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11/16/2018 8:14 AM UTC

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saneok

I don't know, 2400 azure seems like a decent goal, and I think it will be achievable in a couple of years.

A player with 2200 rating, winning against a 1800 player, only gains 1 point, but loses 32 when losing. Winning/losing against a 2000 player results in +2 and -16, respectively. Considering that a 2200 player doesn't have an equal opponent, they will have to consistently win at least 9 out of 10 games. And if they participate in tournaments, they will have to maintain a pace of 30-40 consecutive wins, which is unrealistic.

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Registered: 8/25/2011 9:55 AM UTC

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11/16/2018 8:29 AM UTC

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How do you create these images? Can someone explain it in simple terms?

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Registered: 8/14/2011 10:39 AM UTC

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11/16/2018 8:54 AM UTC

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How do you create these images? Can someone explain it in simple terms?

https://github.com/Ihromant/Heroes3TourneyStatistics/tree/master/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/imageParts
Take a look; there are many images with numbers. There are also back and border images. This is about the drawing part. Next, you need to create images with text. The text is created using links that may stop working at any time, but for now, they work, and that's great. Example: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=120x30&cht=p3&chtt=hello&chts=FFFFFF,24&chf=bg,s,00000000
Then, take all the necessary images, overlay them on top of each other, and save the result in a publicly accessible folder on Google. Repeat this every 20 hours, as the operation is not very resource-efficient.

I think that's all.

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Meo

A player with a 2200 rating, winning against a 1800 rating, receives only 1 point, but loses 32 when losing. Winning/losing against a 2000 rating, respectively, +2 and -16.
Considering that the 2200-rated player doesn't have an equal opponent, they will have to consistently win at least 9 out of 10 games, and if they participate in Tournaments, they will have to maintain a pace of 30-40 consecutive wins – this is unrealistic.

By the way, you should change your cyclops image. That link is no longer valid, and the banner will not be updated using it.

Мой любимьій размер - тройка. Будь то конса, утопа или сиськи
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11/16/2018 8:57 AM UTC

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If superhumans appear in the future, or if the point system changes, then reaching 2300-2400 will be achievable. In reality, it would be good if at least one person has 2200 and maintains that level for at least some time. In my opinion, I would give a blue badge for a maximum of 2200.

The issue here isn't about superhumans, but about time. The more people with 1500 appear, the more people start reaching 1700, and so on. For comparison, in 2014, there were only a few players with 1900. And no one had 2000. Now, there are already 2-3 people with 2000, as well as 5-6 people with a rating of 1900+. I think in a couple of years, there will be several people with 2100 and a lot with 2000+. This is the rating inflation.

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11/16/2018 9:08 AM UTC

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It's not about superhumans, but about time. The more players with 1500 appear, the more people start reaching 1700 and so on. For comparison, in 2014, there were only a few players with 1900. And no one had 2000. Now there are already 2-3 people with 2000, as well as about 5-6 people with a rating of 1900+. I think in a couple of years, there will be several people with 2100 and a bunch with 2000+. This is the rating inflation.

In chess, it seems to be the same. I remember that 2400 was a very cool player, then they made grandmasters 2500+, and now all sorts of Carlsens are breaking records again. I think it's inevitable in the Elo rating system as the number of people increases.

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By the way, what do you think about graphs? What other graphs would be cool to add?

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Registered: 3/22/2007 11:44 PM UTC

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11/16/2018 9:18 AM UTC

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Ihromant

What other graphs would be cool to add?

Instead of a graph, you could add statistics (wins/losses) for games played with different castles (including the opponent's castles) and templates, presented in a table.

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11/16/2018 9:39 AM UTC

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Meo

Instead of a graph, it would be good to have statistics (wins/losses) for games played with different castles (including the opponent's castles) and templates, presented in a table.

By the way, it would be great if someone could collect the best images of template schemes. Also, images of castles. And ideally, it would be good if someone could think about how the table with castle-template combinations should look. Otherwise, I'll do it the way I see fit, and then there will be a lot of comments like "it could have been done this way."

Wrap the image in (bracket)IMG][/IMG] in the signature.

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Registered: 3/19/2015 3:15 AM UTC

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11/16/2018 9:59 AM UTC

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I don't know, but even if someone gives you a ready-made solution, it doesn't exempt you from feedback. In my opinion, what has been done is great, and you should continue developing it according to your vision. The most important thing is to have more functionality, and I don't think the community will have any problems learning how to use it.

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11/16/2018 10:56 AM UTC

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Ihromant

By the way, it would be nice...

The first table:
horizontally - castle icons,
vertically - "win by" and "lose to" (numbers in the "lose to" row are red)

The second table:
horizontally - template names in text,
vertically - "wins" and "loses"

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Registered: 3/23/2013 5:23 PM UTC

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11/16/2018 8:55 PM UTC

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I understand that the person was writing about the lobby rating (which will hardly become representative in the next year or two anyway).
But we can also take this idea and apply it here. Add an alternative rating based only on Tournaments games.
For starters, just let people view it.

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Registered: 8/14/2011 10:39 AM UTC

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11/16/2018 9:27 PM UTC

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http://heroes3stat.appspot.com/templates
I created statistics on templates. The template names are clickable.
It's cool and informative statistics.

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It would be great if someone collected beautiful pictures for the templates; they could be put in a column as well.

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I also fixed the URL for inserting it into the signature. It turns out that last time it was messed up by the auto-renaming. I should have gone to bed yesterday :D

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Registered: 3/27/2016 8:35 AM UTC

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11/17/2018 3:39 AM UTC

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The results for 6LM are impressive – such a significant lead over all the others. I was also surprised that there aren't that many fewer games on 8mm6a compared to 6lm10a. In my opinion, the difference should be much greater, but perhaps 8mm was simply more popular before, and I didn't experience that time. I also remembered something that surprised me – where did this Panic come from in OFB, since no one plays it. Looking at the stats by template, it becomes clear how Panic ended up in the template pool, and not, for example, CMK. Overall, it's great that we have such tools for analysis. Kudos to Iroman! On those templates with many games, the labels disappear, making it not very convenient to view – you have to hover the mouse over them. This probably happens because there are more columns (they are closer together). As an option, you could make the labels appear every 1 or 2 columns, but without them, it's inconvenient.

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11/17/2018 5:08 PM UTC

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How do you create these images? Can someone explain it in simple terms?

[url***=http://heroes3stat.appspot.com/rating/overall/NAME][/url]

You need to remove the asterisks and replace NAME with your nickname in two places. You will get an image with your rating, and clicking on it will take you directly to the website.

Ihromant

I also fixed the URL for inserting it into the signature. It turns out that last time it was messed up by the auto-renaming. I should have gone to bed yesterday :D

By the way, some people still have the banner using the old link (Sanya and Dima Surmai, for example).

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11/26/2018 8:45 PM UTC

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While the Gamemaster is taking a break, I'll provide an update on his behalf:
A new batch of improvements has been added to the rating:

1. Finally, the starting games that were previously in spreadsheets have been added.
Now, AlexTheGreat has reappeared in the top overall rankings.

2. The Tournament rating page is now working.
The idea is that this is the most competitive version of the rating, which only relies on tournaments (seasonal themes are not taken into account).
The second column on that page is the current season.
The third column is the 3 most recent completed seasons plus the current season (so currently, it's the period from 01.12.2016).
This is the first version, so we'll continue to monitor it.

3. The design of the page has been adjusted according to the templates.
The graphs have been tidied up – now they are all the same width.

4. Errors in the signature banners have been fixed.
In some places, the images of swamp and barbarian monsters were mixed up.

P.S. What does this have to do with technical support?

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