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#122
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You should really consider that taking screenshots while viewing the map (ground/air view) should be considered a violation of the rules. Since the cost of one unit implies that, firstly, it is possible to do this every turn, and, secondly, the spell can only be cast during your turn (and not during your opponent's turn, essentially using the spell during their turn). There were complaints against Sanya in the CIS community for blatantly creating models of upcoming battles in the editor. In my opinion, these are all manifestations of the same problem.
Also, banning the "guard calculator" is exactly what is called a third-party program that allows you to influence the game process in the rules. And there's no need to talk nonsense and compare it to a regular calculator...
And those who will sing songs about how it's impossible to track this at all – well, it's almost impossible to track stream sniping too. In any case, almost everything in Heroes is based on trust. You just need the will to enforce it...
Or maybe the Grail got in their way... 5x5 is 25 squares, just so you know. And if you're unlucky with the terrain (open area - which is very common), then it takes 4-5 days to dig it out (and that's if you're digging with 4-5 heroes, not two, and even then, close to the city so you can recruit new units). 4-5 days of lost tempo. 4-5 days without full-fledged resource chains, while your opponent eats a couple of treasures and arrives with a Red Dragon and 30 stats. The Grail is definitely a part of the game, just like any other. And this component requires assessing the risks in each specific game situation. It is obvious that the bonuses of individual cities need to be adjusted somehow. But, I repeat, the problem is solved very simply - remove these bonuses altogether, leaving only the growth bonus and +5k. Or, place the Grail only in the starting city - and then it will be an additional factor in the auction.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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#123
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Everyone who argues for a Grail ban, explain why having a Grail nearby on the map + having a Conflux is imbalanced, and not random? Why is having КЗ and КВ nearby on the map random, and not imbalanced?

First of all, КЗ and КВ nearby — where? On which template does that happen? With what probability? What nonsense is this? Even if, say, a Dragon Utopia gives КЗ+КВ, that's random — you don't know in advance what it will drop. If we're talking about a treasure zone, say on Minos, the chance of having КВ and КЗ nearby is incomparably smaller than a Grail on respawn. Moreover, taking a Dragon Utopia or breaking guards for relics is slightly harder than breaking an obelisk guard. Besides, getting КЗ and КВ implies that you'll find an army somewhere, level up your hero. That is, you'll actually play Heroes. Whereas digging for the Grail is more like playing Minesweeper.
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MerlinTheMagician
You should rather consider that taking screenshots while viewing the map/air view should be considered a violation of the rules. Since the cost of one unit implies that it is possible to do this every turn, and firstly, the spell can only be cast during your turn (and not during the opponent's turn, essentially using this spell).
In my opinion, on the contrary, the viewing data should be saved programmatically so that it can be studied during the opponent's turn.
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Everyone who complains about banning the Grail, explain why having the Grail nearby on the map + having a Conflux is overpowered, and not just random? Why having a Castle and a Fortress nearby on the map is random, and not overpowered?
Because you have to fight for the Castle and the Fortress. On Anarchy, artifacts can be obtained for free (I won't even mention scrolls), so there are no complaints about the Grail there. I believe that such a boost in the form of free full control should not be obtained for free. Everyone who talks about the time spent is absolutely right, however, even when excavations take more than a week, the reward is too high for simply digging in the ground.

When excavations first became popular, one strong player messaged me on ICQ and asked: "Now, in order for me not to lose to a digger, do I need to learn and train to dig myself?". I couldn't find an adequate answer.

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In my opinion, on the contrary, it is necessary to programmatically save the viewing data so that it can be studied on someone else's turn.
I wrote to Baratortch to make a program that saves screenshots in a special folder, like in all modern games. But I didn't get an answer.
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So it turns out to be some kind of double bookkeeping...
A guard calculator is allowed, but the topic of the upgrade tree is forbidden...
In the second case - we know the upgrades, in the first - we know what's in Pandora's box...

And as for the Grail - yes indeed, learn to dig, why not? But only place it in the starting town (and if it's already been taken from you - take it back) - and everyone will be happy. You could also introduce a minimum number of visited obelisks - off the top of my head, 5...
And regarding the guards for КЗ and КВ - when was the last time you looked at Jebus Cross? I recently saw angel wings on someone's respawn instead of simple ogres... An orator's hat instead of buratins. For some reason, when control is placed on a respawn - everyone says: "What a layout, my good man." But as soon as someone starts digging (and you still have to find them; you can actually mess up with just one or two obelisks and start digging in the wrong place) - then immediately: "Get him! To the stake! Burn Reddy!".
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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#127
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But that's for the really lazy. Nothing prevents you from downloading any screenshot program so that it saves directly to the save folder, and you can press the print screen button 10 times.
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MerlinTheMagician
Calculators for odds are allowed, but discussing build trees is prohibited...
In the second case, we know the build, and in the first, we know what's in the Dungeon.
What's your opinion on Hold'em Manager? ;)

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Aiwe
Well, that's for the really lazy. Nothing prevents you from downloading any program for screenshots, so it saves them directly to a folder and you can press the print screen button 10 times.
Is quickly transferring armies and artifacts also for the lazy? :D
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MerlinTheMagician
You should rather think about the fact that taking screenshots during map/air view should be considered a violation of the rules. Since the cost of one unit implies that, firstly, it is possible to do this every turn, and, secondly, the spell can only be cast during your turn (and not during the opponent's turn, essentially using this spell). There were complaints against Sanya in the CIS community for blatantly creating models of upcoming battles in the editor. In my opinion, these are all manifestations of the same problem.
Also, banning the guard calculator is exactly what is called a third-party program that allows you to influence the game process. And there is no need to talk nonsense and compare it to a regular calculator...
And those who will sing songs about how it is impossible to track this in any way – well, it is almost impossible to track stream sniping. In any case, almost everything in Heroes is based on trust. You just need the will...
Or maybe the Grail got in their way... 5x5 is 25 cells, just so you know. And if you are unlucky with the terrain (open area - which happens all the time), then you need to spend 4-5 days digging (and this is if you dig with 4-5 heroes, and not two, and even near the city, so that you can recruit new ones). 4-5 days of lost tempo. 4-5 days without full-fledged chains, and the opponent will eat a couple of treasures and arrive with a red ball and 30 stats. The Grail is definitely the same component of the game as any other. And this component requires assessing the risks in each specific game situation. It is obvious that something needs to be done to fix the bonuses of individual cities. But, I repeat, the problem is solved very simply - remove these bonuses altogether, leaving only the growth and +5k. Or, we only place the Grail in the starting city - and then this will be an additional component in the auction.

I also believe that saving screenshots of map views should be considered a violation of the rules, as it goes beyond the boundaries of the Heroes sandbox.
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I remember one streamer stepped away from his computer during an opponent’s turn, and while he was gone, his unit was attacked and defeated by an enemy hero before he could take his next turn. When he returned, he uploaded a recording of his stream to see what army the enemy hero had. Is that also a sin? :)
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#131
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Building the Grail only in the starting town seems like the most sensible option.
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#132
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Is quick army and artifact transfer also for lazy players? :D

Well, it saves a lot of time in the game. Screenshots take 30 seconds per game to review. I agree that it would be cool to integrate this into the game, but it's not super important, unlike quick army transfer.
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#133
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Has the topic of using more than one monitor with the game been discussed already? Is it okay to start a new thread about it?
Мой стрим-канал: http://heroes3.tv/Grizvald.

Восстановил старый номер аси, теперь тут: 625045517

"Это нам идеально подходит" (с)

"Лабета - папашка на первую неделю" (с)

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#134
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By the way, I wouldn't mind a ban on screenshots, but it would be impossible to check, so I don't know.

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Have you discussed the topic of using more than 1 monitor on a computer? Is it okay to bring it up?

By the way, yes! :smile45:
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Wicc
I remember one streamer stepped away from his computer during his turn, and while he was gone, his hero was attacked and killed by an enemy hero before he could take his turn. When he returned, this streamer uploaded a recording of his stream to see what army the enemy hero had. Is that also a sin? :)
Conditionally, yes. You can ask your opponent what happened to your hero and what killed him, and it's up to the opponent to decide whether to answer and how accurately (replaying the turn will show who killed his hero) - that's how people used to play... now there are different games, different paces, and maybe it's worth adapting and allowing something.

If the game cannot be hacked, set a limit on digging (125-131), even if you remove the bonuses from the cartographer and all magic, there's too much free stuff in the first week.
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Wicc
I remember one streamer stepping away from his computer during his turn, and while he was gone, his unit was attacked by an enemy unit and killed before he could take his next turn. When he returned, this streamer uploaded a recording of his stream to see what army the enemy unit had. Is that also a sin? :)
Recording your own game is like having a dashcam in your car. I don't see anything wrong with watching your own recording.
scorp
if the game cannot be hacked
If a person is willing to cheat and has the ability to hack the game, then using cheats is still a relatively harmless thing to do.