Posts from Application for the CIS region.

Actually, Sergey, you're not entirely right. I organized the CIS tournaments and listened to the opinions of respected players, rather than doing everything 100% according to my own wishes. At CIS-14 in Minsk, the default setting was VT under SoD. Although I wanted a full VT. If you're so categorical, some good players might simply not come, which would lower the level of the tournament. We (as I always thought) always strived to make the CIS the coolest and most important tournament of the year, not just a gathering of people with shared interests. It's your decision, but I, despite being all for "hota only," will vote for a poll (or for the compromise option I suggested earlier).

Kostya, I didn't want to do anything, I just wanted to come and hang out with everyone, but Kirill (Merlin) probably won't be able to come, and Kostya (Dirty Player) is also very unlikely to make it. There's no one else, so I have to do it. But if I have to do it and also try to please everyone, especially when it involves a version that I'm not personally interested in, then I'm out. No offense, I'm not trying to be the leader; I don't need to be the most important. I took on this task because there's no one else.

I think we should create a poll, but not about the templates, but about who is coming and what they want to play (those who are coming should indicate whether they want Hota, SoD, or Hota + SoD, or just a casual game...). Then we can start the debate.
P.S. Although, if no one else wants to take on the organization besides Seryoga, then statements like "I won't come if it's not SoD" will just be a farce from people who want something but aren't willing to put in the effort.

If I understand correctly, organizing a tournament on SOD differs fundamentally from organizing one on HOT? Or not? On the other hand, if, for example, a vote determines that SOD will be the default, and Sergey refuses to participate in organizing the tournament, will there be no tournament at all? Let's get something going and decide, I want to know where to plan my vacation.

Well, in such a context, the key question must certainly be about priorities.
If the CIS tournament is held for the people - then it should focus specifically on the people. If the priority of holding the CIS tournament is for one's own sake (to make things "more comfortable" for oneself in certain aspects) - then indeed, there is no need to listen to anyone or ask anyone about anything. :smile31:
But in this case, there is a risk of not attracting enough players and spectators.
It should not be forgotten that during negotiations with the hotel - the preliminary price quoted was essentially based on conditions of full occupancy of the room stock with an approximate expected number of 35-40 people.
And in this regard, "Some kind of quorum will be there in any case" is an extremely dangerous phrasing. Because if only 20-25 people come, the final price could increase by one and a half to two times (I perfectly understand that Frisha and a few other people can handle it - but what about the rest?..).
And if, hypothetically, there are 10 players - then that is not a CIS quorum. A CIS quorum today is 20 players.
On the other hand, there is enough time ahead to campaign for an influx of "fresh blood" into the CIS from the HotA audience (only someone needs to handle this purposefully).
I would actually recommend conducting a survey on who generally intends to go (because so far we see about 7-8 people in this thread), look at the probabilities of arrival for those who specifically intend to play, - and then based on that create a pool of templates for different versions (Lizard's suggestion - just make three SoD and three HotA plus SoD-anarchy instead of random). Most current top-level players successfully play both versions, and they will somehow agree on HotA. But I see no point in acting rashly and immediately cutting off "true SoDers" and those who haven't yet trained their HotA to a tournament level (or simply want to play SoD).
On the contrary, a balanced solution in the form of having both SoD and HotA at the template level - will allow for expanding the CIS audience and not splitting the diaspora into two confrontational camps.:smile14:

Although it's more playable, and there don't seem to be many people left who fundamentally refuse to play it, among those who regularly attend the CIS event.

The current CIS champion, who regularly participates in tournaments, expressed a clear opinion: "against Hota by default." Does he play Hota?
We need to look at the overall game statistics: at the recent CIS-18, as usual, no one prevented players from agreeing on any version or map - how many tournament games were played on Hota?

So, talks about statistics are just "talk for the poor".

In other words, watching someone play SOD poorly is fine, but if someone plays HotA, they should only do it at a top level! What a funny approach.