Discussions, post-mortems, analysis, inflated egos, and all that jazz. — Tournament Committee

Grando

7 years ago

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evil_romantic

Hmm, then what is the purpose of the Forum section where flame and flood rules do not apply?

In my opinion – everything is written in the first post of that topic.
And where did you get the information that the flame and flood rules don't apply there?

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злой_романтик

7 years ago

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Al Feyn

In my opinion, everything is written in the first post of that thread.
And where did you get the information that the rules against flaming and flooding are not enforced there?

Well, at least from the fact that I am a moderator of Tribuna :D, and I never gave points for flooding there and very rarely for flaming, only if it crossed all boundaries.

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sonic111

7 years ago

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Alphein is a completely unreasonable person!!!! What other topics can you expect from an inadequate individual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Grando

7 years ago

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злой_романтик

Well, at least because I am a moderator of the Forum :D and I never gave points there for off-topic posts and very rarely for flame wars, only if they went beyond all limits.

You just wrote that the rules regarding flame wars do somehow work there, even in your case :p
And what is the point of the phrase that you are a moderator of the Forum? Are you the only moderator of that topic, or do you not moderate anything except that topic? Or something else?

sonic111

Alphein is an unreasonable guy!!!! What other topics can come from an inadequate person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As they say, thank you for your feedback strictly on the topic.
20+ exclamation marks are quite an accurate indicator so that an unbiased reader can figure out which side to look for the inadequate person on.
If anyone doesn't know, Sonic and I also have an unfinished discussion from another topic - Sonic has been angry with me since January, it is obvious that my tone was aggressive there, but the reason - mocking Techwin in a harmless situation - I still consider worthy of a negative (at least) reaction - I have already suggested several times to Sonic to discuss this situation in private messages, including on Skype, but so far without success. Once again, I suggest discussing it in private messages. We can also do it here, but it is obviously easier to express everything you think freely in private messages, and the process will be faster and simpler.

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=Lizard=

7 years ago

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sir Davos Seaworth

What low self-esteem. He should aim for a decillion :D

Well, you've learned to troll pretty well, that's clear. But somehow, you can't create a decent argument anymore, without the old spark... we're getting old.

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sir Davos Seaworth

7 years ago

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=Lizard=

You've certainly gotten good at trolling, that's clear. But somehow, you can't create a decent argument, without the old spark... we're getting old.

You don't seem to understand anything. There's no trolling here. It's just sarcasm.
Years really don't make anyone look better, but
I have absolutely no desire to start an argument, and I don't now. I simply tried to explain, using an analogy, how unpleasant
it looks from the outside when someone so persistently tries to pass off caricatures and fakes as originals. It could have been music as an example, or something else, it doesn't matter anymore.
But, unfortunately, it's impossible to explain this to someone who doesn't even want to try to understand (showing off their ego is much more important, isn't it?). But those who want to will understand it themselves. That's all.

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Marcus Aurelius

7 years ago

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Well, the number of these "true Soda fans" speaks for itself. One and a half "cripples"). They've just become tiresome with their constant attacks. I personally prefer HotA, but I still respect Soda as the original version of the game. But to stay in Soda and be afraid to try something new – that's what "shame and degradation" really mean. P.S. This topic isn't very good; it would be better to move it to the "tribune" section.

Grando

7 years ago

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Sure, no problem. If someone seriously believes that their text is suitable for The Soapbox ("If you want to discuss something and there isn't a suitable topic, post it here... I strongly ask you to avoid swearing and insults. If you want to argue, go ahead, but that doesn't mean you can insult each other... Use it only for its intended purpose.")... well, if they accidentally ended up in HoMM3 HD Bug Reports and then got moved here – feel free to contact me privately. If the arguments are convincing, I might move it to The Soapbox. Also, just as a reminder, The Soapbox is open. You can always go there and write your message anytime.

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MerlinTheMagician

7 years ago

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=Lizard=

That is, I know a billion times more and better about both Heroes and music.

As a person who knows firsthand what a diminished fifth and a cadential quartsext are, and who can also distinguish moderato from mordent, I would like to note that most of the "creativity" of Kurt Cobain, in terms of music (from a professional terminology point of view), has only an indirect and mediated relationship.
And the analogy with Kurt Cobain is also not correct, just like the analogy with Mikhailovsky Mozart - both are absurd.
However, this is essentially a different game. Just as different as the version of Warlords was at the time.
If we talk about musical analogies: Hota is more like variations on a theme. Likewise, any other unofficial version is a variation on a theme.
It's just that the "composer is dead," and all that remains is to either listen to the original or listen to variations (or try to write your own variations). And from there, it's a personal choice for everyone.
So far, variations come and go, but the original lives on. What will happen next, time will tell and everything will fall into place.

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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kamukag3e

7 years ago

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A question for all players: Why don't hardcore "HotA" players play "SoD" at all, while hardcore "SoD" players (or whatever you call yourselves) play with "HotA"? Answers similar to this message are not interesting.

Marcus Aurelius

Although I prefer "HotA", I pay tribute to "SoD" as the original version of the game.

The answer should be to the point, and there's no need to use authority as Kostya (Lizard) always does.

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Nodl

7 years ago

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kamukag3e

A question for all players: Why don't hardcore HotA players play Shades of Darkness at all, while hardcore SoD players (or whatever you call yourselves) play with SoD?

That's a strange question. I'm a "hardcore HotA player" and I don't play SoD at all.
I just don't like many of the things that are present in SoD, but have been fixed or reworked in HotA.

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MerlinTheMagician

7 years ago

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kamukag3e

A question for all players: Why don't hardcore fans of the original game play HotA at all, while hardcore fans of the newer versions (or whatever you call yourselves) play with SoD?

Hmm. The answer "I don't like it" probably won't be satisfactory. Because it will be followed by the question - what exactly...
I don't like the abundance of new objects, which adds variety to scenarios but doesn't work with the overall game balance (as was the case, for example, in WoTA, when the schools of magic were balanced by moving damage spells to water and protection to fire, and slow was on the second level, balancing skills with classes and updated functionality). I don't like the graphical redraws of existing elements (orcs, pikemen), the redraws of the battlefield landscape, and the avatars of individual heroes. In fact, the graphics are what repels me the most.
The number of new objects in HotA is, in my opinion, excessive.
Some of HotA's solutions are great, some, in my opinion, are unnecessary. The amount of unnecessary things, personally for me, outweighs the amount of useful ones.
And between the HotA version and the WoTA version, with the addition of simultaneous turn play and timely bug fixes, I would choose WoTA. Between SoD and WoTA, I would choose WoTA, especially since the settings allowed me to play WoTA like SoD. But between SoD and HotA, my choice is definitely SoD.

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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socola

7 years ago

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Nodl

That's a strange question. I consider myself a "true HotA player" and I don't play SoD at all.
I simply don't like many of the things that are present in SoD, but have been fixed or reworked in HotA.

I agree; I haven't played SoD in quite a while and can't imagine what would make me play even one game.
In SoD, a fairly large percentage of generated maps are either buggy or unplayable for one of the players (blocked paths, a poorly designed road network, etc.). When you find time to play, you want to have a good game and enjoy the process, not stare at 20 gnolls in the starting army and a one-way road. In HotA, at least there's always a more or less balanced road network and a decent starting army. Not to mention that HotA itself is much more diverse and has a lot of useful features that simply make the gameplay more enjoyable.
And yes, I don't think this is "casualizing" the game. It's about creating more equal conditions for both players, but it's not about simplifying the game. After all, with a good road network and a good starting army, you simply have to play aggressively and take objectives and fight difficult guards much earlier.
Of course, everything I've said is just my opinion

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=Lizard=

7 years ago

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Sir Davos Seaworth

...how disgusting it looks from the outside when they so persistently try to pass off caricatures and fakes as the original...

Who exactly is trying to "pass off something as the original game"? It's completely out of the blue.

I also disagree with Merlin's (and other people's) position that HotA is just another game, like World of Tanks, but that's closer to the truth.

If you don't like the examples from music, I've given examples from sports many times. Football in its "original" form didn't have offsides. Basketball didn't have a 3-second zone. And so on. Does that mean they are just variations on a theme? "Different games"?

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Benis_xDD

7 years ago

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kamukag3e

A question for all players: Why don't hardcore SOD players play HotA at all, while hardcore HotA players (or whatever you call yourselves) play SOD? Answers similar to this post are not interesting.

I need an answer to the point, there's no need to use authority like Kostya (Lizard) always does.

Because, despite all the advantages of HotA, there are still interesting things in SOD that didn't make it into HotA.
The only thing I really dislike about SOD is the blocking.
And now, a little something to stir things up!
I was ultimately convinced to stop playing SOD not by the ubiquitous blocking, but by the HW rules.
Sir Davos portrays himself as a "defender of true heroes," but he himself is not much less of a heretic than the "crowds of angry fans" he imagines (in the form of Lizard, perhaps :smile52:). So, hardcore SOD players also don't play Heroes 3, but SOD + HW rules 1.38/1.40. And it is all these bans on redraws, restrictions on the Grail, bans on upgrades, bans on bypassing guards, visiting objects without breaking through + all the weird situations that result from this... it just aesthetically bothers me a lot. I tried to get used to it for a long time, but I couldn't.
But otherwise, I enjoy playing both HotA and Anarchy in SOD :)

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