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I don't quite understand what you're asking, and what exactly is unclear to you in the rules text. Let's try another question with a specific example.

Is a technical draw, if the game hasn't started, considered 0-0 or 1-1? Is it possible to change the technical result if the game does take place? Or are the final scores for all players determined after the round is completed?

1:1. After a round is completed, the results may not necessarily be displayed. After the deadline for the first round, nothing will be automatically displayed. I will assess the situation and decide accordingly. However, information will still be recorded for future reference. There will be enough time for this during the New Year holidays. Closer to the middle and end of the group stage, communication with those who are late will become more strict. This will be announced separately.

So, if one player doesn't want to play against another, and the other player also isn't looking for a match, and no one requests a One-on-One Duel (ODD), will the result be considered a technical draw? In this case, no report is written, and each player receives 1 point? Don't you think this will lead to a lot of collusion, where both players benefit and third parties suffer? Example: By round 5, the opponents have the following results: one with 4 wins, the other with 1 win (and another player in the group has 1 win and a higher kill/bonus ratio, and has already played 5 games). For the first player, the game won't matter, but the second player needs a point, so they agree to a draw, and the third player is eliminated from the tournament.

So, if one player doesn't want to play against another, and that player also isn't looking for a match, and no one requests a single duel, will the result be considered a technical draw?

For a technical draw (caused solely by the absence of both opponents), each player could be awarded zero points, as it's essentially a game that wasn't played and shouldn't increase the score for either player.
However, this wouldn't prevent hypothetical match-fixing: if they decide to agree on a draw, they'll still do so, even using the same report.
But from a tournament discipline perspective, yes, in the case of a formal absence of both opponents in a round, a zero result for both would be fair to the other participants in the group.

Let's assume, purely hypothetically, based on one group, the following scenario:
De_luxe has 4 wins and 12 points after the fifth round.
Sanin has 3 wins and 1 loss.
Georg has 2 wins and 2 losses.
Nedved46 has 1 win and 3 losses.
Korovka1987 has 1 win and 3 losses.
Chemist_Hp has 1 win and 3 losses.

And the fifth round:
De_luxe - Chemist_Hp
Sanin - Korovka1987
Georg - Nedved46

De_luxe and Sanin have no tournament motivation, and one of them, or both, throw their games to the two underdogs, without even playing or submitting reports (no-show on Odd or simply giving up the tech win), and still remain in the top two spots.
If only one throws, the other's opponent is out of luck, as Georg and Nedved46 draw.
If both throw, the underdogs have a higher KB (Knowledge Bonus) than Nedved46 and Georg, and the fifth participant is determined in this match.
If no one throws, Georg and Nedved46 draw and both advance.
That's the math we get.

P.S. All events are fictional. Any coincidences are purely accidental :D

Sanin, by losing his last match, will lose the opportunity to avoid an extra round, or even two extra rounds, in the losers' bracket. Does he need that?
De Luxe, by losing this match, will lose the opportunity to avoid an extra round in the winners' bracket. Does he need that?
(in case, by some miracle, there are 16 groups, then De Luxe, by losing a match, will get an increased chance of facing a very strong opponent already in the first round of the winners' bracket... does he need that too?)

as for 1:1 or 0:0, I don't see a problem yet - 1 point for a draw with 3 for a win is already a strong enough penalty in a group where each position differs from the next in terms of its impact on your situation in the elimination rounds.
normal results in a group are 3:0. 1:1 is already a penalty for both. instead of fighting against match-fixing, I set myself the task of creating conditions in which it will always be disadvantageous for one of the parties.

in this tournament, there are no usual 1-2 going to the winners' bracket and 3-4 to the losers' bracket. the groups have been kept because one of the goals of the tournament is to allow players to play with their favorite towns and heroes, but here each position differs from the next. if you end up lower, you will play in the elimination rounds for longer, and you will also get a stronger opponent there - there is a greater chance that you will be eliminated faster.
for now, I stick to the idea that even in the groups, the only correct maneuver from a sporting point of view will be to win each subsequent match. any slowdown will inevitably affect your position in the tournament. it is not a fact that it will be possible to take into account all the nuances from the first time, but everything was written down precisely to create such conditions. the example with Sanin and De Luxe does not impress me yet.

Here’s another example. Suppose n leading competitors have the same number of points. Two of them have one game left. In case of a draw, both are guaranteed to advance from the top positions.
It goes without saying that, depending on the situation, a draw can also be arranged between the 3rd and 4th place competitors to push them down to the 5th and 6th positions, effectively eliminating them from the tournament.
In general, how can there be a draw in a tournament? The two-week timeframe for each game allows for an additional match (even a blitz game, if necessary) to be played in case of a “fair” draw to determine the winner.

You should draw an example to illustrate what you mean. I don't understand. Based on what you're writing, I think you don't understand either. For example, I can't imagine a situation where, according to the current rules, a player in 3rd or 4th place would be eliminated and moved to 5th place in this tournament.

Sanin, by losing his last game, will lose the opportunity to avoid an extra round or even two extra rounds in the losers' bracket. Does he need that?
De Luxe, by losing this game, will lose the opportunity to avoid an extra round in the winners' bracket. Does he need that?

They will take 1st and 2nd place in any case in the final round!!!
If the transition round depends not on the place taken, but on the number of points scored, then it's a different matter.
But I didn't find anything like that in the regulations.
Only information that only the 1st places in the groups can advance to the upper bracket.

You'd better draw an example of what you're talking about. I don't understand that way. Looking at what you write, I think you don't understand either. For example, I can't even imagine a situation where moving from 3-4th place to 5th would eliminate someone from the tournament, according to the rules as they are written now.

Well, I wrote that 3-4th place moves to 5-6th. I forgot to add the word "respectively." The point is that in such a scenario, someone can be guaranteed to be eliminated, at least one person, even without playing a game. In other words, setting aside lyrical digressions and complex mathematical calculations, it is possible to strictly move someone from 4th place to 6th place through a pre-arranged draw, and even simply by not playing the game. Do I need to list all possible scenarios of such situations? Or are you saying that such scenarios don't exist? It seems like they do. For example, players 4, 5, and 6 (based on the current situation in the group) have an equal number of points. All games have been played except for one: there is still a game between 5 and 6. If they agree to a draw, or even simply don't show up for the tournament, player 4 is guaranteed to be eliminated (while theoretically still having a chance to continue in the tournament), but if they play the game according to the rules until someone wins, then such a situation is not possible. Moreover, a player who shows up for the game and loses should be valued higher than a player who doesn't show up at all... What am I getting at? I'm saying that I recommend that the judging panel discuss and remove the possibility of a 1-1 draw from the rules, while the tournament is still just beginning.

Moreover, a player who shows up for a game and loses should be valued higher than a player who doesn't show up at all, based on the odds...
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won't this lead to a "pre-arranged absence"?)) again, there's no need to throw the game, you'll just lose rating.

won't this lead to a "pre-arranged no-show"?)) again, there's no need to throw the game, you'll lose rating.

How so, if, according to my system, a no-show results in a zero or even a negative score in the rating?
I'm not quite expressing myself clearly right now, but I'm talking about the fact that someone who doesn't show up at all should lose more than someone who shows up and loses.

How does it work if, due to absence according to my system, a player receives a zero or even a negative score in the coefficients?
I'm not quite articulating it clearly right now, but I'm talking about the fact that someone who doesn't show up should lose more than someone who shows up and loses.

And does the player who receives a free win due to the opponent's absence get a smaller, the same, or a larger coefficient than the player who wins the game? If it's smaller, then there's an option for a player who has nothing to lose to simply sabotage someone who is aiming for a higher position in this way.

If a player receives a free win due to their opponent's absence, do they receive a lower, equal, or higher rating than a player who wins through a regular game? If it's lower, then there's an option for a player who has nothing to lose to simply sabotage a player who is aiming for a higher ranking.

A player who receives a free win due to their opponent's absence receives exactly the same rating as if they had won in a real game. Otherwise, what would be the point?