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Ley

9/11/2007 3:42 PM UTC

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I personally came up with different options here: first, to "remove" him, and then, if he is still allowed to participate, give him a chance to participate in other tournaments – and there is a point to that, and so that he doesn't change his nickname and so that no incidents occur.
But I haven't voted at all, because I said in my first post that we need to listen to Pandora herself, and I will stick to that opinion, please.

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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LeSHiJ-MaX

9/11/2007 3:44 PM UTC

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IronAxe;111959

And if he does it under a different nickname and IP address, will it be easier for you? :)

Let him suffer and change all his data every time. Until he starts playing fairly, but don't give him any slack, or other participants will be tempted to do the same.
P.S. Regarding this particular subject, I think either he will change his nickname (which I suggested to him) and play fairly, or he's a complete ...:D. You just need to see his moves.
I often regret that I don't have your ICQ.

Sincerely, LeSHiJ-MaX.

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

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IronAxe

9/11/2007 3:44 PM UTC

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OptiMAL;111954

I agree.
But will other players want to play with him? Of course, everything can be changed, including the nickname and IP address... But what's the point? Does he need all this hassle with changing his IP address and using a proxy? If this person is unscrupulous, he will find a way to cause trouble or something similar.
My post simply showed my current position. Of course, he will be able to do what he did again, only more carefully... And it's online, not offline... It's harder to catch him there.
P.S. Of course, he can be placed under strict control, so that he reports on all his actions and battles and makes the appropriate saves... But we don't have cameras in his house, do we? Previously convicted criminals commit crimes again, only now they are more organized, taking into account the mistakes of the past.

But there are examples of people who choose to change their ways - so shouldn't we give them a chance? And will other players want to play with him? Within the framework of a tournament, they will have to. And then, most forum users, based on the vote, decided to give him a second chance - which means they will want to. In general, purely subjectively, what OptiMAL doesn't like is, IF I played online, I would prefer that this person play in the next tournament under his old nickname, rather than suspecting every newcomer, wondering if it's Shadow again and if he's cheating again

Draga Musa Welli

9/11/2007 3:48 PM UTC

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RRR, where did you get the idea that he thought he wouldn't be caught! That everything would end smoothly? He probably won before using cheats and continued to do so, intoxicated by victory! He took risks and won! And now, look what happened! He got caught, apologized, but there will be others who want to find an easier way to win! What do you think attracts them? The taste of victory!!!!

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eXeCuToR

9/11/2007 3:50 PM UTC

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Ley;111967

I personally came up with different options here: first, to "remove" him, and then, if he is still allowed to participate, give him a chance to participate in other tournaments – and there is a point to that, and so that he doesn't change his nickname and so that no incidents occur.
But I haven't voted at all, because I said in my first post that we need to listen to Pandora herself, and I will stick to that opinion, please.

I completely agree with you, and I also want to express my great respect for Pandora, who has proven to be a very attentive player.

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

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IronAxe

9/11/2007 3:56 PM UTC

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LeSHiJ-MaX

Let him suffer and change all the data every time. Until he starts playing fairly, but don't give him any slack, or other participants will be tempted to do the same.

Other players, especially those who are not very bright, won't be tempted to do the same, so they won't end up having their bones picked clean later, right? It's unlikely anyone would voluntarily do that. :)

LeSHiJ-MaX

P.S. Regarding this particular subject, I think he'll either change his nickname (which I suggested to him) and play fairly, or he's a complete idiot :D. You just need to see his moves.

Yes, I already understand that he's a newbie. But changing his nickname is a stroke of luck for him, don't you understand?

LeSHiJ-MaX

I often regret that I don't have your ICQ.

495184259 - (Axe)
True, I'm rarely online there. But if something comes up, feel free to contact me ;)

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LeSHiJ-MaX

9/11/2007 3:56 PM UTC

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eXeCuToR;111977

I completely agree with you, and I also want to express my great respect for Pandora, who has proven to be a very attentive player.

I'm sure it will be a SHOCK for her, as she hasn't seen this thread yet:D
I hope she won't reread everything that has been written. I wonder, does she have the power to close this thread?:smile40:

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

Svercha

9/11/2007 3:56 PM UTC

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Damn, I already regret voting for Shadowman....((((, after reading Leshy-Max's arguments....
So, it turns out that first we tear everyone apart (presumably with the help of cheats), and then, when we get caught, we suddenly become an innocent and inexperienced newbie...
That's it, now I don't know what to believe! But, I repeat, I regret my vote!! So consider that as -1 vote for Shadowman!!!

Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело.
Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:

Draga Musa Welli

9/11/2007 4:03 PM UTC

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IronAxe I agree with you on some points. We shouldn't let up – there will be more and more skilled cheaters who manage to hide their use of cheats! With respect, Draga Musa Welli.

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LeSHiJ-MaX

9/11/2007 4:07 PM UTC

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IronAxe;111980

But changing his nickname is a good thing for him, don't you understand?

I understand:cool:! But specifically for him, it would be better to start everything from the beginning:smile20:

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

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IronAxe

9/11/2007 4:11 PM UTC

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Draga Musa Welli;111991

IronAxe I agree with you on some points. We shouldn't show weakness; otherwise, there will be more skilled cheaters who manage to expertly conceal their use of cheats! With respect, Draga Musa Welli.

That's exactly the point; they'll show weakness by acting as if they first told this newbie about the codes, then caught him using them, and now they're advising him to change his nickname and go out into the forum with a clear conscience. But showing strength would mean leaving him with this nickname and INVITING him to the next tournament. ;)
P.S. Well, I'll probably join the online battles next year too. ;)
In my opinion, many don't understand, and ShadowMen is one of them. If he wins the next tournament under his old nickname, his gameplay will be thoroughly analyzed. But if he wins under a new nickname (no one knows it's him), the scrutiny won't be as intense. :)

Draga Musa Welli

9/11/2007 4:12 PM UTC

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I'm eagerly awaiting IronAxe! Let's test our Wisdom and Tactics!

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IronAxe

9/11/2007 4:17 PM UTC

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LeSHiJ-MaX;111992

I understand:cool:! But specifically for him, it's better to start everything from the beginning:smile20:

Leshiy, I don't understand you anymore. So, are you worried about him or about the forum and other fair players? ;)

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Draga Musa Welli;111997

I'm eagerly waiting for IronAxe! Let's compete in Wisdom and Tactics!

I think I'm probably a weak opponent in online play for now, the tactics are different here - you need to try. While you're waiting for me, don't waste your time - compete with the current online pros for now.

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OptiMAL

9/11/2007 4:18 PM UTC

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IronAxe;111995

PS. Well, I'll probably join the online battles next year too ;)

OFFTOP: What's up with next year? Come to the next tournament:)
And if we're talking about the topic, we need to think about it. How to proceed... Although you're right... We can do it that way too...

:D

Draga Musa Welli

9/11/2007 4:21 PM UTC

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IronAxe Don't say you're weak! Assert that you are stronger than everyone else! And then you won't even notice how you surpass others! Say "I CAN'T" until you can!

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