Обсуждение: Kamikaze's Raiting — Rating systems.

Ley

8/5/2007 4:08 PM UTC

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Kamikaze, I don't understand something in your table. Explain what the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th columns mean – but don't talk about parts...

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

Kamikaze

8/5/2007 4:21 PM UTC

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Which table are you referring to?

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Ley

8/5/2007 4:38 PM UTC

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Kamikaze;105547

Which table are you referring to?

Yes, I'm a bit slow: in the table with the Heroes 3 ranking.

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

Svercha

8/5/2007 6:47 PM UTC

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I didn't understand that either, and what does the "Activity" column mean?

Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело.
Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:

BotINKi

8/5/2007 7:29 PM UTC

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Activity indicates the number of tournaments played for a specific version of Heroes within the current calendar year.
1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are the tournament numbers in order for that specific version of Heroes, also within the current year...
Please correct me if anything is wrong.

Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

Зло летает на крыльях, добро ползает как черепаха.

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Kamikaze

8/6/2007 5:53 AM UTC

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I didn't understand this either, and what does the "Activity" column mean...

The "Activity" column indicates the participant's activity level. That is, how many tournaments a person has participated in for this version, as Mr. Botinki correctly explained.

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IronAxe

8/6/2007 12:15 PM UTC

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Kamikaze;105601

The Activity column indicates the participant's activity. That is, how many Tournaments a person has played in this version, as Mr. Botinki correctly explained.

Let's assume we calculate the rating for Heroes 3, taking activity into account. There is a player who has played only one game and has become a leader, gaining 100 points, and Botinki hasn't played and doesn't plan to. Even Dmitry AS will hardly overtake him in this rating. If you are going to reset all ratings next year, it still won't be easier for Dmitry AS this year :) because, as a result, he loses in the final rating, and precisely because he was more active. Kamikaze, what do you have to say about this in your system?
In my opinion, simple summation better reflects activity. And if a player is very active, then he can certainly overtake Dmitry AS, if the latter plays only once for 100. But who will be to blame in this case - AS, for not playing actively. In your version, an active player has a higher chance of losing to an inactive player (who just got lucky once)

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Kamikaze

8/6/2007 12:42 PM UTC

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Let's assume we calculate the rating based on activity in Heroes 3. There's a player who played only one game and ended up in the top positions, earning 100 points, and he doesn't play and doesn't plan to. Even Dmitry AS will hardly surpass him in this rating. If you're going to reset all ratings next year, it still won't be easier for Dmitry AS this year :) because, in the end, he loses points in the final rating, precisely because he was more active. Kamikaze, can you say something about this in your system?
In my opinion, simple summation better reflects activity. And if a player is very active, he can certainly surpass Dmitry AS, if the latter plays only once and gets 100 points. But who will be to blame in this case - AS, for not playing actively? In your version, an active player has a higher chance of losing to an inactive player (who just got lucky once).

No, that's not the case. The Activity column is purely informational and only affects the average rating. The main rating is calculated by summation, of course. The last column is called Average

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IronAxe

8/6/2007 12:45 PM UTC

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No, that's not right. The Activity column is purely informational and only affects the average rating. The main rating is calculated by summing the values, of course. The last column is labeled Average.

Okay, that makes sense.

Ley

8/6/2007 5:01 PM UTC

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to Kamikaze:
as BotINKi wrote, I participated in the 4th and 5th tournaments. Is he right?
Isn't BLITZ the 4th tournament? And what does it mean if I only participated in these tournaments?

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Kamikaze

8/7/2007 9:18 AM UTC

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to Kamikaze:
as BotINKi wrote, I participated in the 4th and 5th tournaments. Is he right?
Isn't BLITZ the 4th tournament? And what does it mean if I only participated in these tournaments?

Yes, you participated in the fourth and fifth tournaments for Heroes 3. :)
Yes, Blitz was the fourth tournament for Heroes 3. :)
This means that you missed the first three tournaments. :(

Kamikaze

8/10/2007 6:24 AM UTC

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According to the VanKanigem ranking.
After the recalculation (from 3/7 to 1/1), the total rating sum decreased by 496.06 points, which is an average decrease of 10.33 points per participant. Mr. IronAxe (-38.77) is the leader in this decline and has also lost his leading position in the overall standings, yielding it to AlexR!
You can view the new table in the Kamikaze's Raiting thread.

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IronAxe

8/12/2007 1:33 PM UTC

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According to the VanKanigem ranking.
After the recalculation (from 3/7 to 1/1), the total rating decreased by 496.06 points, which is an average decrease of 10.33 points per participant. Mr. IronAxe (-38.77) is the leader in this decline, and he also lost his leading position in the overall standings, yielding it to AlexR!
You can view the new table in the Kamikaze's Raiting topic.

:D Well, if that's the case, then this system with this ratio is the most accurate :) But the fact that I was at least included in the list is a good thing :)