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Vikk, why are you sticking to your guns so stubbornly?

Everyone has told you that you are wrong, no one supports you. Why be stubborn?

There was a lot of specific information, and the arguments were varied, but you dismissed them with pictures, in your usual manner.

Why should I give in to direct blackmail? :smile32:

Lucky initially chose a very aggressive stance, not one that allows for a "friendly" conversation. If I back down, he'll just take advantage and won't let up. No, it's better if he just backs off, as if we're just sticking to our own opinions.

Well, why... I believe that I'm right in that there is a problem, and that it needs to be solved somehow.

Attempts to have a dialogue in the style of "Wicc, I think you're wrong" are doomed to fail. Either you need to clearly explain why I'm wrong, or come up with a solution that works for both sides.

Yes, I noticed that the dialogue quickly turned from a constructive discussion of the problem into a measuring contest. Perhaps I am partly to blame for this; I will reread it later and think about where and what I said wrong.

Well, why... I believe I'm right that there is a problem, and that it needs to be solved somehow.

no, you decided to dismiss it with a picture and say that I'm just oppositionally interfering in all your topics, comparing me to a cobra and an alfein :smile35:

Some outright lies have started. Here is my message, which is actually what caused the topic to be moved to the forum:

"This rule is simply unnecessary. The situation where both main heroes destroy each other is quite rare, and a real imbalance can occur when one player manages to eliminate the other's main hero faster with artifacts. But instead, you introduce a bunch of unnecessary obstacles to normal gameplay in all other situations. Why can't I try to find my leveled-up support hero, which the opponent ambushed? Or even the opponent's support hero, which I ambushed, if my well-prepared economy allows me to eliminate him with a higher probability (and heroes are largely a game of probability; you make many decisions based on probability – this is part of the skill)? How is this balanced??? Or the main hero on the rush was killed, and it's game over, and you have to rely only on support heroes, if you have them? Why should this mistake (or the opponent's luck in jumping to the rushing main hero in the dark) be fatal? Vic, seriously, stop pushing all your ideas, like a tank against everyone's will! Or do you want no one to play in your Tournaments because they understand?"

Do you think there is a lack of specifics here? Did you answer even one specific example from this message? No, you decided to get away with a picture and say that I am simply oppositionally interfering in all your topics, comparing me to a cobra and an alfein:smile35:

Attempts to engage in a dialogue using the approach of “Wicc, I believe you are wrong” are doomed from the start. It is necessary either to clearly explain why I am wrong or to come up with an option that satisfies both parties.

There is a problem, but the probability of it occurring is so rare that it can be ignored until a software solution is released. People are playing in the SoD and it's fine. Level up several heroes, share artifacts, what's the problem?! :D
The "new rule" you proposed would only complicate the game and cause headaches for players, especially against those who demand a time portal at the slightest provocation.

You've been explained almost everything. Are you ready to break the gameplay of EVERY game by forcing players to monitor the levels of heroes arriving in the tavern, playing on the verge of a time loss, just to somehow smooth out a situation that arises in 1 game out of 1000 (which may not even require it)? Doesn't it seem unreasonable? Moreover, you decided to do this on your own, even though there were no complaints or grievances from the participants.

Questions like:
- why can't I buy a support hero that I leveled up, but the opponent killed?
- what to do if there are leveled heroes in both slots? etc.

Also, the punishment for violation is somewhat vague. Like "well, I won't use a time portal here, just don't do anything extra," etc. I wrote an entire post about the good faith execution of the rules. Simply, the idea that "players are all reasonable, they should understand what is good and what is bad, they will figure out for themselves what is allowed and what is not" - doesn't work in modern realities.

Where is the lie? :rolleyes:

What you quoted is precisely the "aggressive stance that doesn't allow for a constructive conversation." What did you expect?

Sorry for interrupting the battle of the giants, but since there are so many people unhappy with Vik, why don't the "daddies" organize their own tournaments? Does it really take a lot of time?
I accidentally deleted it.

PS And you still haven't bothered to respond to the examples from my message about the "aggressive stance."

Why can't you dig up a dead support hero? Because the very idea of digging up dead heroes is an abuse of the Heroes' mechanics. On regular maps, it's not a big deal, but on a mirror map, it's a serious imbalance that shouldn't exist.

It takes quite a lot of time.