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How many units constitute an Horde? (It varies everywhere) I've encountered this, of course, but I played without thieves, and about 30 units joined without any effort, just like that, and without (or with) diplomacy. However, it didn't always work when replaying.
I'll reiterate what many think - snipers are the most useful.
The advantage of neutral creatures, in my opinion, lies in their limited availability.
Best regards, Draco
An Horde consists of 50-99 units. The fact that 30 units joined is just luck. But it's better to be cautious and check their attitude towards you from the beginning. For the chance to get 30 dragons, you can even take thieves with you (if you don't have the See spell, of course).