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CONTEST: "Best HeroesWorld map of 2007
for Heroes of Might and Magic 3"

КОНКУРС Лучшая карта для героев меча и магии 3 за 2007г на HeroesWorld[/CENTER]

This thread will be used to evaluate all maps created by esteemed mapmakers wishing to take part in the annual contest for the best map!


To participate in the contest, you must familiarize yourself with the rules below:

1. The map must be at least 72x72 (preferably with a Dungeon).
2.
The map can be made in any editor (except WOG)!!!
3.
The map must be created by you personally.
4.
The map must contain heroes with the nicknames of forum members.
5. Send the completed map to the email address VDV_forever@BK.RU, or post it in this thread


The participant must remember:


1. If a player claims a map that is not their own, they will be automatically excluded from the contest and punished.
2. Maps made in a map generator are not accepted!!!

Contest dates:


Maps will be accepted until November 20, 2007; the winner will be determined on November 30, 2007!
After receiving your map, you will see in the application table that:

the map has been received and is under review - indicated by a bold Nickname.
the map has been accepted - indicated by an italicized bold Nickname.


Prizes:

1. There will be only one winner.
2. A reward in the form of a Virtual prize in the profile and under the avatar.
3. A certificate of honor from www.heroesworld.ru (Sent by mail).



Map Evaluation.

Maps will be evaluated based on the following categories:


1. Map size, presence of a Dungeon. 72X72 - 10 points, 108x108 - 15 points, 144x144 - 20 points, Dungeon - 10 points.
2. Map density (i.e., absence of "empty space"). Max points - 20.
3. Number and, most importantly, quality of mini-quests. Max points - 10.
4. Beauty of the landscape and the world in general. Max points - 10.
5. Presence of balance (the map should be designed for high-level players). Max points - 10.
6. Thoughtfulness and strength of neutral monsters. Max points - 10.
7. Thoughtfulness and strength of the computer opponent. Max points - 10.


Judges:

VDV_forever, Kolb@zzer, Sage


1. After testing the map, each judge evaluates it on each of the 7 points and assigns points from a minimum of 1 point to the maximum (specified within each point).
2. Each judge is required to give an objective evaluation (summary) for every map. In this evaluation, judges must specify all pros and cons of the map and provide a conclusion.
3. The judge has the right:

- If there are errors that make the map impassable, deduct up to 20 points per error;
- If there are errors but the map is passable despite them, deduct up to 5 points per error;
- Deduct points for aspects not included in the above points if this is mentioned in the summary;
- Return the map to the tournament participant to fix errors and shortcomings.

An offline tournament called "Best of the Best - 2" will be held on our website for the "Best Homm3 Map", i.e., the map that takes first place in the contest!


PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPARTICIPANT NICK MapDate ModifiedRating
1AlexeyPank
2Алисия
3Kimmanuel Oblodra
4<))Dimitrius((>
5Dmitry_A_S
6SandroXXL14.09.07 (1)
7Ley
8Александр Г.К.26.09.07 (0)
9Ganymed31.08.07 (0)
10Entony
11Maximula31.08.07 (0)
12Vanechka14.09.07 (1)
13Fenix31.08.07 (0)
14Denminator17.10.07 (1)
15Joyce31.08.07 (0)
16lankwe17.10.07 (2)
17PrutkoFF14.09.07 (0)
18Vasko
19Windows Vienna
20Knight-voland23.10.07 (0)
21Max7146.11.07 (0)
22Драко20.11.07 (0)
23RAPER20.11.07 (0)
24Freeman11.11.07 (0)

For those whose map was made in WOG, it is suggested to convert it to SOD using a special program /attachments/5148/

Thread where you can ask questions about this program:

/topic/at/107043/


Good luck.

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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K0Lb@zzeR;107167
Let me share my opinion:
The contest is held for versions of the game and higher... and since WOG is an older version, such maps are not accepted.
I apologize for the off-topic, but in my opinion, it's the other way around!
SOD is HMM3 version 3.x (where x is from 0 to 2)
WOG is HMM3 version 3.5x (where x is from 0 to 9)
From this, it is clear that WOG is a later version of HMM3.

In essence: maps are not accepted for WOG because the winner's map will feature a tournament! And on our portal, tournaments are held on SOD.

Sincerely.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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F.E.N.I.X.;107054
After reading this entire ode to the Editors, I have a question:

What exactly was wrong with WOG? Perhaps it was the more extensive editor, which allows you to create your own objects. I would like to hear the "official" version.
Are there any alternatives to the native Heroes editors? Something that can transfer a map from WOG to SOD. :smile16:
Re: Best map for Heroes of Might and Magic 3 for 2007!
Note! not 3.5!!!
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Kyle;107168

Essentially: maps are not accepted on VOG, because a tournament will be held for the winner on the map! And on our portal, Tournaments are held on SoD.

Important note that I missed in my post.
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Good afternoon!
Ganymed;106650
The latest version of my contest map Heroes World with a description.

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K0Lb@zzeR;106757
Something doesn't quite add up... hmm.

In post #30, you, esteemed VDV_forever, said the opposite.
To the question:

You gave the answer:


P.S. I think that contestants should be allowed to submit multiple maps. And the more maps a contestant submits, the higher their chances of winning.

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Your description deserves praise. Your description can be used as an example for other participants in the competition.

:o What was meant was that the judge could review several maps from one participant, but only one, the best, is submitted to the competition!

P.S. And if one participant sends 100 maps? Believe me, Best of the Best 2 won't start then until at least two years later:) .

Each participant chooses the best map and submits it to the competition!
It is possible and even necessary to consult with judges and forum members!;)
K0Lb@zzeR;107045
This can be fixed by converting the map from WOG to SoD using the Maptool program, which esteemed Ataman shared. Many thanks to him for this.
The program can be found here.

I agree with K0Lb@zzeR.

Now, this program can be downloaded directly in this topic in the first post;) (a link to the topic where you can ask a question is also indicated in the first post).

Today, Maximula sent his map, congratulations to him!
Vanechka;106732


Replaced (Hopefully there will be no continuation of the discussion;

All unpleasant posts have been deleted, I hope there will be no further action.

P.S. Descriptions of maps are welcome, as Ganymed did!
Firstly, this will allow for a faster, more objective and reasonable assessment of the map,
secondly, it will raise fewer questions during evaluation,
thirdly, it will show that the map was indeed made thoughtfully and tested repeatedly,
and finally, fourthly, it's always nice to work with a complete set, so to speak!

P.S.S. Next year we may introduce a clause in the rules:
no more than 2 (3) maps can be submitted to the map competition!
*we will vote on this after the end of the competition*

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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:o What was meant in the video was that the judge can review several maps from one participant, but only one, the best one, can be submitted to the contest!
I didn't quite understand the meaning of these words. I need clarification. As I understand it, a participant can submit several maps to the contest. But I still don't understand the concept of "submitting to the contest."
VDV_forever;107240
P.S. And if 1 participant sends 100 maps? Believe me, Best of the Best 2 won't start for another 2 years, not sooner :).
If such an event does happen, then we can give that participant a big thank you, provided that all the maps are of his own creation.
VDV_forever;107240
Each participant chooses the best map and submits it to the contest!
You can and even should consult with the judges and forum members! ;)
I still don't understand the concept of "submitting to the contest."
VDV_forever;107240
Today, a map was sent by Maximula, and I congratulate him on that!
I join the words of VDV_forever.
VDV_forever;107240
Replaced (I hope there will be no continuation of the discussion;)).
If it's not difficult, when updating the map table, add the update date (for example, insert the update date before the map name). This will help avoid all sorts of errors when downloading.
VDV_forever;107240
P.S.S. Next year, we may introduce a clause in the rules:
no more than 2 maps (3 maps) can be submitted to the map contest.
Of course, we will discuss this.

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.
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Today, Maximula sent a map, and I congratulate him on that!

Thank you!

I will definitely write a description of my map! I just wasn't aware of the event.
VDV_forever;107240

P.S. Descriptions of maps are welcome, just like Ganymed did!
Firstly, this will allow for a faster, more objective, and reasonable assessment of the map,
secondly, it will raise fewer questions during the evaluation,
thirdly, it will show that the map was indeed carefully made and that it was tested repeatedly,
and finally, fourthly, it is always pleasant to work with a complete set, as they say!
Still, it would be worth mentioning this in the description of the contest itself.
So that fewer questions arise among the participants later.

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p.s. with respect, maximula.
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Despair is a sign of weakness.
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I didn't quite understand the meaning of these words. I need clarification. As I understand it, a participant can submit several maps to the contest. But I still don't understand the concept of "submitting a map to the contest."


A participant can consult with forum members and judges about the maps they have created, and can send several maps to the email address with a request to have them "quickly" evaluated. However, they can only submit one, the best map, to the contest, which will then be subjected to a more thorough analysis.

(any judge is capable of distinguishing a good map from a bad one)
K0Lb@zzeR;107395

If it's not too much trouble, when updating the map table, please add the update date (for example, insert the update date before the map name). This will help avoid various errors when downloading.

We'll have to add that;)
K0Lb@zzeR;107395

Of course, we'll discuss this.
certainly

Sincerely, VDV_forever
maximula;107405
It would still be worth clarifying this point in the contest description itself.
So that there are fewer questions from the contestants later.


We'll take that into account;)

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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2 VDV: Here's a question: in this thread, you write that the larger the map, the more points will be awarded for it + the Dungeon will also be evaluated additionally; so, don't you think that for the "best of the best" tournament – XL, for example (and if it also includes a Dungeon...), it's too much? In my opinion, such tournaments are held on SMALL maps, and therefore they should be evaluated according to this criterion. I would like to know your opinion. Sincerely.
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2 VDV:
Here's the question: in this thread, you write that the larger the map, the more points will be awarded for it + the Dungeon will also be evaluated additionally; so, don't you think that for the "best of the best" tournament - XL, for example (and if it also has a Dungeon...), it's too much? In my opinion, such tournaments are held on SMALL maps, and therefore they should be evaluated according to this criterion. I would like to know your opinion.

Sincerely.

Last time, the map was size L (and it had a Dungeon, if I remember correctly), and yet the turnout was quite good. ;)

Best of the Best is a tournament unlike all other tournaments, because:

1) it lasts for months (1.5 months)
2) it is held once a year on the best map on www.heroesworld.ru
3) as a rule, the map is played no more than 2 times (because it is large), and this always leads to different results, and accordingly, different tactics and strategies.
4) the tournament is always difficult
5) it contains surprises :D
6) there are prizes
7) it brings variety and novelty to already established tournaments

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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What will we see during the evaluation process? :confused:
I think it would be worth showing the scores for each map :smile07: ; this will, of course, reduce the suspense :smile34:, but it will also prevent the forum from becoming too heated :smile10:. By the way, I would like the judges to communicate on the forum about any problems :smile35: that arise with a particular map. This will help the authors understand the shortcomings that were not noticed and possibly correct them :smile33:.
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By the way, I would like the judges to communicate on the forum about any problems that arise with a particular map. This will help the authors understand the shortcomings they may have missed and possibly fix them.

I don't know about directly on the forum, but when questions arise and shortcomings are discovered, I personally contact the author in a private message to clarify these issues. So far, this has not caused any problems, and the maps are being updated.
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Last time, the map was size L (and included a Dungeon, if I remember correctly), and yet the participation rate was quite good. Best of the Best is a tournament unlike any other, because: 1) it lasts for months (1.5 months) 2) it takes place once a year on the best map on www.heroesworld.ru 3) as a rule, the map is played no more than 2 times (because it is large), which always leads to different results, and therefore different tactics and strategies. 4) the tournament is always challenging 5) it contains surprises :D 6) there are prizes 7) it brings variety and novelty to already established tournaments Sincerely, VDV_forever

Well, in short, it's clear ;), so "Best of the Best" is an important tournament for everyone, which means the map should also be large-scale, memorable, and most importantly, interesting, keeping the intrigue for everyone who participates directly :) - I personally don't mind, I just wanted to know. The question is: what does "contains surprises" mean? - you're really intriguing me :) P.S. by the way, I also create L-sized maps with a Dungeon...
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The question is: what does "contains surprises" mean? You're really intriguing me! :)
It's simple – to clear out a legion of dendroids with a single butterfly to exit the spawn point. :D And on the other side of the spawn point, there's also an exit. And there's another legion of dendroids there – you can clear it out with one sniper. Isn't that a surprise? There are battles for every taste! :)

P.s. I wonder, who is stronger, the butterfly or the sniper? The butterfly seems stronger... :D
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It’s elementary – a legion of dendroids can be defeated with a single butterfly to clear the spawn point. :D And on the other side of the spawn point, there’s also a way out. And there’s a legion of dendroids there too – you can take them out with one sniper. What’s not a surprise? There are battles for every taste!

You quoted it strangely :D, but okay, if that’s what you meant :D, although I doubt it – it’s better if VDV says what he meant, or at least hints at it, since a surprise should remain a surprise ;)

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It’s elementary – defeat a legion of dendroids with a single butterfly to clear the spawn point. :D And on the other side of the spawn point, there’s also a way out. And there’s a legion of dendroids there too – you can take them out with one sniper. What’s not a surprise? There are battles for every taste! :)

P.s. I wonder who is stronger, the butterfly or the sniper? The butterfly seems to be stronger... :D

Of course, the butterfly! And if it’s also evil, it will take down more than one :D
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...and make a legion of azure dragons consist of 1 Traglodyte :cool: ...

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