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What exactly do you mean? Be more specific. What does "got one, it has 600 or 800 health and high speed" mean – are you talking about a commander, a monster, or a hero?

VDV_forever gave me (and others) some helpful advice in one of his posts about hiring monsters in the Dungeon castle (in the portal) – that was also pretty good ;)

Sometimes it's very useful to know whether these monsters will join you or not. If they attack, there's a chance to increase the strength of your army and then recruit them. Without thieves, not only do the monsters not join, but you also lose your own troops.
Also, if monsters join for money, you might be short 100 gold. Without thieves, you would just attack them and kill them. But this way, you sell resources and gain a significant advantage in your army.

Sometimes it's very useful to know whether certain monsters will join you or not. If they attack, there's a chance to increase the strength of your army and then recruit them. Without thieves, not only do the monsters not join, but you also lose your own troops.
Also, if monsters join for gold, you might be short by 100 gold. Without thieves, you would simply attack them and kill them. But this way, you sell resources and gain a significant advantage in your army.

Not only in the early game, but also later on, to see the enemy castle's army and hero.

You've convinced me, it might pass in the first few days or weeks of the game. And then you'll have a stronger army and more money.

Best regards, Draco

I disagree. For example, the Black Dragon horde. You want to join them, but you might not have enough army strength for 3-4 months. And they will demand so much money that you definitely won't be able to collect it in the first few weeks.

How many units constitute an Horde? (It varies everywhere)
I've encountered this, of course, but I played without thieves, and about 30 units joined without any effort, just like that, and without (or with) diplomacy. However, it didn't always work when replaying.

I'll reiterate what many think - snipers are the most useful.

The advantage of neutral creatures, in my opinion, lies in their limited availability.

Best regards, Draco

An Horde is 50-99 units. The fact that 30 joined is just luck. But it's better to be cautious and check their attitude towards you from the start. For the chance to get 30 dragons, you can even bring some thieves along (if you don't have the See spell, of course).

For the chance to get 30 dragons, you can also bring thieves along (if, of course, you don't have the See spell).

Yes, it's just about having enough Thieves so that 50 Dragons join you. <- The point is: the strength of an army depends on the number of units in it, and Thieves are weak in combat. You can safely engage them with a starting army (provided that their number on the map is set by the computer, not by a person) at any difficulty level.

Sincerely, Draco

In my opinion, the chance is quite low... and most importantly, Thieves don't help with recruiting... but it's a hassle to figure out how many you need...
It's a different story if a secondary hero is running around with these Thieves and occasionally transfers them to the main hero. But that's also a lot of trouble...
I wonder how often people use this tactic? And how often do they "ignore" these Thieves?

It's a different story if a secondary hero with these thieves is following the main hero and occasionally transfers them to the main hero. But that also takes a lot of effort. I wonder how often people use this tactic? And how often do they "ignore" these thieves?

You don't need to have many thieves; you need to have a strong army in the other six squares. And you can get it by joining other, weaker monsters than 50 dragons.

At the beginning of the game, while the secondary hero moves at the same speed as the main hero, I use it. Then, either I leave the level 1 warriors in the Castle and take the thieves, or I learn Scouting somewhere and, of course, I remove the thieves from the army.
I "ignore" the thieves if there is no diplomacy. If there is, then only if there is a Scouting spell.

With an expert in diplomacy and a sufficiently strong army, thieves are not needed at all.

But still, the question is, how often do people use the Thief unit? And how often do they "ignore" it?

It's unclear which people you mean (those from the Castle or those we are talking about)?

Sincerely, Draco

Let me explain: there's a peasant on the map, and a lot of gold behind him. You attack him and keep hitting. The peasant has a speed of 6 or 8 and 600 or 800 health, I don't remember exactly. I don't know how to technically achieve this.

So, share the info:rolleyes:, don't be silent:)