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Should we give the Shadow Men another chance?
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yes, give it a second chance
65.6% 21 votes
no, disqualification for sure!
34.4% 11 votes
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So, here's the deal:
ACCUSED: player shadowmen of unfair play in the "Summer Tournaments" against opponent Pandora.
Respected shadowmen used prohibited methods during the game against respected Pandora and committed a serious online crime in the form of cheating. But thanks to Pandora's vigilance, who made saves, she managed to detect a huge amount of money with shadowmen and a large number of imps, totaling 1000 (evidence: /topic/2938/ post number 77).
But he showed courage and confessed to his deed, as evidenced by post number 87 /topic/2938/.
If he hadn't confessed, there would have been no investigation, and he would have been disqualified forever.
But he confessed.
Esteemed jurors (aka forum members), let's vote: give him a second chance or disqualify him permanently. The choice is yours. The poll will run until 1.10.07, after which a decision will be made, and the topic will be closed. Sincerely,
P.S. If you give him a second chance, it will simply be a "slight scare," meaning he will receive 4 losses in the ranking (this figure is not exact; it may change)
P.S. P.S. Please explain your votes.
Sincerely, OptiMAL
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In my opinion, he deserves a second chance because:
1) The tournament is amateur, and therefore there wouldn't be any major consequences anyway; the winner of the tournament doesn't gain anything besides positive emotions (the rating appeared later).
2) He is still a novice, and although the violation was intentional, it can be understood.
I believe that giving him a second chance wouldn't be a crime. In any case, people will still treat him with caution. This will be enough for him for the first time.
2 Shadowman, keep playing, but do it honestly; you'll gain experience, learn the nuances, and playing will become interesting for you without using codes.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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I voted for the second option because I am strongly against unsportsmanlike behavior, which casts a shadow not only on the player but also on the tournament itself, its prestige, and on the organizers and their good name. Of course, it is not up to me to decide, but if such a situation occurred within a tournament that I oversee, it would be clear what I would do, but in any case, the decision rests solely with the organizers.
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I also think: "We should give him a second chance"))
As mentioned, Shadowman is a newbie, and it's understandable that he made mistakes, but he should also learn from this experience...
Dear "veterans" (no offense), we need to be "strictly lenient" with newcomers. We shouldn't allow them to cheat or cause trouble, but we also shouldn't punish them with bans, at least not the first time...
Ваши интересы и учеба\работа


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He deserves a second chance. But, to be honest, playing with such a player won't be very enjoyable, knowing about his past cheating. In general, let him continue playing, but he shouldn't do it again. By the way, if there were approximately as many players in the fourth game as there are in the third or fifth Heroes game, then there wouldn't be so many discussions like this, but in our case, every participant is valuable.
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It’s worth giving someone a second chance. He admitted it! So, let him continue playing, but without such misconduct. And kudos to Pandora for her vigilance!
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In my opinion, in your case, it’s worth giving this player another chance to play fairly without using cheats. As far as I understand, he has repented – and you don’t punish someone who shows remorse ;) But this is only for the first time. The second time – a swift kick in the pants :) with a permanent footprint left on one spot :)
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I think it should be left as is. 1. He used cheats because he's not mature enough yet (but we seem to be helping him with that). 2. He admitted it, which means he wants to play fairly here (because there are still forums with Heroes tournaments). 3. And he won't cheat anymore because he knows it's easily detected.
Каждый может быть героем ...
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I'll express my opinion as one of the organizers...
Although I've already said it, I'll repeat myself.
Of course, he violated the rules (due to his youth and lack of knowledge that this would be easily revealed) and was disqualified from the Summer Tournament...
But I still believe that he shouldn't be banned from tournaments altogether... He confessed to everything and now perfectly understands that he was wrong and what this will cost him now - the loss of trust!!!!
I think he should be given another chance, but with the caveat that he won't get a second one ever!!! But in general, this is up to the other tournament organizers...
But personally, I'm not against his further participation! BUT not within the framework of the Summer Tournament - it's over for him!
So, it's up to the majority and the organizers in particular to decide!!! I repeat, I'm FOR giving him a second chance!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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I voted FOR a second chance because the person confessed, rather than denying everything like the recent case of the "double." If he has repented, it means he doesn't want to simply give up on everything and be exiled... Otherwise, I would have voted the other way. In general, I believe that when a person acknowledges their mistakes and wrongdoing, it shows strength... it's even heroic in a way.
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело.
Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:

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I think he deserves a second chance. He confessed himself, which means he has a conscience. I know how sometimes the temptation to cheat arises, but I've never done it myself. Shadowman, my advice to you is: don't do it again. Even if you had won that way, would it have brought you pleasure? You've only hurt yourself, because you confessed, which means you have a conscience, and it might be tormenting you right now. It's more interesting to play without cheats; learn, practice, and such situations won't arise again. With all due respect.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
In reply to eXeCuToR
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of course, he should be given a chance. anything can happen in a game, and sometimes the excitement overrides all the rules, but I think this will be a lesson for this young man for the future. he won't make such mistakes again and will treat his opponent with respect. And most importantly, if you lose, you should lose with dignity.
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Here, like many others, I'll say a few words: I don't think I have the right to say whether to "remove" him from "here" or not. The thing is, Shadowman "deceived," "tricked," and even, without exaggeration, "betrayed" Pandora, personally her and ONLY her in the first place, and only then the other forum members (no offense intended). So, let her say what she thinks about this, and I, in turn, will support her. Pandora, I'm with you, but I think this is primarily YOUR decision; think about it.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
In reply to Ley
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Ley;111630

Pandora, I'm on your side, but I think this is primarily YOUR decision. Think it over...
I don't quite agree. This isn't about a personal matter, but about a violation, and not just any violation (if it were a simple violation, say, using a bug or cheating in a minor way, then it would be a personal matter).
It's a violation involving the use of cheats. Therefore, it affects everyone because he can play against anyone. That's why there's a vote to decide whether to give him a second chance so that he understands that he can't do that.
With respect.
:D
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OptiMAL;111632
I don't quite agree. The issue here isn't about a personal dispute, but about a violation – and not just any violation (if it were a simple violation, like exploiting a bug or cheating in a minor way, then it would be a personal matter).
This is a violation involving the use of cheats. Therefore, it affects everyone because he can play against anyone. That's why there's a vote to decide whether to give him a second chance so that he understands that this is not acceptable.
With respect.

But he primarily offended her, and it could have happened to anyone, so what? – I would support anyone. I may be wrong, or I may have a completely absurd point of view, but in my opinion, it is Pandora who should decide this, and only then should we. Many here voted in favor of Shadow, some voted "absolutely not!" – that is your right, I said my third version and I believe that this is also my right. After all, the topic was created specifically to discuss this "story," right?
You remember Jois (or something like that), the situation was much worse there; everyone was really offended, and it didn't matter whether you participated in that tournament or not. That guy had 16 accounts, and 5 of them participated in that tournament – that was a different story...
In short, I just stated my opinion, and that's it. Don't take it as an offense to anyone; I just expressed myself like that... :)

With respect, Ley.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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