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Ley

19 years ago

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pagan;107239

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b. The Grail can be unearthed after 5 weeks of gameplay.

In this regard, the question is: in my opinion, it is also necessary to indicate that ALL obelisks MUST be visited, or do you have a different opinion?

Sincerely.

BotINKi

19 years ago

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The tournament interested me... but only SoD is available. Please provide links and explanations on how to convert SoD to TE, and also a manual somewhere. Thank you in advance. Sorry for the slow response

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Kyle

19 years ago

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BotINKi;107754

The Tournaments mod has piqued my interest... but I only have SoD. Please provide links and explanations on how to convert SoD into a version compatible with the Tournaments mod, as well as a manual somewhere.
Thank you in advance. Sorry for being slow on the uptake :)

1. First, you need to install WoG on top of SoD; you can download it from here.
Instructions for installing WoG are available here.

2. Then, install TE on top of WoG; you can download it from here.
Installation instructions for TE are included in the archive file named Readme!
It is impossible to install TE without WoG!

However, I'm not sure if the TE that I linked to is the correct version. There might be a newer update available.

Sincerely.

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pagan

19 years ago

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Ley;107734

In this regard, the question is: in my opinion, it is also necessary to indicate that ALL obelisks MUST be visited, or do you have a different opinion?

Sincerely.

It is not realistic to visit ALL obelisks in 5 weeks, especially since the game often lasts less than 5 weeks / 5-6 weeks... therefore, it is irrelevant.

Kyle;107756

1. First, you need to install WOG on SoD, you can download it here.
Instructions for installing WOG are here.

2. Then, install TE on WOG, you can download it here.
Installation instructions for TE are inside the archive in the Readme file!
It is impossible to install TE without WOG!

I'm just not sure if the TE I linked to is the correct version. Perhaps there is already a new update available.

Sincerely.

Everything is correct, only the TE version is 103q, and you can get it here http://forum.heroesleague.ru/viewtopic.php?t=985

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Quaker

19 years ago

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It is unrealistic to visit ALL obelisks in 5 weeks, especially since the game usually lasts less than 5-6 weeks... therefore, it is not relevant.

I also think that this should be specified in the rules. Games usually do not last longer than a month, but sometimes they drag on. And the Grail provides almost a 100% chance of victory.
I wanted to ask another question about banned artifacts: are the Power of the Dragon Father, Cursed Armor, and Angel Wings not banned?
And also, Mountain Portal, Dimension Door, Flight, and Water Walking?
I insist on banning Flight, Dimension Door, and Water Walking, as well as Angel Wings. Let the Mountain Portal remain. There is simply a clause in the rules that requires mandatory breaking through the guards, which can be avoided with these spells and Angel Wings

CedricDor

19 years ago

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K0Lb@zzeR

19 years ago

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Kyle;107756

1. First, you need to install WoG for SoD; you can download it here.
Installation instructions for WoG are available here.

Is it mandatory to install it on SoD? And will WoG be installed on Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia ("Platinum Edition")?

P.S. I also have nothing against TE because I haven't played it and haven't heard anything about it. It seems like it will take me a long time to figure out what is what and how everything works.

Kamikaze

19 years ago

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If you install TE, that is, upgrade to TE, then it will be problematic to play with Breath later. You will have to reinstall it!

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K0Lb@zzeR

19 years ago

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Kamikaze;107839

If you install TE, that is, upgrade to TE, then it will be problematic to play Breath later. You will have to install it again!

It's not that problematic if you just copy the already installed game (SOD) to another folder, and then install TE on any copy of SOD. And then you will have both SOD and TE, and if you make another copy (after upgrading SOD to WOG), you will also have WOG :)

My question is different: will WOG be installed on the Platinum Edition (which has Heroes version 4.0), or do I need a clean Heroes SOD (version 3.2)???
Because it might turn out like this: you download WOG (40 MB), and it refuses to install. And it turns out that you just wasted 40 MB.

Quaker

19 years ago

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Is it mandatory to install it on SoD??? Will WOG install on the "Platinum" version of Heroes???

This question has come up before, and I've asked many people about it. If installed correctly, it will work.
I'll now quote a Heroes player who sent me the instructions:

1. Download all WoG files and run the self-extracting RAR archive.
2. WoG may function incorrectly in Windows if the system language is not English (Russian). This likely happens with the Swedish language. Therefore, we recommend that you:
- check "Control Panel" -> "Language and Regional Settings" in Windows; if the language is English or Russian, everything is fine;
- otherwise, change the language to English (Russian) and the country to Canada, UK, Russia, or USA in "Control Panel" -> "Language and Regional Settings".
3. Make sure you have removed all other MODs and Add-ons from all Heroes folders (especially the Data folder). We recommend that you:
- make a full backup of your Heroes (SoD or HC);
- uninstall Heroes (SoD or HC);
- manually delete all files in the Heroes folder;
- install Heroes (SoD or HC) again in the same folder.

The full path to the Heroes (SoD or HC) folder must contain only LATIN CHARACTERS
(example: "C:\Games\Heroes3" is okay, "C:\Игры\Heroes3" is not).

4. Now run install.exe in the WoG download package. Follow the further instructions. Be patient — installation can take time (up to half an hour)!
5. After installing WoG, if you changed the regional language/country settings, you can change them back.
6. You can run either WoG (H3WOG.EXE) or SoD / HC (HEROES3.EXE), whichever you had. Both versions should work.
7. In addition to the original SoD / HC, you receive the WoG Map Editor (H3WMAPED.EXE).
- The WoG Map Editor can load RoE, AB, SoD, or WoG maps and save them as RoE, AB, or WoG;
- The WoG Map Editor cannot generate random maps; use the SoD editor for this purpose, then load the map into the WoG editor;
8. In addition to your SoD / HC campaign editor, you receive the WoG campaign editor (H3WCMPED.EXE).
9. You get a new folder in the Windows menu: "New Life of Heroes". Look there for the full list of tools and documentation.
10. If you download additional WoG files after your initial WoG installation, you do not need to reinstall WoG. Place the newly downloaded files in the UPDATE folder within the Heroes directory and run H3WUPD.EXE. The program will automatically find all new files and allow you to install them.

If that doesn't work… :
• Rename the folder with the installed Heroes so that there are no non-Latin letters in the path to the Heroes folder, place hmm3.reg in this folder, and run it.
• Check if Heroes launch. If they work — install WOG. If not, install Platinum in a new folder C:\Games\Heroes3 and run hmm3.reg from there again.

Good luck!
nprf)

Download hmm3.reg

If you install TE, i.e., upgrade to TE, then it will be problematic to play Breath of Fire later. You'll have to reinstall again!

If you install them in different directories, each version of Heroes will launch separately. Personally, I installed them in the same location, simply duplicating the "data" folders. Whichever version I wanted to play, I copied that folder into the Heroes directory. But I believe there is a program that automatically moves the necessary folders and renames them (allowing you to launch any version of Heroes automatically). But it's better not to bother with that for now.
By the way, I ask the organizer to clarify regarding combined artifacts and the Grail. Also, if it's not too much trouble, explain how to make maps generate according to a specified template. Yesterday I tried creating maps with the randomizer. All sorts of templates are created, just not the one I need. Please provide more detail if possible: where are they defined, how to change them to the required one, etc.

Дубровин Павел

19 years ago

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Please add me to the list of participants for this tournament!
Nickname: Dubrovin Pavel;
ICQ: 364640730.

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TiShon

19 years ago

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pagan

19 years ago

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Quaker;107822

I also think that this should be specified in the rules. Games usually don't last longer than a month, but sometimes they drag on. And the Grail practically guarantees a 100% victory.
I wanted to ask another question about banned artifacts: aren't the Might of the Dragon Father, Cursed Armor, and Angel Wings banned?
And also, what about the Portal of the Mountains, the Door of Dimensions, Flight, and Water Walking?
I insist on banning Flight, the Door of Dimensions, and Water Walking, as well as Angel Wings. Let the Portal of the Mountains remain. There is a rule in the regulations that requires breaking through the guards, which can be avoided with these spells and Angel Wings.

What if the map is generated incorrectly, and the obelisk is in an inaccessible location or with very strong guards (say, when transitioning from the starting area to the 20-49 Titan spawn)? Or on the opponent's territory in a hard-to-reach place?

Water Walking is not relevant, as there is no water, and in general, you can say the same about any spell or artifact...

A question has arisen:
Should we include the TE options - no morale for neutrals and no improved stack?

P.S.: updating the list of participants

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Quaker

19 years ago

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c. Any displaced guard must be "defeated" (if two or three guards are scattered along the path, any one can be defeated). It is allowed to collect chests, campfires, and resources near the displaced guard. Everything else must not be collected or visited, including entering neighboring respawn areas.

And what if the map is generated incorrectly, and the obelisk is in an inaccessible location or with very strong guards (say, when transitioning from a respawn area to respawn area 20-49 with Titans), or on the enemy's territory in a hard-to-reach place?

Don't you think that your two quotes contradict each other somewhat?
Either you defeat them, or you don't have to. We need to decide and write it down in the regulations.
If you absolutely don't want to ban control spells, then let them remain, but then add: it is mandatory to defeat the guards of all outposts and the main guard.

Walking on water is not relevant, since there is no water, and in general, you can say the same about any spell/artifact...

And what am I talking about? ;) Why have an unnecessary, лишний, and useless "Walking on Water" slot in the guild if there is no water on the map? Instead, a more useful spell could appear.

Should we include the TE options - no morale for neutrals and no improved stack?

It definitely should. I think there isn't a single player who hasn't lost because of the untimely activation of neutral morale.
And the presence of an improved stack is not always pleasing. :)

turn duration 4 minutes

Why not make the turn time based on the "chess clock" principle? Set the same 4 minutes, but so that the remaining time is added to each subsequent turn?

we play with experience and tax

it would be good to indicate the amount of experience and tax. I understand that the default experience is 50%, and the tax is 2%. But it is better to document everything ;) (I learned this from personal experience).

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Kyle

19 years ago

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I apologize for the off-topic comment. :o
off-topic:

Quaker;108284

It would be good to specify the experience and tax rates. I understand that the default experience rate is 50%, and the tax rate is 2%. But it's better to document everything ;) (I learned this from personal experience).

Could you tell me what this experience and tax are?
or provide a link for me to read about it myself...
Thank you.
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