning after driving around Donetsk and Makeevka, shooting up all the clubs, bars, and billiard halls, but now you have to be home by 10. The valiant police with automatic weapons guard our cities, and if they catch even their own low-level militiamen or the children of important or unimportant people, they’ll take them to a detention center and keep them there until morning, at best. It’s good for older people and wives whose husbands like to go out – in this regard, they are at home, and everyone is at home, there is no envy of young people and no worry about where their husband, son, or daughter is drinking. They are home by 9:30! Although, a pig will always find mud, and maybe I’ll be lucky and get home while the cops are catching other people! And life goes on, people get older, and in these conditions, it happens twice as fast. And you’re all talking about ideas, about ideas..., about the “Russian world,” thank you, friends, for understanding. Donbass sounds grand, but in reality, they’ve captured less than half of our two regions. When someone says that there are militiamen in eastern Ukraine, that’s complete nonsense. P.S. When you haven’t seen something with your own eyes, it’s better not to argue about it!
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7 years ago
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WHY DID YOU RAISE THE ZOMBIES?!
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Wicc

The main argument is the language law, passed the day after Yanukovych was overthrown.

I don't see any other reasonable explanation for the appearance of this law at that time. Well, there is another possible explanation: "idiots," but you could explain too much that way, so let's not.

I didn't understand this paragraph at all. What "brothers"? What "destabilization"? :)

Have you read this law? Maybe we're talking about different laws? For example, I know that they simply repealed the law that the "vegetable" passed. What do you have? Let's see links, texts.

In any case, why do you care about our laws? On what basis are you bothered by the laws of another country? What kind of hygiene issues are you having?

What "destabilization"? Aren't you living in the Russian information space? Haven't you heard about the war with the Bandera supporters? :D :D :D
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Piterius
If you want to talk in the language of statistics
year new / used / total
2013 - 213 thousand units
2014 - 97
2015 - 46
2016 - 65 / 25 / 90
2017 - 82 / 73 / 155
2018 - 65 / 120 / 185
- okay, I didn't take "blokhers" into account. But firstly, in Russia, the number is still twice as high. And used cars are a different price range, which indicates low purchasing power of the population.
Moreover, your government, by solving the problem in this way for the coming years, has actually prepared a time bomb: the used cars from Europe now are not the same as 20 years ago - the new aluminum engines are "disposable." Soon, your secondary car market will collapse.
Another aspect: in Russia, the automotive industry is developing at a rapid pace. Simple assembly is a thing of the past; we are almost completing a full cycle and even starting to install our own automatic transmissions on foreign cars.
And you killed the Ukrainian automotive industry.
upd. Maybe I'm wrong, and "blokhers" don't belong to the used car market - they bought them in Europe, right?
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Piterius
Have you read that law? Maybe we're talking about different laws? For example, I know that they simply repealed the law passed by that… well, let’s just say “vegetable.” What do you have? Let’s see the links, the text.
The text of the law is irrelevant. What matters is that it was the cause of the unrest in Crimea and the Donbas, which ultimately led to what it led to.

It wouldn't have been difficult to predict such a reaction and wait a couple of months before "repealing" it. But since they didn't do that, there must have been a reason...
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And Heroin hit the nail on the head. The cult of the supremacy of strength over reason can, in a first approximation, be defined as the source of all the ******* that is happening. And accordingly, the adherents of this cult can be defined as adherents of evil on Earth. (To varying degrees, each of us has probably contributed to this mess personally during our lives, but there is no need to blame ourselves too much - when almost everything around is infected, the main issue here is the degree of infection and the vector of personal movement, rather than a single fact or mistakes).
And the problem is not only with the military. Those who direct the military are much more dangerous. Some psychologists have even come close to understanding what we are talking about and have given a name to the group of beings (they can no longer be called people) who are implementing this cult - pathocrats.
But until there is clarity on this issue, and on what to do to cure humanity (and the disease has now captured almost all government structures around the globe), it seems that we are still far from a solution.

p.s. I'm reading it quickly and not everything, if it starts to get too intense, send me a private message.
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Wicc
The text of the law is irrelevant.

Well, the coffin lid is closed. You don't need to continue.

Although, does that mean Donbass and Crimea are also "vegetables"? Or did some "brotherly" nations take advantage of this fact to manipulate people? Just like with the "Banderovites on trains."
You're quite the manipulator and distorter with a hygienic mindset, but a leaky roof.
Here, an eyewitness is writing to you from above, and you still insist on a civil war.
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Piterius
Well, the coffin lid is closed.
Okay, it's closed, so be it. I'm going to lie down now, because people are already getting upset.
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We don't need your laws; what matters is the overall situation and what hotheads can focus on. Many have either not seen or forgotten our nineties.
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Wicc
Well, it's closed, so it's closed :). I'll go lie down some more, otherwise people are already getting annoyed :).

Come on, Wicc, stop lying around, come visit us, or better yet, don't just visit, come for a PvP match!
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Wicc
a language law passed the day after Yanukovych was overthrown
That's exactly it – the goal is to create conflict. The "Euro-integrators" understood that a high percentage of people loyal to Russia would not allow them freedom of action, so they decided to immediately put all the dots on the i's. Now Russia is the "aggressor," and any deviation from the party line is suppressed by activist-patriots.
They also readily gave up Crimea, as it had a pro-Russian electorate.
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Wicc
Well, it's closed, so it's closed :). I'll go lie down some more, otherwise people are already getting annoyed :).
Yura, keep going.
Petya is so warmed up by your posts that it's already +10 in Odessa. :D
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oxygen_hl
Yura, keep going.
Petya is getting so warm from your posts that it's already +10 in Odessa. :D
Could you move Petya closer to Moscow?
It's a bit chilly here. :D
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bubuch
We don't need your rules; what matters is the overall situation and what hotheads can focus on. Many have either not seen or forgotten our 1990s.

And cranes lay eggs, and some species of turtles are extinct. We are very interested in all the things that "you don't need"; keep us informed:D

I'm going to go work now:D
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Oh, guys... you're walking on thin ice... I have a feeling it's going to crack soon. But for now, everything seems to be within reasonable limits, so I won't say anything. :smile15:
Wicc
I came here to prepare questions for a quiz, and then I saw this... :)
Funny. As soon as a political discussion started, Yura suddenly appeared out of nowhere :D. It's like he's constantly monitoring the forum in incognito mode.

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